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    Owen for United?

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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:43 pm

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    Post by Six Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:43 pm

    But that is Villa's job! So obviously he is going to do that. How do you know Torres isn't being specifically told to stay in the middle and occupy the central defenders? For Liverpool he certainly is, Rafa doesn't particularly want him to roam and get involved, he wants him in the area to get on the end of things. He is a striker, he is supposed to be direct and score goals, he doesn't need to be Totti. No one has ever claimed that he is anything like capable of that style of play. Nor does he have to be, it's not his job.

    Simple through balls? Whats your point? Yes he is fast, yes he has the movement and timing to beat offside traps. He still scores most of his goals in other ways. Look at all 50 of them to see.
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:50 pm

    Is correct six!

    Benitez's first words to Torres were something along the lines of;

    "i want you to be in the area to score goals, not the wings, as that is why we have wingers"
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    Post by Bashmachkin Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:51 pm

    Yes, I've seen people comparing Owen to Sheringham and Larsson, and his signing is in a similar vein, and he is a similar sort of player to those two nowadays - but I can't see Ferguson using him in a withdrawn role; I think, in Berbatov and Rooney, Ferguson already has two players who can play a withdrawn role better than Owen can; and I think Owen will add little to Man Utd as a striker.

    I think, if they'd signed Tevez, or even if they'd signed Benzema, then Man Utd might have looked to play a 4-3-3 this season - with, for instance, Rooney and Tevez either side of Berbatov, with Anderson and Valencia either side of Carrick in the midfield, and with Evra and Rafael providing the team's width. I can't see them using Owen in a 4-3-3 formation. I think that would work only if Ferguson followed Keegan's tactic, and used Owen behind Berbatov, with Berbatov holding the ball and feeding Rooney up top. However, that is unconventional and I don't think it would get the best out of Rooney; otherwise, I think Berbatov and Owen will prove a slovenly strike partnership even with Rooney roaming behind them; and regardless, I think Ferguson will use Owen as his first back-up striker - I don't think he's signing him for Man Utd's first eleven.

    So, if Man Utd are to play a 4-4-2 with Rooney and Berbatov the first choice strikers, who will they look to buy to enhance their first eleven? The obvious solution is that they spend on a goalscoring or else on a very creative attacking midfielder - on someone for the left wing and perhaps also on a central midfielder; or else they could possibly buy someone to play behind Rooney and Berbatov. In either case, I'm not sure it leaves space in the squad for all of Nani, Tosic and Park - but Man Utd won't look particularly strong if they sign Owen and don't significantly strengthen elsewhere.
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:56 pm

    I doubt very much that Owen would be their only signing this summer Basch.

    They've got £115m to spend yet...
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    Post by L r dd Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:55 pm

    Still cant believe this nonsense. He didn't make the Newcastle team ffs.
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    Post by TM Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:33 pm

    So Owen is on £50k a week? Chinteresting!
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    Post by Bashmachkin Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:46 pm

    Yes, certainly, FG - I'm sure Man Utd will spend some money this summer - I'm interested in where they will spend it - I'm sure that Ferguson has a plan for next season, but it is difficult at this stage to see what that plan is. Will they buy another forward after signing Owen? (my inclination is that they won't, but I don't think it is impossible); if they don't buy another forward, does that mean they will play with a 4-4-2 next season, and will they therefore look to strengthen their left flank despite already possessing Nani and Tosic?; if they rely on those players and strengthen elsewhere, in the centre of midfield and in defence, do people think they'll have enough in the attacking third?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:47 pm

    Owen's earning £5.73 an hour but with performance based bonus payments which take his salery up to £115,000 a week
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    Post by COTR Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:56 pm

    Radio 5 live have annouced Owen has signed a 2 year deal
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    Post by COTR Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:57 pm

    lol!


    And it's now on United's official site
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    Post by COTR Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:57 pm

    Manchester United is delighted to announce that it has signed Michael Owen on a two year contract. The striker was out of contract, so no transfer fee is involved.

    Sir Alex Ferguson said: "Michael is a world class forward with a proven goalscoring record at the highest level and that has never been in question. Coming to Manchester United with the expectations that we have is something that Michael will relish”

    Michael Owen said: "I had just begun to talk to other Clubs when out of the blue Sir Alex phoned me on Wednesday afternoon, invited me to have breakfast with him next morning during which he told me that he wanted to sign me. I agreed without a moment's thought.

    This is a fantastic opportunity for me and I intend to seize it with both hands.

    I am now looking forward to being a Manchester United player and I am fortunate that I already know so many of the players here. I missed pre season last year and am pleased that I will be starting at Carrington from day one.

    I want to thank Sir Alex for the faith he has shown in me and I give him my assurance that I will repay him with my goals and performances”
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    Post by L r dd Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:01 pm

    You're a nice guy Michael. But this is doomed from the start. Capello had the right idea. I hope he is the third choice and less used than Tevez was then i can just about stomach this nonsense.
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    Post by COTR Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:04 pm

    L-r d wrote:You're a nice guy Michael. But this is doomed from the start. Capello had the right idea. I hope he is the third choice and less used than Tevez was then i can just about stomach this nonsense.

    At this moment it is an excellent summer to be a Liverpool fan. Let's hope things don't change much in the coming weeks


    Owen in a Man United shirt will be a very very strange sight
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    Post by DS Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:07 pm

    I just cant see how this will be a good buy, sorry Michael but I am writing you off.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:09 pm

    Cant believe this has happened. What a mad signing.
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    Post by Six Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:10 pm

    I'm going to make a brochure and send it off to Fergie, could do with some easy money.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:15 pm

    How will Liverpool fans feel seeing one of their legends playing for Man United??
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    Post by COTR Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:16 pm

    borocooper wrote:How will Liverpool fans feel seeing one of their legends playing for Man United??

    If he plays well for them I won't be pleased at all

    As it is he was so desperate it was something no ex Liverpool player would have turned down in similar circumstances. It must be a tricky decision for a player to choose between Hull, Stoke and United
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:18 pm

    borocooper wrote:How will Liverpool fans feel seeing one of their legends playing for Man United??

    Legend?

    Kenny Dalglish has just re-joined the club, we're all very happy.

    Michael Owen is not a Liverpool man, that much is clear by this transfer. I wish him all the best.
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    Post by TM Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:19 pm

    Apparently Owen has demanded the No.10 shirt, and Ferguson will speak to Wayne Rooney tommorow.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:22 pm

    TM wrote:Apparently Owen has demanded the No.10 shirt, and Ferguson will speak to Wayne Rooney tommorow.

    i know what id say if i was rooney..'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh not a fecking chance!'
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:24 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    borocooper wrote:How will Liverpool fans feel seeing one of their legends playing for Man United??

    Legend?

    Kenny Dalglish has just re-joined the club, we're all very happy.

    Michael Owen is not a Liverpool man, that much is clear by this transfer. I wish him all the best.

    Well..he's obviously a legend.

    I've seen debates on here with who pool fans regard as legends and I would be amazed if Michael "14th player to have shook the Kop" Owen is not considered to be one of them.
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    Post by TM Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:25 pm

    You can't blame Owen, it was either Utd (CL football) or Hull.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:25 pm

    Owen said United's interest in him came as a surprise, adding: "I had just begun to talk to other clubs when out of the blue Sir Alex phoned me on Wednesday afternoon, invited me to have breakfast with him next morning during which he told me that he wanted to sign me over a few drinks."
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:27 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    TM wrote:Apparently Owen has demanded the No.10 shirt, and Ferguson will speak to Wayne Rooney tommorow.

    i know what id say if i was rooney..'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh not a fecking chance!'

    they'll move Rooney's shirt number so all the kids have to buy a new shirt. They used to rotate Ferdinand's number from 5 to 6 every year until West Brown took 6 IIRC
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    Post by DS Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:33 pm

    Michael Owen has sealed his shock move to Manchester United.
    The former Liverpool, Real Madrid and England striker completed
    a series of stringent medical tests this evening and has signed a
    two-year deal with the Barclays Premier League champions.
    Owen, 29, had earlier spent the day at United's Carrington
    training complex as the terms of his free transfer were thrashed out,
    after he lapsed out of contract with Newcastle at the end of last
    month.
    Speaking on the club's website, Sir Alex Ferguson said:
    "Michael is a world class forward with a proven goalscoring record at
    the highest level and that has never been in question. Coming to
    Manchester United with the expectations that we have is something that
    Michael will relish."
    Owen himself admitted that the move had come 'out of the blue.
    "I had just begun to talk to other clubs when out of the blue Sir Alex
    phoned me on Wednesday afternoon, invited me to have breakfast with him
    the next morning during which he told me that he wanted to sign me. I
    agreed without a moment's thought," he said.
    "This is a fantastic opportunity for me and I intend to seize it with both hands.
    "I am now looking forward to being a Manchester United player
    and I am fortunate that I already know so many of the players here. I
    missed pre-season last year and am pleased that I will be starting at
    Carrington from day one. "I want to thank Sir Alex for the faith he has shown in me and I
    give him my assurance that I will repay him with my goals and
    performances"
    Owen had undergone a medical examination yesterday to
    assess the troublesome knee which had sidelined him for much of his
    stay at St James' Park.Despite his previous injury problems the
    deal represents little risk to Red Devils boss Sir Alex Ferguson, who
    has been a long-time admirer of the 29-year-old."Michael is a
    world class forward with a proven goalscoring record at the highest
    level and that has never been in question," said the United boss."Coming to Manchester United with the expectations that we have is something that Michael will relish."It is believed Ferguson has struck a pay-as-you-play deal which will involve a basic weekly wage enhanced by bonuses.The
    player has taken a significant pay cut from the £110,000 he was
    reported to be on at Newcastle, for whom he scored 10 goals as they
    were relegated to the Coca-Cola Championship last season.But it
    is the lure of playing for the champions, with the promise of Champions
    League football again, which excites Owen now as he tries to force his
    way back into the reckoning with England coach Fabio Capello.Owen admitted United's approach came as much as a shock to him as it did the rest of football."I
    had just begun to talk to other clubs when out of the blue Sir Alex
    phoned me on Wednesday afternoon, invited me to have breakfast with him
    next morning during which he told me that he wanted to sign me," he
    said."I agreed without a moment's thought. This is a fantastic opportunity for me and I intend to seize it with both hands."I
    am now looking forward to being a Manchester United player and I am
    fortunate that I already know so many of the players here."I missed pre-season last year and am pleased that I will be starting at Carrington from day one."I
    want to thank Sir Alex for the faith he has shown in me and I give him
    my assurance that I will repay him with my goals and performances."
    http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5414038,00.html
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    Post by Dick Grayson Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:35 pm

    Karim Glennzema wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:
    TM wrote:Apparently Owen has demanded the No.10 shirt, and Ferguson will speak to Wayne Rooney tommorow.

    i know what id say if i was rooney..'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh not a fecking chance!'

    they'll move Rooney's shirt number so all the kids have to buy a new shirt. They used to rotate Ferdinand's number from 5 to 6 every year until West Brown took 6 IIRC
    lol! lol! lol! lol! (That was funny Glenny!)


    My former club is now a laughing stock!!!! Doh
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    Post by Puro Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:38 pm

    TM wrote:Apparently Owen has demanded the No.10 shirt, and Ferguson will speak to Wayne Rooney tommorow.

    If this is true, it may all end up in tears for everyone involved. Sure them Mancs and Owen NEED each other for everyone was rejecting the Mancs and no one wanted to take the risk of signing Owen.

    Secondly, Ferguson's delivering a HUGE MESSAGE to Rooney with this signing "I don't trust you can score goals", and he signs arguably the biggest waster of goals in the world. lol!

    OH FFS!

    My gosh! sincerely, I am shocked Shocked to what has become of them Mancs! Shocked <Ale>
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    Post by Sgoater1 Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:39 pm

    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Karim Glennzema wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:
    TM wrote:Apparently Owen has demanded the No.10 shirt, and Ferguson will speak to Wayne Rooney tommorow.

    i know what id say if i was rooney..'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh not a fecking chance!'

    they'll move Rooney's shirt number so all the kids have to buy a new shirt. They used to rotate Ferdinand's number from 5 to 6 every year until West Brown took 6 IIRC
    lol! lol! lol! lol! (That was funny Glenny!)


    My former club is now a laughing stock!!!! Doh

    Who do you support now ? lol!

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