Wengerwatch 2009/10

Olé wrote:

De Guzman wrote:LMAO. Think he's pretty boring, actually very boring, also when it comes to football. Bit amazed by the tactical changes this season. We usually always play the same & he always waits to long with subs.

By the way the new Vieira is playing at Feyenoord. Leroy -the Iron Man- Fer is his name. Will be the new definition of a midfield powerhouse, mark my words.

Fer >>>>>>>>>> Diaby

Yeah, Yeah, and Bruins was the next big thing.

Stimulus Package wrote:
The Dutch hype machine is no worse than the English [...] hype machines

blutgraetsche wrote:

Stimulus Package wrote:
The Dutch hype machine is no worse than the English [...] hype machines

It's different. There is a certain degree of self-loathing involved when it comes to English hype, which explains why every player who shows a bit of skill is hyped to high heavens, while more "workmanlike" players (you could say "English", in the stereotypical sense), who may be better all-round players even, are much less praised. It's seems to be some kind of compensation, while the Dutch truly believe that they are God's gift to football, that everyone else has no clue, in addition to a victim complex that is not so common on the island (not saying it doesn't exist).

Leonardo (De Guzman) is good guy though.

MadVillain wrote:RVP, Robben, & Sneijder are the only Dutchies under 30 that are deserving of the hype

L r dd wrote:Robben Rosicky Diaby RVP do you like collecting crocks mate

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:RVP, Robben, & SneijderKUYT are the only Dutchies under 30 that are deserving of the hype

VDV could join those 3(the talent is there) but it looks like he's made the wrong career choice.

It is highly unlikely to happen but I'd run out of my house naked if we sign Robben. He can be such a devastating player, and I'd say only Messi and Ronaldo are better wing forwards when he's at his best.

MadVillain wrote:

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:RVP, Robben, & SneijderKUYT are the only Dutchies under 30 that are deserving of the hype

VDV could join those 3(the talent is there) but it looks like he's made the wrong career choice.

It is highly unlikely to happen but I'd run out of my house naked if we sign Robben. He can be such a devastating player, and I'd say only Messi and Ronaldo are better wing forwards when he's at his best.

WTF has Sneijder done in his career to warrant his hype?! AJAX Dutchies especially are so ridiculously overrated it's not even funny, I rate VDV higher, at least he was good in the Bundesliga, Sneijder could become like Paul Scholes, but he hasn't proven it at all yet.

I don't see it with him, I really don't.

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:RVP, Robben, & SneijderKUYT are the only Dutchies under 30 that are deserving of the hype

VDV could join those 3(the talent is there) but it looks like he's made the wrong career choice.

It is highly unlikely to happen but I'd run out of my house naked if we sign Robben. He can be such a devastating player, and I'd say only Messi and Ronaldo are better wing forwards when he's at his best.

WTF has Sneijder done in his career to warrant his hype?! AJAX Dutchies especially are so ridiculously overrated it's not even funny, I rate VDV higher, at least he was good in the Bundesliga, Sneijder could become like Paul Scholes, but he hasn't proven it at all yet.

I don't see it with him, I really don't.

Winning league titles with Ajax and Madrid.

MOTM performance against Italy and France during the recent Euros.

Goal of the tournament Euro 2008.

MadVillain wrote:

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:RVP, Robben, & SneijderKUYT are the only Dutchies under 30 that are deserving of the hype

VDV could join those 3(the talent is there) but it looks like he's made the wrong career choice.

It is highly unlikely to happen but I'd run out of my house naked if we sign Robben. He can be such a devastating player, and I'd say only Messi and Ronaldo are better wing forwards when he's at his best.

WTF has Sneijder done in his career to warrant his hype?! AJAX Dutchies especially are so ridiculously overrated it's not even funny, I rate VDV higher, at least he was good in the Bundesliga, Sneijder could become like Paul Scholes, but he hasn't proven it at all yet.

I don't see it with him, I really don't.

Winning league titles with Ajax and Madrid.

MOTM performance against Italy and France during the recent Euros.

Goal of the tournament Euro 2008.

So what - Zlatlan's won those titles and plenty more and still get's called overrated/rubbish, and he's the best Ajax player of the last 10 years.

Everyone knows that Italy & France were rubbish in the Euros (especially the latter). Arshavin showed him the way in the QF's.

If he's half as good as people say he is he'd have done something, anything, major by now.

Clearly he has ability, but until he does, he's just another Ajax Dutchie full of hot air, like VDV, De Jong, Huntelaar, Babel etc. etc.

Kuyt has achieved way more than Sneijder has, how can this possibly be argued?

Just cos he's not as gifted or pretty to watch doesn't mean that he isn't better.

MadVillain wrote:
Kuyt has achieved way more than Sneijder has, how can this possibly be argued?

Just cos he's not as gifted or pretty to watch doesn't mean that he isn't better.

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:
Kuyt has achieved way more than Sneijder has, how can this possibly be argued?

Just cos he's not as gifted or pretty to watch doesn't mean that he isn't better.

Now I know this is a wind up.

Super Dirk's has only got ONE Dutch cup to show for his amazing performances over the years.

Zlatan is often seen as overrated(not that I agree with them) because he's often mentioned among the best 3 in the world, but he disappoints everytime those who don't often watch him take the time to do so. Sneijder is different. He's widely regarded as one of the best midfielders around(and rightly so) but no one says he's one of the top 5 or top 10 players in the world.

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:RVP, Robben, & Sneijder are the only Dutchies under 30 that are deserving of the hype

MadVillain wrote:

The Professor wrote:

MadVillain wrote:
Kuyt has achieved way more than Sneijder has, how can this possibly be argued?

Just cos he's not as gifted or pretty to watch doesn't mean that he isn't better.

Now I know this is a wind up.

Super Dirk's has only got ONE Dutch cup to show for his amazing performances over the years.

Zlatan is often seen as overrated(not that I agree with them) because he's often mentioned among the best 3 in the world, but he disappoints everytime those who don't often watch him take the time to do so. Sneijder is different. He's widely regarded as one of the best midfielders around(and rightly so) but no one says he's one of the top 5 or top 10 players in the world.

I meant personal achievements - careful criticising Dirk, Fey'll have you

Dirk's record in big games and especially the CL KO's set him apart from Sneijder.... He don make di most of wat God give 'am, every day, every night, people go talk talk talk pan Sneijder and sing 'im praises, but me no go fasten pan dat. I no de see 'am supposed brilliance!

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Eduardo defended over dive claims

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has refused to condemn Eduardo after the striker was accused of diving in the Champions League win over Celtic at the Emirates.

There appeared to be no contact between Eduardo and Celtic goalkeeper Artur Boruc but referee Manuel Gonzalez still gave a penalty that Eduardo converted.

Following the 3-1 win, Wenger said: "I do not go as far to say Eduardo dived.

"He went down, for what reason I do not know. Having seen it again on television, it doesn't look a penalty."

The Gunners boss added: "I believe really that it was not a penalty but I am also not sure that the keeper didn't touch him with his right knee, having seen it again.

"I do not think he (Eduardo) would have complained if the penalty was not given.

"Is it acceptable? I never asked in my life any guy to dive to win a penalty but sometimes the players go down because there is no other way to escape the tackling of the keeper. Sometimes they dive."

Wenger attempted to shrug off controversy by claiming that the Gunners were the dominant side as they booked their place in the group stages of the competition.

"I must still say that we were likely always to score the first goal because Eduardo had a great chance before the penalty," he said. "We always looked in control of the game."