Die Bundesliga 2011 Summer Transfer Thread

chrissicross wrote:
Well, would be nice to see Hleb back in the Bundesliga, not in a Bayern shirt though...

Ah, looking for good strikers is shit, but you have the money and the CL, so you should find a good replacement for Super Mario, but keep your hands off Pizarro, please...

But we need to have a bitchy-striker replacement now that Mario is gone and Ljuboja is finally leaving as well. *pouts*

Spaß beiseite, I don't think we're remotely interested in Pizarro, so don't you fear. I just hope Heldt and Co don't think that some talented and up-and-coming 2. Liga striker will be enough.

PS: Kind of off topic, but Hild€ has a girlfriend?!

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

PS: Kind of off topic, but Hild€ has a girlfriend?!

As long as there aren't any clear and authoritative evidences of his "straight-ness" I am not going to believe that this is his girlfriend.




Cheers for the infos on Hilbert and C. Alberto btw

Metze's Haeschen wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

PS: Kind of off topic, but Hild€ has a girlfriend?!

As long as there aren't any clear and authoritative evidences of his "straight-ness" I am not going to believe that this is his girlfriend.




Cheers for the infos on Hilbert and C. Alberto btw

Back in the ancient times, when Hild€ was still playing for us, he also had a girlfriend named Christine. Who magically disappeared around the time Philipp Lahm joined the club. Coincidence or not, I'll leave that up to you. Anyway, lots of time passes and Hild€ stays single... Until some time last year, when he starts mentioning having a girlfriend in Valencia... Then he returns to the Bundesliga and gets back into the public eye and maybe (who knows) reactivates his old girlfriend... *speculates a little*

If you ask me, she's the perfect 'beard'-slash-successful business woman who doesn't care her boytoy swings at the very least both ways.

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Metze's Haeschen wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

PS: Kind of off topic, but Hild€ has a girlfriend?!

As long as there aren't any clear and authoritative evidences of his "straight-ness" I am not going to believe that this is his girlfriend.




Cheers for the infos on Hilbert and C. Alberto btw

Back in the ancient times, when Hild€ was still playing for us, he also had a girlfriend named Christine. Who magically disappeared around the time Philipp Lahm joined the club. Coincidence or not, I'll leave that up to you. Anyway, lots of time passes and Hild€ stays single... Until some time last year, when he starts mentioning having a girlfriend in Valencia... Then he returns to the Bundesliga and gets back into the public eye and maybe (who knows) reactivates his old girlfriend... *speculates a little*

If you ask me, she's the perfect 'beard'-slash-successful business woman who doesn't care her boytoy swings at the very least both ways.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he's only 'using' her to not appear gay in public, which is actually a quite sad state of affairs.

I really don't get why football players don't/can't stay true to their sexuality. Shouldn't be that big of a deal in the 21th century, no.

Tell that to the average stadium visitor...

But funnily enough, one of my fellow students (a Hannover 96 fan) brought up the whole 'gays in the Bundesliga' thing not too long ago and basically asked the same question.

Seems like a lot of money for Gomez, but German clubs aren't poor so that was always going to be the case

Stuttgart fans will surely expect a relatively high profile replacement(s)?

Not a good day for the Bundesliga really. It's such a shame to see Bayern hoover up their rivals best players again (particularly as it weakens one of your CL qualifying teams) and in a rather classless way of going about things. With Diego leaving as well, it leaves two good sides considerably weaker. If Wolfsburg lose their key players then it could be a case where more teams are rebuilding than able to improve on this season. I take it Toni will head back to Italy now? I can't see him and Gomez able to play together, and I can't see either of them settling for a place on the bench.

I just discovered these two hilarious videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2lTtAzmjMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWpuPxQP5gI&NR=1

Metze's Haeschen wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Metze's Haeschen wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

PS: Kind of off topic, but Hild€ has a girlfriend?!

As long as there aren't any clear and authoritative evidences of his "straight-ness" I am not going to believe that this is his girlfriend.




Cheers for the infos on Hilbert and C. Alberto btw

Back in the ancient times, when Hild€ was still playing for us, he also had a girlfriend named Christine. Who magically disappeared around the time Philipp Lahm joined the club. Coincidence or not, I'll leave that up to you. Anyway, lots of time passes and Hild€ stays single... Until some time last year, when he starts mentioning having a girlfriend in Valencia... Then he returns to the Bundesliga and gets back into the public eye and maybe (who knows) reactivates his old girlfriend... *speculates a little*

If you ask me, she's the perfect 'beard'-slash-successful business woman who doesn't care her boytoy swings at the very least both ways.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he's only 'using' her to not appear gay in public, which is actually a quite sad state of affairs.

I really don't get why football players don't/can't stay true to their sexuality. Shouldn't be that big of a deal in the 21th century, no.

Can't have gays in football, what if they don't want to tackle the opposition?

Six wrote:

Metze's Haeschen wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Metze's Haeschen wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

PS: Kind of off topic, but Hild€ has a girlfriend?!

As long as there aren't any clear and authoritative evidences of his "straight-ness" I am not going to believe that this is his girlfriend.




Cheers for the infos on Hilbert and C. Alberto btw

Back in the ancient times, when Hild€ was still playing for us, he also had a girlfriend named Christine. Who magically disappeared around the time Philipp Lahm joined the club. Coincidence or not, I'll leave that up to you. Anyway, lots of time passes and Hild€ stays single... Until some time last year, when he starts mentioning having a girlfriend in Valencia... Then he returns to the Bundesliga and gets back into the public eye and maybe (who knows) reactivates his old girlfriend... *speculates a little*

If you ask me, she's the perfect 'beard'-slash-successful business woman who doesn't care her boytoy swings at the very least both ways.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he's only 'using' her to not appear gay in public, which is actually a quite sad state of affairs.

I really don't get why football players don't/can't stay true to their sexuality. Shouldn't be that big of a deal in the 21th century, no.

Can't have gays in football, what if they don't want to tackle the opposition?

Well as a keeper he only has to grab the balls.

i think bayern would be happy when toni decides to leave, but no one will say that to him

Ah come on, it's not as if Cashley is the only gay footballer to have a trophy WAG.

Shame, I was hoping he might blaze a trail for the next generation of gay footballers...

(I see Hase has made the same point, more seriously )

Özil wrote:i think bayern would be happy when toni decides to leave, but no one will say that to him

Toni is the most obvious one to leave, but then again, he earns €10m (gross) p.a. in Munich and has two years left on his contract. How many teams would be interested in signing him, let alone can afford his wages?

Plus you want to win the CL, you need more strength in depth to achieve this, so it might be better to keep him for another season, especially since Olic and Gomez are very much unproven in the CL, and loan Müller instead.

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Re HSV and Jol

If it's true what the papers write today, then Mr Nice Guy Jol was not as nice as everyone thought, but instead a bit of a cnut, a major cnut in fact.

http://www.mopo.de/2009/20090527/sport/hsv/jol_laesst_hsv_im_stich.html

http://www.abendblatt.de/sport/fussball/HSV/article1029405/Der-fliehende-Hollaender.html

Abendblatt wrote:Aber nicht für alle. Ein aktueller HSV-Spieler beklagte sich: "Seine Mannschaftsbesprechungen waren zuletzt uninspiriert, es gab keine Zuordnung, keine Einteilung. Und im Training wurden keine Laufwege einstudiert, keine taktischen Züge mehr geprobt." Zudem sei das Vertrauensverhältnis zum Coach gestört gewesen, weil Jol offenbar jedem Spieler in Einzelgesprächen gesagt hat: "Du bist mein bester, mein wichtigster Mann." Der HSV-Spieler: "Und wenn wir uns dann unterhalten haben, stellten wir fest, dass jeder sein bester und wichtigster Spieler ist."

I could just imagine their faces.

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:I just discovered these two hilarious videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWpuPxQP5gI&NR=1

Scholl: Lass'n Sie mir mein Trinken! Ich brauch mein Triiinken!

Allez les rouges wrote:Ah come on, it's not as if Cashley is the only gay footballer to have a trophy WAG.

Cashley is gay?

Now, with that in mind, the picture gets a whole new dimension.

at some point somebody on here should translate some of the EVIDENCE AGAINST JOL

it turns out he wanted to TAKE OVER the club and have the sporting director sacked

Jol also demanded about 40 million EUro to spend when HSV were only prepared to make 15 million available

maybe crucially the TRAITOR was still raving about HSV in the media when he had already agreed to join Ajax

some of the players were already complaining that Jol seemed disinterested in giving tactical advice or motivating his players

certain "moves" were no longer trained towards the end of the season

BREATHTAKING stuff really

would explain the bizarre performances against Cologne and Frankfurt

this article

http://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/article3815195/Hamburger-SV-lehnt-Experiment-mit-Klinsmann-ab.html?page=1#article_readcomments

now says that Jol also recommended NOT TO BUY MARIN

the German supertalent

EXACTLY what I said previously

only worse

I said Marin should not join HSV because Jol did not even seem to like and play Trochowski and surely Marin would sour in his hands as well

turns out , Jol advised HSV AGAINST getting one of the greatest talents in European football who is available for about 8 million Euro



FUCKING SHIT

if all of this is true

@Jol

please

NEVER return to the Vaterland



I thought he had been an average manager this season

turns out, he was PISS-POOR

In fairness to Jol, you can understand why he might view Sporting Directors/Directors of Football with suspicion after his time at Spurs. And asking for more money isn't too surprising. €15m is unlikely to be enough to bring Hamburg up to the level needed for challenging at the top (particularly as increasing the number of top level players in the squad is just as vital in their case as improving the first XI). I'd be interested to see translations of some of the quotes though. I'm surprised he left, and there was clearly some bad feeling developing in the last couple of months.

I don't think him leaving is necessarily a bad thing for Hamburg. The man isn't a winner, although they could maybe have benefited from another year under him.

Also, does anyone think that the Magath/English approach will be adopted by more German clubs in the future, or will the separation of duties remain the status quo?

Sheffield gunner wrote:
I don't think him leaving is necessarily a bad thing for Hamburg. The man isn't a winner, although they could maybe have benefited from another year under him.

Also, does anyone think that the Magath/English approach will be adopted by more German clubs in the future, or will the separation of duties remain the status quo?

Jol seems to be able to win over the fans' affection easily

he did it at Spurs , he did it at HSV

but I agree

he was a flop at Spurs and he was a flop at HSV

some of his tactics and team-selections were breathtakingly inept

SZ now reports that one of the disagreements between the board and Jol was also over Axel's favourite player, the Troch

HSV wanted to make him THEIR FACE and build a team around him

Jol would have been happy to LET HIM GO

as for the Magath/English approach

it was A HUGE success at Wolfsburg under Magath

his successor, Veh, will enjoy the same powers: ie Wolfsburg will continue to keep the English model

at Schalke Magath will also be responsible for EVERYTHING

so that's the SECOND club: and I predict Magath will win the league within two to three years

at Frankfurt the manager is also responsible for the sporting and commercial side

we will see whether it spreads to other clubs, I think it might

one of the main reason against it though is that the position of sporting director usually provides a job for an OLD BOY

see Nerlinger/Hoeness at Bayern or soon Zorc at Hertha

but if Magath is successful at Schalke and Veh manages to keep Wolfsburg in the top 4, other will copy it

Jol knew the structure of the club and their tight financial situation before he joined them. If he wants to have more power then he should have gone somewhere else.

Also, he took over the job with the goal to built and develop a team, but for months he's moaning about a lack of proven superstar players and the need for bigger investments.

He also might have forgotten that the HSV was in huge financial trouble not too long ago and back then only retained their licence under conditions that didn't allow them to pile up new debt.

After such experiences, it's only reasonable that they wouldn't allow Jol to spend almost 3 times as much on transfers as previously planned, let alone hand him over the job of Beiersdorfer and lay so much power over the fate of the club into the hands of a single person, who above that failed to meet his own promise of integrating young players.

Over the past 5 years Beiersdorfer almost acquired a status of an untouchable in Hamburg after he and Hoffmann managed to get this club back on track financially. He's the one who lured the likes of VDV, Jansen, Trochowski, Petric and Olic to Hamburg. That Jol wanted him to be sacked is beyond ridiculous.

Good riddance to him.

"De Telegraaf" reports that Steve McClaren is being discussed to replace Jol at Hamburg.



If he joins them, then I hope he picks up a funny German accent. Would be hilarious.

Why don't they get Hrubesch? would be my pick.

Don't know about Hrubesch. He's doing a good job with our youngsters. I'd rather see him staying with the DFB.

The names mentioned in the press so far are:

Bruno Labbadia
Thomas Schaaf
Bernd Schuster
Mirko Slomka
Christian Gross

The latter sounds interesting, won tons of trophies with Basel and is currently available as well. Wouldn't be that bad of a choice maybe.

Looks like Nürnberg will be returning to the Bundesliga. They beat Cottbus 0-3 in the first leg of their relegation/promotion play-off and just need to avoid a heavy defeat at home.

Sheffield gunner wrote:Looks like Nürnberg will be returning to the Bundesliga. They beat Cottbus 0-3 in the first leg of their relegation/promotion play-off and just need to avoid a heavy defeat at home.

yes! great, i cant stand another saison with boring cottbus. Even if it's a bit sad, that there is no east-club left in the liga except berlin...

VDV is rumoured to join Werder for €8m.

I think it's not unlikely that he returns to Germany. He is guaranteed to get match practise ahead of the WC over here and his wifey can fulfil her dreams of becoming a TV star. €8m sounds unrealistic though.

Unrealistic because Werder can't afford him, or the price is too low?

Considering Madrid bought him for 12m or 13m, something low like that, it's a pretty understandable price.

kas wrote:Unrealistic because Werder can't afford him, or the price is too low?

Considering Madrid bought him for 12m or 13m, something low like that, it's a pretty understandable price.

Price too low.

VDV = Diego

So it they'd sell Diego for 30M, get VDV for 8M they'd have made an 22M profit, whilst getting a more motivated playmaker (Diego clearly wanted to leave and VDV needs to cement his place in Oranje)

It would turn me into an instant Werder fan though :

Well it's like saying "20m for Ronaldinho is too low". May be, but based on his performance levels in his last season and the circumstances at the club (manager/fans want him out), the price automatically drops.

But yeah, would be good business by Werder if they can get him going and he settles in quickly. A bit surprising that they'd go for ex-Hamburg, but maybe they're trying to do a Figo.

First of all I think it´s more than unlikely that vdV would come to Bremen, not even because we couldn't afford to buy him, but because I'm sure he has at least a dozen better offers.

Don't know about the price, it seems too low, but then again I have no idea what Real would really want for him. From what you can read they would be more than happy to get rid of him. The other day I talked to some Real fans and they said to me, we could have him for free.

The rumour itself isn´t that new. A few days/weeks ago when the main negotiations about Diego were coming to an end, a local Bremen news portal reported Werder would think about signing vdV. Then it was quiet for some time until yesterday Sport1 reported vdV was seen in Bremen. And then today a local Bremen newpaper reported about this rumour and "Hamburger Abendblatt" even reported Bremen were close to sign vdV for a transfer fee of 8m Euro. How they come to this story or this low transfer fee I don´t know.

Anyway, even after selling Diego it seems Werder won´t pay 10m Euro or more for one player, maybe ~9.5m, but not more. So at least in this regard a transfer fee of 8m isn´t unrealistic...

Having said all this vdV would be awesome, especially considering we would get Sylvie as well.

Bremen signed Bolivian striker Marcelo Moreno Martins from Shakhtar Donetsk on loan with a buy-out option for an additional four years.

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/0905/News/werder-holt-moreno-an-die-weser.html

Let's hope he's better than die Graupe Rosenberg.

you , chrissi and metze, are really as German as Leberwurst

only a few days ago chrissi would dream of Werder signing MARIN

now there are rumours that Werder are chasing VDV, the OVERRATED Dutchie, who could not cut it at Real, who has NEVER done anything for Oranje and who was EASILY replaced at HSV

and chrissi is creaming himself yet again

@chrissi

IF Werder signed VDV, there would be no point in signing German international MARIN, since you already have Özil

but as always, you TRAITOR would prefer ANY half-decent foreigner to a good German

dreaming of selling Klose to get Huntelaar was one of your best bits of treason

meanwhile, häschen produces a list of Jol replacements at HSV and gets particularly excited about the only FOREIGNER on the list

GROSS

rather than the FAR SEXIER GERMAN

Spanish Champ SCHUSTER



I thought the young German generation would become more patriotic than the old one

but I was wrong