If Owen can't motivate himself there, in the season before his last chance to go to a world cup, he is most definitely finished!
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Owen for United?
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Owen for United?
It's a pretty low risk transfer for Utd. He'll be on big wages, but no transfer fee. They're not going to be relying on him, just another option and if he starts scoring goals, they could have themselves a bargain.
If Owen can't motivate himself there, in the season before his last chance to go to a world cup, he is most definitely finished!
If Owen can't motivate himself there, in the season before his last chance to go to a world cup, he is most definitely finished!
TM- Number of posts : 21218
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Re: Owen for United?
Fergie is better off going for Huntelaar
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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Re: Owen for United?
Conspiracy Theorist wrote:L-r d wrote:Fergie is worrying me here. Owen was NEVER good enough for Man Utd. Now he was good enough for Hull and Stoke what is he doing...
Maybe he doesn't have £115m after all Lrd
Fergie has just sold all of your goals. He might take a punt on Owen alongside another £30m signing just to fill Ronaldo's quota
Even if he had just 30 mill Owen would not be the choice. He is not good enough he isnt very good the injuries are almost irrevelent. At his best he is not Man Utd class. What do we expect from him? he's a midget as well. The signing makes no sense from top to finish.
Deluded F*ck™- Number of posts : 21765
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Re: Owen for United?
MWAHAHAHAHA
That is all
That is all
Deano- Number of posts : 22042
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Re: Owen for United?
Don't see why it's that poor of a signing...no transfer fee, will still score goals etc...
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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there is another explanation
http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/
http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Owen for United?
L-r d wrote:Conspiracy Theorist wrote:L-r d wrote:Fergie is worrying me here. Owen was NEVER good enough for Man Utd. Now he was good enough for Hull and Stoke what is he doing...
Maybe he doesn't have £115m after all Lrd
Fergie has just sold all of your goals. He might take a punt on Owen alongside another £30m signing just to fill Ronaldo's quota
Even if he had just 30 mill Owen would not be the choice. He is not good enough he isnt very good the injuries are almost irrevelent. At his best he is not Man Utd class. What do we expect from him? he's a midget as well. The signing makes no sense from top to finish.
Neither Rooney or Berbatov play near enough the box. Owen will (or at least used to) hang off the last defender and play in that area. He might've lost his pace and enthusiasm and have an awful injury record, but he can probably still score goals. And goals are always useful
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Re: Owen for United?
You wonder which word was decisive for Fergie to get him!
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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Re: Owen for United?
debaser wrote:L-r d wrote:Conspiracy Theorist wrote:L-r d wrote:Fergie is worrying me here. Owen was NEVER good enough for Man Utd. Now he was good enough for Hull and Stoke what is he doing...
Maybe he doesn't have £115m after all Lrd
Fergie has just sold all of your goals. He might take a punt on Owen alongside another £30m signing just to fill Ronaldo's quota
Even if he had just 30 mill Owen would not be the choice. He is not good enough he isnt very good the injuries are almost irrevelent. At his best he is not Man Utd class. What do we expect from him? he's a midget as well. The signing makes no sense from top to finish.
Neither Rooney or Berbatov play near enough the box. Owen will (or at least used to) hang off the last defender and play in that area. He might've lost his pace and enthusiasm and have an awful injury record, but he can probably still score goals. And goals are always useful
Yeah i am sure he can walk around doing fuck all and net a few goals. But he is like a smaller less relient less effiecient van nistelrooy. and van nistelrooy never worked out as it is. The thing is if he plays then Rooney has to play wide. And he doesn't want to do that. So either Fergie should find a way to work it out or admit he fucked up on buying Berbatov and flog him. But sign Owen...
Batman- Number of posts : 9071
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Re: Owen for United?
i have heard he will be on less wages than he was at newcastle.
Owen is already loaded, this is a chance for him
to win the league
get in the england squad for the world cup
Owen has lost his pace and is injury prone but he is probably still a better finisher in the box than Rooney and Berbatov.
he would be useful at home against teams that park the bus.
I would be happy with:
Rooney + Berbatov
Owen + another new striker
Macheda + Welbeck
Owen is already loaded, this is a chance for him
to win the league
get in the england squad for the world cup
Owen has lost his pace and is injury prone but he is probably still a better finisher in the box than Rooney and Berbatov.
he would be useful at home against teams that park the bus.
I would be happy with:
Rooney + Berbatov
Owen + another new striker
Macheda + Welbeck
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Re: Owen for United?
Why would you be happy with Berbatov Batman ?
He really isn't very good
Welbeck is to strikers what Momo Sissoko is to midfielders
Macheda at this moment in time is just one extremely lucky swing of a right boot and a lucky deflection.
Without Ronaldo you need the other signing to be right and at the minute it is hard to guess who that person could be
He really isn't very good
Welbeck is to strikers what Momo Sissoko is to midfielders
Macheda at this moment in time is just one extremely lucky swing of a right boot and a lucky deflection.
Without Ronaldo you need the other signing to be right and at the minute it is hard to guess who that person could be
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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Re: Owen for United?
Manchester United fans thought they would be competing with Real Madrid and Barcelona in the transfer market waving around their £100m.
Instead they're competing with Stoke and Hull for Bosmans.
Instead they're competing with Stoke and Hull for Bosmans.
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Re: Owen for United?
I would hardly say Berbatov isn't very good, one average season doesn't write off a career.
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Re: Owen for United?
At least Owen wont make the same misake his buddy Shearer made!
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Re: Owen for United?
Karim Glennzema wrote:Manchester United fans thought they would be competing with Real Madrid and Barcelona in the transfer market waving around their £100m.
Instead they're competing with Stoke and Hull for Bosmans.
Well they tried...
Michael Owen
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Kimbo wrote:I would hardly say Berbatov isn't very good, one average season doesn't write off a career.
It's more than enough to show he isn't good enough to be a very top level footballer. You at least need an element of PGD to get by.
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Re: Owen for United?
Kimbo wrote:I would hardly say Berbatov isn't very good, one average season doesn't write off a career.
I expect players like Nani, Berbatov, Fletcher, Brown, Anderson, Rafael to be alot better this season which will make a huge difference to the team.
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Batman wrote:Kimbo wrote:I would hardly say Berbatov isn't very good, one average season doesn't write off a career.
I expect players like Nani, Berbatov, Fletcher, Brown, Anderson, Rafael to be alot better this season which will make a huge difference to the team.
I think we are all hoping they all get plenty of playing time this year Batman
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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Re: Owen for United?
It is important to clear the debt ASAP. So we can make Old Trafford 95k capacity and spend money on whoever, whenever. And this could be the idea however signing Owen STILL makes no sense.
Batman- Number of posts : 9071
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Conspiracy Theorist wrote:Batman wrote:Kimbo wrote:I would hardly say Berbatov isn't very good, one average season doesn't write off a career.
I expect players like Nani, Berbatov, Fletcher, Brown, Anderson, Rafael to be alot better this season which will make a huge difference to the team.
I think we are all hoping they all get plenty of playing time this year Batman
these players have already proved they got the bottle to win the league and not choke like liverpool players.
Rafa rant
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I don't think it's as bad as LRD is claiming. As long as he is not THE signing for the summer, he's come for free, he is accepting reasonable wages, and can probably be useful in a lot of situations.
If they sign a top striker to go with Rooney and then have Berbatov and Owen as backup, that's a pretty good quartet.
If they sign a top striker to go with Rooney and then have Berbatov and Owen as backup, that's a pretty good quartet.
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Batman- Number of posts : 9071
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Re: Owen for United?
nice finish
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Conspiracy Theorist wrote:Batman wrote:Kimbo wrote:I would hardly say Berbatov isn't very good, one average season doesn't write off a career.
I expect players like Nani, Berbatov, Fletcher, Brown, Anderson, Rafael to be alot better this season which will make a huge difference to the team.
I think we are all hoping they all get plenty of playing time this year Batman
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Re: Owen for United?
I'm not convinced this move will actually happen - but to comment, as is my policy, on the nascent speculation: From my perspective, as a Newcastle fan who considers Owen one of the most characterless players he has seen, I'm on the one hand mildly amused at Man Utd's alleged interest, on the other irritated to see Owen potentially on the verge of a move to a big, successful club. From Man Utd's perspective, I presume that, perhaps in response to Benzema's seemingly imminent move to Real Madrid, Ferguson has decided that he's satisfied with Rooney and Berbatov as his first choice strikeforce for next season, is looking at Owen as an experienced back-up option, and will concentrate on strengthening his first eleven elsewhere.
My view is that Owen isn't a striker any more - of course he can be played as one, but I think he's at best a below-average Premier League striker now, and I don't think the role gets the best out of him (even if it is the role he wants to play). He isn't strong enough or sufficiently inclined to battle opposition centre-backs, and he doesn't have the pace to stretch opposition defences; he provides no outlet as a front man; whilst his finishing is poor (I think he is very significantly affected by confidence in this regard, but I think he's fundamentally an inconsistent finisher, likely to miss as many chances as he takes).
He is, however, pretty good technically, and he is an intelligent footballer - his touch is good, his build-up play is decent - and what he does have is a knack for finding space in the penalty area, which makes him a goal threat. He is best now when coming from deep, whether playing off a striker or in the hole - if he is played deeper in this way, he is forced to get involved in his team's build-up play; his lack of pace isn't highlighted so much; and he can time his runs to get on the end of chances.
A move to Man Utd will suit him, because he'll be around good players, in a team that is likely to be relatively successful no matter how he performs. I think he can score goals for Man Utd, but I don't think he will prove prolific if they do sign him, I don't think he will add anything to their overall play, and I think he'll prove a bit-part player for them over the course of the season. I think that, if they're out of options or disinterested as regards an expensive, first-choice striker; if they don't want to spend on someone like Rossi as a back-up; then they'd still be better off giving the likes of Wellbeck and Campbell a more determined chance, rather than going for what seems like a safe, but may well prove an unfulfilling and wasteful, option in Owen.
My view is that Owen isn't a striker any more - of course he can be played as one, but I think he's at best a below-average Premier League striker now, and I don't think the role gets the best out of him (even if it is the role he wants to play). He isn't strong enough or sufficiently inclined to battle opposition centre-backs, and he doesn't have the pace to stretch opposition defences; he provides no outlet as a front man; whilst his finishing is poor (I think he is very significantly affected by confidence in this regard, but I think he's fundamentally an inconsistent finisher, likely to miss as many chances as he takes).
He is, however, pretty good technically, and he is an intelligent footballer - his touch is good, his build-up play is decent - and what he does have is a knack for finding space in the penalty area, which makes him a goal threat. He is best now when coming from deep, whether playing off a striker or in the hole - if he is played deeper in this way, he is forced to get involved in his team's build-up play; his lack of pace isn't highlighted so much; and he can time his runs to get on the end of chances.
A move to Man Utd will suit him, because he'll be around good players, in a team that is likely to be relatively successful no matter how he performs. I think he can score goals for Man Utd, but I don't think he will prove prolific if they do sign him, I don't think he will add anything to their overall play, and I think he'll prove a bit-part player for them over the course of the season. I think that, if they're out of options or disinterested as regards an expensive, first-choice striker; if they don't want to spend on someone like Rossi as a back-up; then they'd still be better off giving the likes of Wellbeck and Campbell a more determined chance, rather than going for what seems like a safe, but may well prove an unfulfilling and wasteful, option in Owen.
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Re: Owen for United?
Karim Glennzema wrote:Kaka
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Owen
I must admit I am shocked about the number of high profile strikers who told the Mancs "NO THANKS!"
Owen to the Mancs makes sense though! Nobody really wants to take the risk of signing Owen, and it seems everyone has turned down the Mancs, with apparently Ribéry the latest "NO THANKS!".
It's like being at the club and you approached every girl you liked for a dance with you, they all told you NO. You're striking out with the females, getting more drunk by the hour, but in the end there's always one available, may be ugly as fuck, but you're so drunk, you don't care anymore. At least you got one! That's what's happening to them Mancs!
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Re: Owen for United?
When did we made a bid for Benzema, even if we matched RM's bid Lyon would have accepted, Madrid have agree a fees with Lyon so far, we could have done the same.
And if you think we made a bid for him than why you think Aulas would sell him so early, he would have dragged it and tried to increase his player's value as history shows.
I am no Owen fan and I said it already, we are not going to bring in somebody big, specially not a striker if this goes.
And if you think we made a bid for him than why you think Aulas would sell him so early, he would have dragged it and tried to increase his player's value as history shows.
I am no Owen fan and I said it already, we are not going to bring in somebody big, specially not a striker if this goes.
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Re: Owen for United?
Owen to have a 'stringent' medical at Utd.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/ferguson-gambles-on-owen-revival-1729787.html
Ferguson gambles on Owen revival
United manager hopes former England golden boy can replace Ronaldo's goals
By Sam Wallace, Football Correspondent
Friday, 3 July 2009
It was 13 years ago that Michael Owen met Sir Alex Ferguson for the first time. "I will always remember him looking me straight in the eye and asking, 'So, do you want to play for Manchester United?'" Owen recalled years later in his autobiography.
The answer then was that Owen had, in his own words, "no raging desire" to play for United. Instead then, as now, the Owen camp had an eye for an opportunity. He was no Robbie Fowler who would never contemplate playing for United, rather he was the most sought-after player of his generation and happy to tout himself around.
Now the move to United has finally materialised for Owen – out of the England squad and one goal to his name in 2009 – his latest transfer will be regarded by Liverpool fans, and Newcastle, as cynical pragmatism. Owen has always been as cold-eyed about his business dealings in football as he has been when presented with a chance in front of goal and for the rest of us this move is an intriguing prospect.
Ferguson has been blown away in the transfer market by Real Madrid this summer. He has lost Cristiano Ronaldo to the Bernabeu and has seen Lyons Karim Benzema and, potentially, Franck Ribéry of Bayern Munich go the same way. So instead of going for the best in Europe he has decided to go for the best in Europe from eight years ago and see if he can still coax life out of the former golden boy of English football.
What was the most important thing that Ferguson lost with Ronaldo's departure? Goals – which were once Owen's key commodity. The player who was once whippet thin and astonishingly quick now looks jowly and prefers to play with his back to goal than sprint onto the shoulder of the last defender. But no-one can deny that he knows where the goal is and, given the chances he might just prove useful.
There is no way that Owen could be expected to start every game for United, and for Wayne Rooney it begs the question how on earth those two will function together. The Rooney-Owen partnership with England peaked at Euro 2004 and looked pretty unconvincing by the time the latter ruptured his cruciate ligaments playing against Sweden at the 2006 World Cup finals.
But Ferguson has never been afraid to pick up a player in the twilight of their careers and make something useful of them. There was Teddy Sheringham who joined United from Spurs at 31 in 1997 and Henrik Larsson who came at the age of 35 and helped United win their first title in four years. Okay, the French central defender Laurent Blanc is a less convincing example – he joined at 35 in 2001 – but Ferguson still judged him a success.
For Owen, it at last feels that his disastrously mismanaged career is back on track. He should never have gone to Real Madrid five years ago where his less than adventurous attitude meant that he decided within a month just to stay for a season. It hardly need saying that joining Newcastle has been a disaster, although the injuries – the cracked metatarsal suffered at Tottenham on New Year's Eve in 2005, the 2006 cruciate injury and a few hernias – have not helped.
But while it might be a great deal for Owen it tells United's fans where they stand in the new global order established by Real Madrid's frenzied summer spending. In 2001, when Owen was on his way to becoming the European Footballer of the Year, United bought Juan Sebastian Veron when the Argentine midfielder was arguably one of the most sought-after players in the world. Two years later they missed out on Ronaldinho who went on to be the best.
Now they are not even in the running for the likes of Kaka and Benzema, and on top of that their best player has finally got his way and walked out the door. So instead it is Owen, a good player once but hardly the man all of Europe wanted.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/ferguson-gambles-on-owen-revival-1729787.html
Ferguson gambles on Owen revival
United manager hopes former England golden boy can replace Ronaldo's goals
By Sam Wallace, Football Correspondent
Friday, 3 July 2009
It was 13 years ago that Michael Owen met Sir Alex Ferguson for the first time. "I will always remember him looking me straight in the eye and asking, 'So, do you want to play for Manchester United?'" Owen recalled years later in his autobiography.
The answer then was that Owen had, in his own words, "no raging desire" to play for United. Instead then, as now, the Owen camp had an eye for an opportunity. He was no Robbie Fowler who would never contemplate playing for United, rather he was the most sought-after player of his generation and happy to tout himself around.
Now the move to United has finally materialised for Owen – out of the England squad and one goal to his name in 2009 – his latest transfer will be regarded by Liverpool fans, and Newcastle, as cynical pragmatism. Owen has always been as cold-eyed about his business dealings in football as he has been when presented with a chance in front of goal and for the rest of us this move is an intriguing prospect.
Ferguson has been blown away in the transfer market by Real Madrid this summer. He has lost Cristiano Ronaldo to the Bernabeu and has seen Lyons Karim Benzema and, potentially, Franck Ribéry of Bayern Munich go the same way. So instead of going for the best in Europe he has decided to go for the best in Europe from eight years ago and see if he can still coax life out of the former golden boy of English football.
What was the most important thing that Ferguson lost with Ronaldo's departure? Goals – which were once Owen's key commodity. The player who was once whippet thin and astonishingly quick now looks jowly and prefers to play with his back to goal than sprint onto the shoulder of the last defender. But no-one can deny that he knows where the goal is and, given the chances he might just prove useful.
There is no way that Owen could be expected to start every game for United, and for Wayne Rooney it begs the question how on earth those two will function together. The Rooney-Owen partnership with England peaked at Euro 2004 and looked pretty unconvincing by the time the latter ruptured his cruciate ligaments playing against Sweden at the 2006 World Cup finals.
But Ferguson has never been afraid to pick up a player in the twilight of their careers and make something useful of them. There was Teddy Sheringham who joined United from Spurs at 31 in 1997 and Henrik Larsson who came at the age of 35 and helped United win their first title in four years. Okay, the French central defender Laurent Blanc is a less convincing example – he joined at 35 in 2001 – but Ferguson still judged him a success.
For Owen, it at last feels that his disastrously mismanaged career is back on track. He should never have gone to Real Madrid five years ago where his less than adventurous attitude meant that he decided within a month just to stay for a season. It hardly need saying that joining Newcastle has been a disaster, although the injuries – the cracked metatarsal suffered at Tottenham on New Year's Eve in 2005, the 2006 cruciate injury and a few hernias – have not helped.
But while it might be a great deal for Owen it tells United's fans where they stand in the new global order established by Real Madrid's frenzied summer spending. In 2001, when Owen was on his way to becoming the European Footballer of the Year, United bought Juan Sebastian Veron when the Argentine midfielder was arguably one of the most sought-after players in the world. Two years later they missed out on Ronaldinho who went on to be the best.
Now they are not even in the running for the likes of Kaka and Benzema, and on top of that their best player has finally got his way and walked out the door. So instead it is Owen, a good player once but hardly the man all of Europe wanted.
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Re: Owen for United?
Bad move imo.
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Re: Owen for United?
Seriously we have a buy back on Rossi so if we're getting someone small anyway, why not somebody young classy with potential instead of a past it never was it ex scouse gambling addict.
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