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    Post by Aristoskank Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:45 am

    Tweedle wrote:
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    DS wrote:Everyone says Walcott needs to improve his technique and first touch etc, can it be done at 20 ?
    Isnt this the reason alot of nations do technique training when their players are young and muscle training after they have achieved a level of technique.

    Probably not. If you can't control a ball while running quickly by the time you're 20, chances are you'll never be able to do it well.

    I've still to see any significant improvement in Walcott's play since his Southampton days, and that was 3 years ago. So much for Wenger's ability to develop young players...

    Very Happy

    Clearly you know more about football than Wenger and Capello then...


    Fuck off Tweeds, that is such a lame, half-assed response. Wenger has made numerous bad signings, like all managers have, and signed numerous youngsters who went on to not do much. Capello clearly picks Walcott due to pressure to rely on top four players and keep the England brand intact. We all know that Walcott is not picked on merit, because on merit he's behind Agbonlahor.

    This is like you saying 'you clearly know more about films than Michael Bay' because I didn't like either of the transformers movies. It's a wankers retort. Hence, you are a wanker.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:51 am

    Well saying he hasn't improved since his Saints days is just bollocks.

    For a start, he was playing in the championship back then. A League that makes shite EPL players look world class.

    Secondly, when he did start to make his breakthrough at Arsenal, he was nowhere near the player that he currently is. His ball skills were maybe relatively similar but he'd constantly go missing in games, shy away from the ball and make poor decisions in the final third.
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:03 am

    To be fair this is the only time I'm agreeing with Saints about anything Arsenal related. I think Walcott will be a relative success but I'm already backing Wilshere to have a much better career.

    The bit about Arsene not being able to develop players is bullshit though.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:43 am

    Whilst Wilshere looks a great talent, I think it's disgusting that he's in the U21's without having started a league game yet.

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    Post by Romford Pele Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:56 am

    That's our fault how?
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:53 pm

    Bendtner has moved from number 26 to 52 Erm
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    Post by Allez les rouges Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:29 pm

    That's the worst squad number I've ever heard, you're supposed to halve your shirt number, not double it Erm

    Sporting of him to offer to pay for people's upgrades, but one doubts whether everyone will have kept the receipts...
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    Post by L r dd Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:32 pm

    Why change it at all?

    And surely nobody bought a Bendtner top anyway so his gesture is surely a piss take.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:35 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:That's the worst squad number I've ever heard, you're supposed to halve your shirt number, not double it Erm

    Sporting of him to offer to pay for people's upgrades, but one doubts whether everyone will have kept the receipts...

    lol!

    About £80 to his mum and dad then.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:41 pm

    The names and numbers cost an extra £12. Come to think of which, maybe his number is in honour of the precise cost of the shirt Laugh

    Nick scored 15 last season I think, as compared to 20 for the great Robin. I don't have the comparative minutes on the pitch, perhaps someone else does.
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    Post by COTR Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:43 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Allez les rouges wrote:That's the worst squad number I've ever heard, you're supposed to halve your shirt number, not double it Erm

    Sporting of him to offer to pay for people's upgrades, but one doubts whether everyone will have kept the receipts...

    lol!

    About £80 to his mum and dad then.

    And Agooner ok
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    Post by L r dd Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:50 pm

    Agooner has Denilson with the number 6 i heard
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    Post by Hlebagone Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:50 pm

    Stimulus Package wrote:
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    Stimulus Package wrote:Indeed, Walcott has a better scoring record for Southampton and England than he does for Arsenal.

    Couldn't care less to be honest. Already shown i'm less than convinced about Walcott and whichever way you spin it, his goalscoring record is pretty poor so to compare his record for different teams seems to descend into little more than petty point scoring.

    Or illustrates that I was right all along that moving to Arsenal was the worst career choice he could have made at that stage, that he would stagnate, that Wenger wouldn't support him like he does his favourites and that the hype over his pace (and his pace alone) would continue regardless of how well he did, including repeated calls for him to be an England starter just because he's at the most hyped top four club.

    It really isn't funny just how often my predictions about Arsenal and their players come true...

    I was aiming for a discussion on Walcott's tactical use in the next year not the usual thesis of he's shit and the rebuke of he's not that shit. Clearly, that was too much to hope for.
    Firstly, Walcott's scoring for Southampton was in the championship which is easier to score in rendering any comparison pointless. Furthermore, how has Wenger not supported him. Splashing out such money on a completely unproved teenager certainly shows support. As does playing him, despite when he has been frustrating for a lot of the times.
    Also, you maintain that he has stagnated but has no other asset apart from his pace. How is this possible if, as you assert, he had no other asset originally. Such assets can hardly stagnate.
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    Post by Aristoskank Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:14 pm

    Can Walcott kick a football? Yes.


    Can Walcott kick a football any better than he could three years ago? Not that I can see.


    Simple enough for you?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:25 pm

    development isn't just about how well you can kick a football, for most players the basics will already be in place by the tiem you're 16, what Walcott has learned is better positional sense, timing, that kind of thing. He's not suddenly going to become a free kick specialist or grow a 3rd eye, but he is much better than the player Arsenal signed, Much better.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:30 pm

    kas wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    COTR #6 wrote:
    The Professor wrote:Why aren't Liverpool dug out as much as Arsenal?

    Let me start by saying I don't want anyone, Gooner or Liverpudian, to take this as a dig at Liverpool Football Club. I'm merely using them as an example.

    In fact, if Arsenal don't win the Premiership title then I hope Liverpool do. I think there is an affinity between Arsenal and Liverpool supporters. We respect each other and have a bond, especially over the Ray Kennedy fund.

    I didn't want to write this, because of my respect for Liverpool, but I felt I had too.

    All summer long I've heard that Arsenal are on the wane and are the side most likely to be replaced in the so-called top four. I keep hearing that 2005 was the last time we won anything and that barren run is probably going to continue. This comes from the so-called experts of the media. I hate the media.

    The media, more than a senile tape recorder, repeat the fact that the last time Arsenal won anything (2005) the dinosaurs were still in town. Sure, it feels that long ago but I never hear that the last time Liverpool won anything (2006) was in fact only a year later when cavemen took over the planet.

    Not a major difference? So why is it that we only hear of Arsenal's trophy-less run?

    Last summer it went into overdrive, this year it's even worse! We are being written off more than my old Fiesta and I can't deny it frustrates me. Badly.

    If the last time Arsenal won the league was in 1990 I'm sure the media would be wanking. Why is that Arsenal are dug out? It is xenophobia? If that is the case then I'd say the media were hypocrites. They cream their knickers when watching Arsenal at full flight but can't wait to stick the knife in about the amount of foreign players we have.

    As I've said, last summer we were dug out more than a fossil would be. It would have been three years since our last trophy. Liverpool are at that stage now but has it actually been mentioned? I'll eat my own pants if it has!

    Now let me apologise for using Liverpool as an example. I really hope they have a great season. Of course not at the expense of Arsenal! As I've said if Arsenal don't win the league, I hope Liverpool do.

    But this is a perfect of example of the media using Arsenal to get headlines and it pisses me right off. I hope we smash the fucking league and that Arsene Wenger sticks his fingers up the hypocritical wankers.

    http://wrighty7.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-arent-liverpool-dug-out-as-much-as.html


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    lol!


    Can't believe you posted this piece of shit

    I expected u to respond with a big lol....becoming so predictable COTR.

    Truth hurts.

    COTR's response is pretty appropriate. That's an awful little rant, not sure what point you're trying to prove by posting it here other than the fact that there are some really shit blogs out there.


    Doh

    Ok lets see If u agree with me.

    At this point last season, we had just gone 3 seasons without a trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    Pool have now also just gone 3 seasons without any trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    So pretty similar to where we were compared to where they are now.

    Now think back about how the press/pundits/other fans couldn't shut up about our barren trophy run, compare to what is being said about Pool at the moment. Hardly anyone mentions the fact that they've gone long a time without wining anything. So that begs the question, why aren't Pool/Benitez criticised just like we were at this point last season?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:33 pm

    The Professor wrote:

    At this point last season, we had just gone 3 seasons without a trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    Pool have now also just gone 3 seasons without any trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    So pretty similar to where we were compared to where they are now.

    Now think back about how the press/pundits/other fans couldn't shut up about our barren trophy run, compare to what is being said about Pool at the moment. Hardly anyone mentions the fact that they've gone long a time without wining anything. So that begs the question, why aren't Pool/Benitez criticised just like we were at this point last season?

    it's fairly simple isn't it? Liverpool have shown a gradual improvement in the last 5 years while Arsenal have shown a gradual decline. It's not brain science.
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    Post by L r dd Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:39 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    kas wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    COTR #6 wrote:
    The Professor wrote:Why aren't Liverpool dug out as much as Arsenal?

    Let me start by saying I don't want anyone, Gooner or Liverpudian, to take this as a dig at Liverpool Football Club. I'm merely using them as an example.

    In fact, if Arsenal don't win the Premiership title then I hope Liverpool do. I think there is an affinity between Arsenal and Liverpool supporters. We respect each other and have a bond, especially over the Ray Kennedy fund.

    I didn't want to write this, because of my respect for Liverpool, but I felt I had too.

    All summer long I've heard that Arsenal are on the wane and are the side most likely to be replaced in the so-called top four. I keep hearing that 2005 was the last time we won anything and that barren run is probably going to continue. This comes from the so-called experts of the media. I hate the media.

    The media, more than a senile tape recorder, repeat the fact that the last time Arsenal won anything (2005) the dinosaurs were still in town. Sure, it feels that long ago but I never hear that the last time Liverpool won anything (2006) was in fact only a year later when cavemen took over the planet.

    Not a major difference? So why is it that we only hear of Arsenal's trophy-less run?

    Last summer it went into overdrive, this year it's even worse! We are being written off more than my old Fiesta and I can't deny it frustrates me. Badly.

    If the last time Arsenal won the league was in 1990 I'm sure the media would be wanking. Why is that Arsenal are dug out? It is xenophobia? If that is the case then I'd say the media were hypocrites. They cream their knickers when watching Arsenal at full flight but can't wait to stick the knife in about the amount of foreign players we have.

    As I've said, last summer we were dug out more than a fossil would be. It would have been three years since our last trophy. Liverpool are at that stage now but has it actually been mentioned? I'll eat my own pants if it has!

    Now let me apologise for using Liverpool as an example. I really hope they have a great season. Of course not at the expense of Arsenal! As I've said if Arsenal don't win the league, I hope Liverpool do.

    But this is a perfect of example of the media using Arsenal to get headlines and it pisses me right off. I hope we smash the fucking league and that Arsene Wenger sticks his fingers up the hypocritical wankers.

    http://wrighty7.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-arent-liverpool-dug-out-as-much-as.html


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    lol!


    Can't believe you posted this piece of shit

    I expected u to respond with a big lol....becoming so predictable COTR.

    Truth hurts.

    COTR's response is pretty appropriate. That's an awful little rant, not sure what point you're trying to prove by posting it here other than the fact that there are some really shit blogs out there.


    Doh

    Ok lets see If u agree with me.

    At this point last season, we had just gone 3 seasons without a trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    Pool have now also just gone 3 seasons without any trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    So pretty similar to where we were compared to where they are now.

    Now think back about how the press/pundits/other fans couldn't shut up about our barren trophy run, compare to what is being said about Pool at the moment. Hardly anyone mentions the fact that they've gone long a time without wining anything. So that begs the question, why aren't Pool/Benitez criticised just like we were at this point last season?

    Are you saying Liverpool should be critised more or Arsenal less?

    Liverpool will always escape such things more than the rest due to the fact half of the media seem to either support them or be former players or connected in some way.

    Arsenal deserve the stuff they're getting IMO. Because there are absolutely no signs you're going to improve on 4th.
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    Post by COTR Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:47 pm

    The Professor wrote:

    Ok lets see If u agree with me.

    At this point last season, we had just gone 3 seasons without a trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    Pool have now also just gone 3 seasons without any trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    So pretty similar to where we were compared to where they are now.

    Now think back about how the press/pundits/other fans couldn't shut up about our barren trophy run, compare to what is being said about Pool at the moment. Hardly anyone mentions the fact that they've gone long a time without wining anything. So that begs the question, why aren't Pool/Benitez criticised just like we were at this point last season?

    Your problem is you are looking at things too linearly Prof. You don't seem to be taking any other factors into consideration other than trophies won.

    Look behind what is making people criticise Arsenal at the minute (included are your own fans, shareholders and ex players) and you will see why people use the trophy argument in combination with everything else. It is because Arsenal are not improving and do not seem to be in a position to compete for the major trophies. Selling off major assets every season and relying on inexperienced youngsters to fill some of the gaps.

    In contrast, Liverpool are seen by the press to be in a position to compete (only time will tell if selling Alonso will cause this to be reassessed), based on the strength of the team, performances in europe and gradual improvement in the league.

    Besides I don't think there is any other manager in the league who has been subjected to more bullshit from the press than Benitez.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:52 pm

    Hlebagone wrote:
    It seems not a summer goes by without Arsenal fans ruminating over what might become of Theo Walcott in the ensuing season. Amazingly Theo has been an Arsenal player for three and a half years now and is about to begin his fourth full campaign as a first team player. Yet he is still only 20. Walcott has been a player that has flirted with the sublime and the ridiculous in equal measure, equally capable of cutting defences to ribbons with a sixty yard saunter as he is tripping over the ball under no pressure. For Walcott, shoulder injuries disrupted his progress. The sixty yard run at Anfield in April 2008 was supposed to be Walcott`s grand arrival- his Hendrix playing the star spangled banner at Woodstock, his James Dean in Rebel Without A Cause. The focus shifted in September from N5 and expanded nationwide overnight like so many Starbucks when he bagged himself a hat trick for England in Zagreb. Yet further problems with his shoulders elucidated his slight frame and enervated his progress with three months on the sidelines.

    This season, the water wings really need to come off. Walcott is edging further and further away from the envelope marked 'potential`, the time has come to cut the apron strings. Walcott has shown on a plethora of occasions that he has the quality to swing games in our favour in individual moments- however, consistency must now be a keen bedfellow to ally to his still all too rough around the edges displays. Firstly, he has to learn how to control the ball much better and be at ease with it at his feet. All too often Walcott lacks composure, believing that every time he receives possession he must slalom past every defender and make a beeline for goal. At times, when the ball reaches his feet, it looks as though a mole has briefly popped out of the ground milliseconds before it comes to him. I often think Walcott`s legs are much too quick for his brain. His ball retention is not what a team like Arsenal requires on the right hand side of midfield, especially when compared to his predecessor in the possession Alex Hleb-who did not seem to understand that surrendering possession of a football was not against the laws of physics. I think Walcott`s presence on the right last season was a more accurate explanation for Fabregas bombing forward less than the old "defensive midfielder" nutshell so often trotted out ad nauseam. cheers Finally someone agrees with me

    That said, Walcott has the ability to be a pocket dynamo. Witness the assist at Ewood Park for van Persie followed one week later at the Reebok Stadium when he led the Bolton midfield a merry dance in the build up to Denilson`s clincher. Much like Bendtner, Walcott can infuriate and delight in equal measure, by virtue of his nationality Walcott gets an easier ride from supporters. However, supporters are fickle and there`s a new English queen on the scene, with younger perter breasts and doe eyes that set our loins a blaze. Jack Wilshere is already being hyped to the rafters; comparisons with Walcott are all the rage (anyone else notice how football fans are getting more and more like readers of heat magazine by the year?) and the poll results are in. Yep, Wilshere is better, sexier and writes better bass hooks apparently. Walcott may now have to content with the honeymoon period coming to an end as his sleeker cousin shuffles nonchalantly into the spotlight, Theo might have to put up with some backbiting and bitching as over simplified paradigms are drawn.

    However, Walcott has an awful lot to offer-he just has to work on his technique slightly and convince us he is more than just a sprinter. Patrice Evra showed in the Champions League semi finals that closing Walcott down quickly and not leaving him space to collect the ball and get it out of his stride neuters his game. He needs to be smarter and more suave; he has improved his body strength and looks more comfortable with his back to goal, but if he can learn to pass the ball more intelligently and then move into space- pushing defences back, he could become quite a weapon. The new 4-3-3 system would seem to suit his strengths more than any other player I can think of. The talk of the summer has been that this year will see Walcott will be nudged forward into a striker role. Looking at the 4-3-3 that has been experimented with in pre season, Theo will take up the wide right berth of the front three. With van Persie spearheading and Arshavin supplying the bullets to his left, the Gunners will not lack guile in the final third or ingenuity in the area. However, defending teams might look at van Persie`s lack of pace in behind defenders and look to squeeze Arsenal up with a high line.

    This is where Walcott comes in. The prospect of his pace over the top should teams be tempted to try and make Arshavin and van Persie do their dirty work in the centre circle should either frighten defences into retreat or leave them open to punishment, as I do not honestly think there is a defender in the Premiership who could live with Theo for pace. Particularly if that defender has to turn back and run towards his own goal. This could go some way to enervating Evra`s tactic of squeezing Theo up, with players like Andrey and Robin equally capable of a dinked ball over the top into space, opposing backlines would be unwise to play a high line. Theo will still have to work on his defensive discipline, his awareness off the ball and his tracking back are still some way short. But I`ve no doubt that Arsene has worked tirelessly on making Theo`s off the ball runs sharper so that he can push defences back and free up some space for van Persie and Arshavin. Arsenal began to become too reliant on using Adebayor as a battering ram (perhaps no coincidence that the chief protagonist of the hopeful sixty yard ball to Adebayor has packed his bindle and joined Ade at the circus). Fabregas, Arshavin and van Persie can restore Arsenal to a side that passes and moves to great effect in the final third again and Walcott has the raw materials to be the ace up the sleeve and the apple in the eye of the aforementioned. But Walcott must iron out the small technical deficiencies in his game to really assume the mantle. At 20, he is a rare mixture of youth and experience, the opportunity awaits him. Will he slalom gracefully after it or trip over his own feet chasing it? Therein lies the question that 2009-10 will go some way to revealing.LD.
    http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=515580

    Good article, in my ever humble opinion and i'm not maintaining any agendas by posting it here. Honest. Admittedly, my opinion on Walcott does tend towards the pessimistic but the write does make good points as to how he could be used this season. As mentioned, i'm fed up of seeing him on the right of a 4-4-2 midfield. Viva Hleb.



    I've always said the presence of a player like Walcott on our wings is the main reason we couldn't play a flat 4-4-2 with Fabregas playing box to box without being exposed . But ofcourse as usual Denilson/Song/lack of a DM were to blame for Fabregas' less adventurous role compared to previous seasons.

    I think Theo and Song will be the biggest beneficiaries of the 4-3-3 system. Freeing Theo of all midfield duties would not only make us a more balanced side, but it will allow him to regularly make use of one of his greatest strengths ie his ability to time his runs behind the defence. Maybe we'll use the same same way Barca use their forwards ie they don't need to constantly come all the way back to cover the fullbacks, but press high up the pitch whenever the ball is lost.

    Song improved greatly towards the end of the season, even as someone who has always defended him, I never thought he could play as well as he did. However I have always had reservation about his mobility in a 4-4-2. I think he could be easily exposed If asked to cover a large area, so having another CM in there would greatly benefit him. I can see him and Theo performing very well this season.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:56 pm

    Alberto Aqglenani wrote:
    The Professor wrote:

    At this point last season, we had just gone 3 seasons without a trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    Pool have now also just gone 3 seasons without any trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    So pretty similar to where we were compared to where they are now.

    Now think back about how the press/pundits/other fans couldn't shut up about our barren trophy run, compare to what is being said about Pool at the moment. Hardly anyone mentions the fact that they've gone long a time without wining anything. So that begs the question, why aren't Pool/Benitez criticised just like we were at this point last season?

    it's fairly simple isn't it? Liverpool have shown a gradual improvement in the last 5 years while Arsenal have shown a gradual decline. It's not brain science.

    Yes we performed better in the league in 2005/2006, 2006/2007 compared to the last 2 seasons. Gradual decline Doh
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:03 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    Alberto Aqglenani wrote:
    The Professor wrote:

    At this point last season, we had just gone 3 seasons without a trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    Pool have now also just gone 3 seasons without any trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    So pretty similar to where we were compared to where they are now.

    Now think back about how the press/pundits/other fans couldn't shut up about our barren trophy run, compare to what is being said about Pool at the moment. Hardly anyone mentions the fact that they've gone long a time without wining anything. So that begs the question, why aren't Pool/Benitez criticised just like we were at this point last season?

    it's fairly simple isn't it? Liverpool have shown a gradual improvement in the last 5 years while Arsenal have shown a gradual decline. It's not brain science.

    Yes we performed better in the league in 2005/2006, 2006/2007 compared to the last 2 seasons. Gradual decline Doh

    you finished 1st and 2nd not so long ago, since then it's been 3rd and 4th. In the same timeframe Liverpool have gone from finishing 4th/5th to finishing 2nd/3rd. The Liverpool team has been getting better, the Arsenal team has been getting worse. I really don't know how much more simply I can put it? Liverpool sold 1 key player in that time, a player who forced a move. Arsenal sold several.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:05 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    kas wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    COTR #6 wrote:
    The Professor wrote:Why aren't Liverpool dug out as much as Arsenal?

    Let me start by saying I don't want anyone, Gooner or Liverpudian, to take this as a dig at Liverpool Football Club. I'm merely using them as an example.

    In fact, if Arsenal don't win the Premiership title then I hope Liverpool do. I think there is an affinity between Arsenal and Liverpool supporters. We respect each other and have a bond, especially over the Ray Kennedy fund.

    I didn't want to write this, because of my respect for Liverpool, but I felt I had too.

    All summer long I've heard that Arsenal are on the wane and are the side most likely to be replaced in the so-called top four. I keep hearing that 2005 was the last time we won anything and that barren run is probably going to continue. This comes from the so-called experts of the media. I hate the media.

    The media, more than a senile tape recorder, repeat the fact that the last time Arsenal won anything (2005) the dinosaurs were still in town. Sure, it feels that long ago but I never hear that the last time Liverpool won anything (2006) was in fact only a year later when cavemen took over the planet.

    Not a major difference? So why is it that we only hear of Arsenal's trophy-less run?

    Last summer it went into overdrive, this year it's even worse! We are being written off more than my old Fiesta and I can't deny it frustrates me. Badly.

    If the last time Arsenal won the league was in 1990 I'm sure the media would be wanking. Why is that Arsenal are dug out? It is xenophobia? If that is the case then I'd say the media were hypocrites. They cream their knickers when watching Arsenal at full flight but can't wait to stick the knife in about the amount of foreign players we have.

    As I've said, last summer we were dug out more than a fossil would be. It would have been three years since our last trophy. Liverpool are at that stage now but has it actually been mentioned? I'll eat my own pants if it has!

    Now let me apologise for using Liverpool as an example. I really hope they have a great season. Of course not at the expense of Arsenal! As I've said if Arsenal don't win the league, I hope Liverpool do.

    But this is a perfect of example of the media using Arsenal to get headlines and it pisses me right off. I hope we smash the fucking league and that Arsene Wenger sticks his fingers up the hypocritical wankers.

    http://wrighty7.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-arent-liverpool-dug-out-as-much-as.html


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    Can't believe you posted this piece of shit

    I expected u to respond with a big lol....becoming so predictable COTR.

    Truth hurts.

    COTR's response is pretty appropriate. That's an awful little rant, not sure what point you're trying to prove by posting it here other than the fact that there are some really shit blogs out there.


    Doh

    Ok lets see If u agree with me.

    At this point last season, we had just gone 3 seasons without a trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    Pool have now also just gone 3 seasons without any trophy, finished 4 points off the league winners, and crashed out of the CL quarters.

    So pretty similar to where we were compared to where they are now.

    Now think back about how the press/pundits/other fans couldn't shut up about our barren trophy run, compare to what is being said about Pool at the moment. Hardly anyone mentions the fact that they've gone long a time without wining anything. So that begs the question, why aren't Pool/Benitez criticised just like we were at this point last season?

    Are you saying Liverpool should be critised more or Arsenal less?

    Liverpool will always escape such things more than the rest due to the fact half of the media seem to either support them or be former players or connected in some way.

    Arsenal deserve the stuff they're getting IMO. Because there are absolutely no signs you're going to improve on 4th.

    They should be getting some of the criticism we are getting. You see even liverpool fans come on here and act as if we are headed for relegation, whilst there are a lots of thing going wrong at their club too; still no creative wide player of good quality,Alonso gone(bought a crock to replace him), Carra still the untouchable man in defence etc...Funny If we actual go on to have a better season than them.
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    Post by COTR Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:13 pm

    The Professor wrote:

    They should be getting some of the criticism we are getting. You see even liverpool fans come on here and act as if we are headed for relegation, whilst there are a lots of thing going wrong at their club too; still no creative wide player of good quality,Alonso gone(bought a crock to replace him), Carra still the untouchable man in defence etc...Funny If we actual go on to have a better season than them.

    I'm confused why you think Liverpool do not get any criticism. What kind of a rock have you been living under just out of interest ?

    People make predictions based on an assessment of various different factors. This has led people to see Liverpool as an improving team and Arsenal as a declining team. You only have to look at people's predictions for the new league campaign or for the CL. Nobody ever says Arsenal can win it do they, whilst Liverpool are now regularly mentioned. If Arsenal go on to have a better season than us then that will just mean Arsenal have exceeded expectations or Liverpool have performed worse than expected. It doesn't mean people are not allow to make the prediction in the first place.

    This is all very simple Prof. You seem to be the only person having any trouble with it


    P.S Which Liverpool fans think you are headed for relegation ? Is Lrd a newly appointed Liverpool fan ?
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:16 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:

    Ray Parlour wrote:Bendtner in negotiations for a new deal according to Sky Sports.

    Neutral

    Should be given an 8 year deal ok

    It just a bit unfortunate for him we are moving from a 2 striker system(he's best as SS). But he's still intelligent enough to make on the wings or even a half striker half no 10 role(similar to the one Messi played in the CL final).

    Oh and Pierre next time you watch him, forget about his inconsistent 1st touch and focus on the following:

    - the choice of his passing
    - the weight of his passes
    - his link up play
    - his leap and ability to direct his headers
    - his ability to shield the ball and drive forward with it despite not being very fast.
    - his vision

    and you'd see what a player he'll be if he adds consistency to his game.

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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:20 pm

    COTR #6 wrote:
    The Professor wrote:

    They should be getting some of the criticism we are getting. You see even liverpool fans come on here and act as if we are headed for relegation, whilst there are a lots of thing going wrong at their club too; still no creative wide player of good quality,Alonso gone(bought a crock to replace him), Carra still the untouchable man in defence etc...Funny If we actual go on to have a better season than them.

    I'm confused why you think Liverpool do not get any criticism. What kind of a rock have you been living under just out of interest ?

    People make predictions based on an assessment of various different factors. This has led people to see Liverpool as an improving team and Arsenal as a declining team. You only have to look at people's predictions for the new league campaign or for the CL. Nobody ever says Arsenal can win it do they, whilst Liverpool are now regularly mentioned. If Arsenal go on to have a better season than us then that will just mean Arsenal have exceeded expectations or Liverpool have performed worse than expected. It doesn't mean people are not allow to make the prediction in the first place.

    This is all very simple Prof. You seem to be the only person having any trouble with it


    P.S Which Liverpool fans think you are headed for relegation ? Is Lrd a newly appointed Liverpool fan ?

    Be honest, when was the last time were u reminded by the press that u have gone x number of years without winning anything?
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    Post by Aristoskank Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:22 pm

    http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/football-spy/2009/06/liverpool-must-keep-stars-to-w.html
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:24 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:The names and numbers cost an extra £12. Come to think of which, maybe his number is in honour of the precise cost of the shirt Laugh

    Nick scored 15 last season I think, as compared to 20 for the great Robin. I don't have the comparative minutes on the pitch, perhaps someone else does.

    2008/2009 minutes per goal

    RVP 201
    Adebayor 191
    Bendtner 195


    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/season-review-stats

    Mind u RVP (our top scorer), had the advantage of taking something like 4 more penalties than he did.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:24 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    COTR #6 wrote:
    The Professor wrote:

    They should be getting some of the criticism we are getting. You see even liverpool fans come on here and act as if we are headed for relegation, whilst there are a lots of thing going wrong at their club too; still no creative wide player of good quality,Alonso gone(bought a crock to replace him), Carra still the untouchable man in defence etc...Funny If we actual go on to have a better season than them.

    I'm confused why you think Liverpool do not get any criticism. What kind of a rock have you been living under just out of interest ?

    People make predictions based on an assessment of various different factors. This has led people to see Liverpool as an improving team and Arsenal as a declining team. You only have to look at people's predictions for the new league campaign or for the CL. Nobody ever says Arsenal can win it do they, whilst Liverpool are now regularly mentioned. If Arsenal go on to have a better season than us then that will just mean Arsenal have exceeded expectations or Liverpool have performed worse than expected. It doesn't mean people are not allow to make the prediction in the first place.

    This is all very simple Prof. You seem to be the only person having any trouble with it


    P.S Which Liverpool fans think you are headed for relegation ? Is Lrd a newly appointed Liverpool fan ?

    Be honest, when was the last time were u reminded by the press that u have gone x number of years without winning anything?

    Doh

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    Post by COTR Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:38 pm

    The Professor wrote:

    Be honest, when was the last time were u reminded by the press that u have gone x number of years without winning anything?

    Why are you ignoring everything that is being said Prof ?

    I would say that the number of times I have read that Benitez will never win the league at Liverpool is now reaching the thousands.

    I don't know if a thousand articles is enough, especially with Glenn finding 1.62 million but it will have to do

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