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Or you are a liar with your made up £25m that maybe could have been spent possibly in a summer that was perhaps the year before we signed him.
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Football Genius wrote:Jaime wrote:How much did you lot pay for Torres? I'm trying to remember...
£20m odd.
Was a bargain in reality.
Don't forget the exchange rates were different back then...
£20m back then equals 30m now
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what a silly argument
It wouldn't suprise me if the truth was closer to £20m + Luis Garcia.
Whatever it was, it was lovely.
It wouldn't suprise me if the truth was closer to £20m + Luis Garcia.
Whatever it was, it was lovely.
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i have noticed liverpool fans like to lower the fees they actually paid for players and up man utd players transfer fees.
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You are just annoyed you sold Ronaldo for £8m
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Glenn Glenson wrote:what a silly argument
it was 36M euros, so I think I'm almost spot on
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Batman wrote:
Rafa would quote Torres fee lower than the actual fee, because he is always complaining Liverpool have no money to spend.
Man Utd were after Torres the summer before and if the deal had gone through then it would have been around £25m and not £20m that Liverpool fans think they got him for.
Atletico Madrid Liverpool 4 Jul 2007 £ 26,500,000
http://www.skysports.com/football/player/0,19754,11669_250968,00.html
Liverpool shattered their transfer record to sign Fernando Torres and unveiled the £26.5million forward in July 2007.
http://www.4thegame.com/club/liverpool-fc/player-profile/38679/fernandotorres.html
The Reds have agreed a deal in principle with Atletico Madrid just short of the £27m get-out clause stipulated in Torres’ contract, and hope to convince the player to accept personal terms early next week.
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liverpoolfc/0100news/tm_headline=fernando-torres-nears--26m-liverpool-switch&method=full&objectid=19379506&siteid=50061-name_page.html
Rafa or the liverpool fans on here are liars!
I think Rafa knows a little bit more about the deal that nobody in the press knows the actual amount of Batman
I am prepared to believe Rafa. You can believe the hacks. Don't make me repeat it a third time
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Quite frankly we could have paid £40m for him, wouldn't make any difference, hes is still the best striker in the world
The fact he made is clear he had no desire to go to the mancs just makes the transfer all that bit more sweet.
Roll on No19..
The fact he made is clear he had no desire to go to the mancs just makes the transfer all that bit more sweet.
Roll on No19..
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Football Genius wrote:hes is still the best striker in the world
Steady on now, Villa scores far more than him.
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Rosicky wrote:Football Genius wrote:hes is still the best striker in the world
Steady on now, Villa scores far more than him.
You've one opinion i've another, calling Torres the best striker in the world is hardly laughable chinston.
I'd swop him for no other striker
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Football Genius wrote:Rosicky wrote:Football Genius wrote:hes is still the best striker in the world
Steady on now, Villa scores far more than him.
You've one opinion i've another, calling Torres the best striker in the world is hardly laughable chinston.
I'd swop him for no other striker
Hardly opinion, its a FACT that Villa scores more, and i think he even assisted more last season.
Playing for a worse team as well
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Torres is widely regarded as the best striker in the world, that is a FACT
whether he is or not is up for debate, it's certainly not worthy of a double lol though
whether he is or not is up for debate, it's certainly not worthy of a double lol though
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Don't bite your chin off to spite your face Rosicky now...
How many games did Torres play in last season? fancy checking his goals per game ratio Chinston? thought not... that would mean you actually analysing this objectively, now that really would be a step too far!!
You'd chew through your face to have Torres at the Emirates, and if you say you wouldn't your more full of shit than a muck spreader.
You don't rate Torres? fine, don't really care to be honest! We'll just keep him then huh? sounds good to me... you can keep RV(broken)P and Adeba(i deserve more money)yor, Theo(pace merchant) Walcott etc...
Hell i'd have Kuyt over all of them Good luck battling for that 4th spot next season 
How many games did Torres play in last season? fancy checking his goals per game ratio Chinston? thought not... that would mean you actually analysing this objectively, now that really would be a step too far!!
You'd chew through your face to have Torres at the Emirates, and if you say you wouldn't your more full of shit than a muck spreader.
You don't rate Torres? fine, don't really care to be honest! We'll just keep him then huh? sounds good to me... you can keep RV(broken)P and Adeba(i deserve more money)yor, Theo(pace merchant) Walcott etc...
Hell i'd have Kuyt over all of them
Good luck battling for that 4th spot next season 
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I doubt many would have Villa over Torres to be honest. I certainly wouldn't.
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Football Genius wrote:Don't bite your chin off to spite your face Rosicky now...
How many games did Torres play in last season? fancy checking his goals per game ratio Chinston? thought not... that would mean you actually analysing this objectively, now that really would be a step too far!!
sure:
last season league goals
Villa 33 games = 28 goals
Torres 24 games = 11 goals
International record is interesting as well, has to be a fair comparison as they both play for Spain.
Villa 30 goals in 46 games
Torres 22 goals in 64 games
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Luis wrote:I doubt many would have Villa over Torres to be honest. I certainly wouldn't.
Well this is all getting rather ridiculous
There are plenty who would have villa over torres Luis
Many Spanish fans for a start
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Torres has scored 50 goals in 84 games for us Chin
We are quite content with his scoring rate thanks
We are quite content with his scoring rate thanks
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Conspiracy Theorist wrote:Torres has scored 50 goals in 84 games for us Chin
We are quite content with his scoring rate thanks
In the last 2 seasons villa has scored 51 in 81 games
Im not saying his record is bad, just that Villa's is better, that was all that my point was
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backtrack!
double lol
double lol
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Rosicky wrote:Conspiracy Theorist wrote:Torres has scored 50 goals in 84 games for us Chin
We are quite content with his scoring rate thanks
In the last 2 seasons villa has scored 51 in 81 games
Im not saying his record is bad, just that Villa's is better, that was all that my point was
All we have to do now is put a little calculation in to reflect the abomination that are Spanish defences and we'll get a fair reflection
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TORRES IS BETTER THAN RONALDO. END OF STORY.
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Luis wrote:TORRES IS BETTER THAN RONALDO. END OF STORY.
So in Gerrard and Torres you have the two best players in the world, yet you still won fuck all....
I'd be screaming for Rafa's head if I were you
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Axeslammer wrote:Luis wrote:TORRES IS BETTER THAN RONALDO. END OF STORY.
So in Gerrard and Torres you have the two best players in the world, yet you still won fuck all....
I'd be screaming for Rafa's head if I were you
Come on Axe
You know better than that
What's that old Manchester saying you have been teaching us all season
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Conspiracy Theorist wrote:
What's that old Manchester saying you have been teaching us all season
That's for when I'm WUMming the Man U fans, doesn't work for the Liverpool fans
As usual the best WUMing needs to be based in truth....it doesn't have to be *all* true though...
(I do indeed think that Rafa should have done better with this material and I do think Man U has gotten some help from the refs)
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So you suggest we should be glory hunters then?
We actually support our club Axe thanks, we see progress and are happy with how the team is performing.
We'll keep Benitez thanks, not even 50 yet and is recognised as one of the best managers in the world, plenty of time for trophies
We actually support our club Axe thanks, we see progress and are happy with how the team is performing.
We'll keep Benitez thanks, not even 50 yet and is recognised as one of the best managers in the world, plenty of time for trophies
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Football Genius wrote:So you suggest we should be glory hunters then?
I don't follow how you come to that conclusion from my posts....was certainly not what I meant
Football Genius wrote:
We actually support our club Axe thanks, we see progress and are happy with how the team is performing.
I have absolutely no problem with that, yet the incredible underrating of Kuijt (by more than 50% of the Liverpool fans) is pissing me off no end.
My only point was that you can't have it both ways : you can't claim that Benitez is one of the best managers in the world, that Torres is the best striker in the world and Stevie G the best midfielder in the world....*and* getting nowhere near winning anything at the same time (no : you were never real contenders for the title).
Football Genius wrote:
We'll keep Benitez thanks, not even 50 yet and is recognised as one of the best managers in the world, plenty of time for trophies
He needs a new assistant who knows how to win in the league, but I wouldn't trade him either.
....I also wouldn't be claiming Torres is the best striker in the world, that Steven G is....well you know the drill
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Well the reason perhaps may have something to do with the fact Stevie G and Fernando played only a handful of games together last season, due to injuries. So our two world class players rarely ever featured together.
Our NEW assistant manager Sammy Lee IMO, is one of the reasons we actually mounted some kind of title challenge last season, he brings the old school of Liverpools roots into this new style Liverpool set up, whilst Benitez keeps players at arms length, Sammy is the god cop in this regime. Seems to have worked very well.
We'll be there or there abouts next season, because we missed SG and FT last season we are looking to address this with an attacking purchase - so next season we can't use this an excuse, and if executed well and the right calibre of player comes in, i doubt we'll need excuses.
Liverpool are very much the team in momentum in the EPL at the moment, we've not peaked yet... you better believe it
Our NEW assistant manager Sammy Lee IMO, is one of the reasons we actually mounted some kind of title challenge last season, he brings the old school of Liverpools roots into this new style Liverpool set up, whilst Benitez keeps players at arms length, Sammy is the god cop in this regime. Seems to have worked very well.
We'll be there or there abouts next season, because we missed SG and FT last season we are looking to address this with an attacking purchase - so next season we can't use this an excuse, and if executed well and the right calibre of player comes in, i doubt we'll need excuses.
Liverpool are very much the team in momentum in the EPL at the moment, we've not peaked yet... you better believe it
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Reports in Spanish papers today that Madrid have bid 35m euros (30m pounds) for Mascherano.
Assuming this is true, what will Benitez do? 30m is a lot of money...would you guys accept it? And would you take any Madrid players in exchange? VDV or Sneijder?
Assuming this is true, what will Benitez do? 30m is a lot of money...would you guys accept it? And would you take any Madrid players in exchange? VDV or Sneijder?
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He will accept and buy Baines for 16 mill
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