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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:31 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:If van Gaal chose UEFA Cup standard mediocrity like Tymoschuk, Gomez and Olic then sack him now.

    If not - give him time as it can't be easy when you inherit UEFA Cup standard mediocrity like Lahm, Klose and Toni.

    agree with all bar Lahm. He's better than that. Olic is a left-footed Kuyt, Benitez should sign him up Ale
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    Post by Fey Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:50 pm

    MadVillain™️ wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:If van Gaal chose UEFA Cup standard mediocrity like Tymoschuk, Gomez and Olic then sack him now.

    If not - give him time as it can't be easy when you inherit UEFA Cup standard mediocrity like Lahm, Klose and Toni.

    agree with all bar Lahm. He's better than that. Olic is a left-footed Kuyt, Benitez should sign him up Ale

    lol!

    Like Spurs is the pinnacle for purists now? Fuck off! You play with Huddletenstone ffs!
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:15 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:according to the Bild sources, VDV and Sneijder are NO options for Hoeness and Co

    Ulli is famously stubborn and might not want to cave in to media/fan pressure

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    the SQUAD is not the problem anyway

    it's what van Qual does with it

    still, two problems would be solved by buying Enke and HINKEL

    anglo would become a Bayern supporter and could marry Deisler Smile



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    Kahn bemoans the end of Bayern as a MANNSCHAFT

    and effectively has a go at Ribery and Co's EGOMANIA

    http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/25082009/73/bundesliga-king-kahn-watscht-bayern-profis.html

    Ale

    before Hoeness stops wanting to convert Bayern into the FC Ribery, it will be difficult to turn the ship around

    Brilliant! Ale lol!
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:09 pm

    Bayern in LEDERHOSEN

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    is Germany really THAT great, I hear you ask ???

    better, says I

    and provides the evidence

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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:13 pm

    I didn't even know Paulaner made such small glasses Wink
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:32 pm

    Just want to add that I always said that Lahm is more effective on the left. Even Van Gaal will be forced to see the light, typical dogmatic Dutchies... Wink
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:46 pm

    As expected, Hoeneß now does want to invest in the squad.

    http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_144030.html

    And while it's good to see that Effenberg appreciates the (unique) qualities of Wiese, they can totally forget about signing him. They may get Enke though.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:14 pm

    You really did use to insist that Lahm was better used on the right Blut, it's quite surreal...

    Great photos Otto, Mario suits lederhosen down to the ground. Do you know when the boys are planning their Wiesntrip this year? May be able to coincide with them Smile
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:32 pm

    WHAT? That's not true Allez, you have been hanging around with Dutchies too much it seems, stop lying! Laughing

    Lahm is better on the left. The only reason to move him on the right for the national team was Jansen, who seemed to have bags of potential back in the day, but it didn't really work out as we all know. So for the sake of having attacking fullbacks on both flanks, moving Lahm to the right made sense.

    BACK THEN.

    Now we have much better alternatives on the right (Beck, Hinkel), so Lahm should stay on the left, his strongest, side. q.e.d.!
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:56 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:WHAT? That's not true Allez, you have been hanging around with Dutchies too much it seems, stop lying! Laughing

    At the end of the day everybody wants to be hanging around with the Dutchies. Ale
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:07 pm

    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:
    At the end of the day everybody wants to be hanging around with the Dutchies. Ale

    True, those bicycles might come in handy.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:57 pm

    It IS true Blut. Back in the glory days of qualification for Euro 2008, around the time when Lahm/Jansen was officially taking over as the status quo from Friedrich or Fritz and Lahm (this may have started as far back as March 2007 around the time of the Prague game, but certainly continued for a good while after that), you insisted this was the right way to go, as this guaranteed width from the full-backs necessary in the team's 4-4-2 system. I actually tried to argue with this a bit as I said that in practice Lahm had often been more effective on the left, cutting in and all that, but you weren't having any of it.

    Now I'm not good at archive/search thingies, but if anyone's capable of searching back on the Mannschaft thread round about April 2007 or so, they'll see I'm right.

    Most uncharacteristically feminine of you to be changing your mind so regularly while pretending you didn't Blut Smile

    As for hanging round with Dutchies too much, well fuck it, so crucify me. I did indeed piss off all my German friends every much as I might have expected to with my bright orange RVP "A Dutch of Class" T-shirt t'other day Wink
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:00 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:
    As for hanging round with Dutchies too much, well fuck it, so crucify me. I did indeed piss off all my German friends every much as I might have expected to with my bright orange RVP "A Dutch of Class" T-shirt t'other day Wink

    Very Happy

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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:00 pm

    interview with Heynckes

    http://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/article4396180/Heynckes-hat-Bayerns-Schwaeche-erwartet.html

    TOP TOP MAN

    he has a lot of sympathy for van Qual though

    what a brilliant move by Völler to get him Ale
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    Post by anglophileHedgehog Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:23 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:
    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:according to the Bild sources, VDV and Sneijder are NO options for Hoeness and Co

    Ulli is famously stubborn and might not want to cave in to media/fan pressure

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    the SQUAD is not the problem anyway

    it's what van Qual does with it

    still, two problems would be solved by buying Enke and HINKEL

    anglo would become a Bayern supporter and could marry Deisler Smile



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    Kahn bemoans the end of Bayern as a MANNSCHAFT

    and effectively has a go at Ribery and Co's EGOMANIA

    http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/25082009/73/bundesliga-king-kahn-watscht-bayern-profis.html

    Ale

    before Hoeness stops wanting to convert Bayern into the FC Ribery, it will be difficult to turn the ship around

    Brilliant! Ale lol!
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:16 pm

    Allez, as I've explained to you numerous times, the reason why I wanted Lahm to play on the right back then was Jansen, who was looking great in the Euro qualification. I wanted to get rid of Arne Friedrich as RB for good, I wanted two attacking fullbacks to provide width in our indeed rather narrow 4-2-2-2 system, I wanted us to be less one-sided and predictable, and I was (and still am) right about that!

    It was not because I believe Lahm to be more effective on the right, I was fully aware of him being more of a threat when he could cut in from the left, give us those typical one-twos with Schweini or whoever played on his side. I was fully aware that he could and still can cross pretty decently with his weaker left foot. I had quite a few discussions with Leonardo and others about this actually, those who believed him to be better on the right due to his stronger right foot. But similar to Schweinsteiger, another right footed player, it seems to be easier for him to go past players on the left. The only reason why Lahm himself prefers the right side is that it seems to be easier for him to defend on the right, at least in theory. In reality he is worse at both on the right, attacking and defending. But still, Lahm at RB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arne Friedrich at RB. PERIOD.

    Allez, your propaganda trait is worrying. It seems you wore that hideous T-shirt a bit too long. Would be a real pity to lose you to the dark side, too!
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:36 am

    2 Van Gaal sidesteps:

    1. Bayern is now driectly reachable in the club submenu of Holland's most populair footy website vi:

    http://www.vi.nl/Teams/Zoek-team.htm

    Mainly for those into Schadenfreude about Van Gaal, Bayern & both. So me too. Ale

    2. Van Gaal - like I predicted - is playing Lahm on the right. How's he doing so far?

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    If he gets sacked, I predict the 1st game after Hallenfussball. Still fear it could turn out wrong, i.e. become a success. Van Gaal at Bayern that is.

    & I do not believe van Gaal wanted Gomez. Would be very untypical.
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    Post by Lesley Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:10 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:the SQUAD is not the problem anyway

    Good one. So, last season the squad was not the problem, it was the devil Klinsmann. And this season the squad ain't the problem either, even though they still have major problems with the goalie and the defense.

    So, what IS the problem then? Always the coach? That's a little too easy, Otto, even for you.

    As for Lahm: OF COURSE he is better on the left. Tsk.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:22 pm

    Blütlein no need to get so emphatic, the only thing we disagree on is how to represent your earlier views, and for an objective take on these we'd need some talented geek to trawl back through the Mannschaft thread. (I trust you would be better at this than me Razz) For the moment I will accept your excuse that it was "only under exceptional circumstances", though that's not how it seemed at the time Wink

    Dear oh dear, wo hab ich mich denn "Propaganda" schuldig gemacht??

    And it's a lovely T-shirt you bellend.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:36 pm

    The only thing we disagree on is your propganda twist of facts, which may have a lot to do with wearing that HORRENDOUS piece of fabric for too long indeed! Very Happy
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:37 pm

    Fey wrote:
    MadVillain™️ wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:If van Gaal chose UEFA Cup standard mediocrity like Tymoschuk, Gomez and Olic then sack him now.

    If not - give him time as it can't be easy when you inherit UEFA Cup standard mediocrity like Lahm, Klose and Toni.

    agree with all bar Lahm. He's better than that. Olic is a left-footed Kuyt, Benitez should sign him up Ale

    lol!

    Like Spurs is the pinnacle for purists now? Fuck off! You play with Huddletenstone ffs!

    Bloody hell Fey, 'twas a complement my good man!

    You're so sensitive aout anything regarding Dirky Smiley
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    Post by Lesley Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:35 pm

    Does that mean Kuyt can't play football either? Just....with his right foot?
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:15 am

    fuck

    apparently, Bayern will sign and present Robben THIS week

    Yikes

    he cannot play as a number 10 and neither can Ribery

    since Ribery cannot play on the right, you could have him on the left and Robben on the right

    so where would Schweini play ?

    and what about Olic, Bayern's best player at the moment ?

    will vG finally switch to a 433 ?

    and where will that leave Klose, Olic, Toni ?

    STUPID MOVE Doh
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    Post by DD Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:19 am

    Dear Ottolein,

    how long will you keep this up? Unless ol' Louis gets 2 points from 8 games, I just don't see how he won't be 'allowed' to finish this season.

    Just saying, It could be a long haul for you Ale . Better prepare to to stay at the forefront of this revolution for at least another 9-10 months. If not at least 2 seasons.

    WG Ale
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    Post by Lesley Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:24 am

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    Post by fcb Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:32 am

    I don't get it...T-Mobile ad?
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:43 am

    DD wrote:Dear Ottolein,

    how long will you keep this up? Unless ol' Louis gets 2 points from 8 games, I just don't see how he won't be 'allowed' to finish this season.

    Just saying, It could be a long haul for you Ale . Better prepare to to stay at the forefront of this revolution for at least another 9-10 months. If not at least 2 seasons.

    WG Ale

    agree

    they will not and frankly cannot sack vG any time soon

    Hoeness and Dummenigge might as well resign

    but the pressure on vG and the two Trottel is getting VERY BIG

    all the big guns are taking aim already: Kahn, Effenberg, Netzer, Beckenbauer, Lattek, soon to be joined by Loddar and increasingly well-organised fans on the Internet

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    so far vG was PRETTY BAD

    I have seen him in THREE public training sessions

    the first one was excellent; the other two were the WORST I have yet seen

    (I might report in more detail later)

    vG has two allies (the two TROTTEL on the board)

    they need RESULTS though, otherwise they become UNTENABLE themselves

    vG HAS to understand that the LONG_TERM approach he clearly wants to take is NOT good enough at Bayern

    so far, he does NOT understand it

    +

    Hoeness and Dummenigge are Ribery FANS

    vG RIGHTLY is sceptical about the French DIVA and wants to CRACK THE WHIP

    if results are bad, the two Trottel will finish off vG as long as the Dutchie does not make the French c**t the centrepiece of his team

    I fear that is the Bretzn the Dutchie will choke to death on

    wahre fucking Geschichte
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    Post by anglophileHedgehog Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:01 am

    Ach Otto-lein, chill mal ein bisschen, wie man neudeutsch so sagt. Wink And savour the fact that Bayern are giving you more Vorlagen than you can verwandeln.

    PS: Watch out, I'll be in Munich over the weekend. Ale Biggrin
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    Post by Lesley Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:25 am

    kas wrote:I don't get it...T-Mobile ad?

    The picture is originally for a T-Mobile ad, but this "version" is from Titanic Magazine (German satirical magazine). It says...

    "Gender discussion in sport continues: all girls?"

    (a dig at the situation with Caster Semenya.)

    Wink
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    Post by SuperMario Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:08 pm

    Thanx for posting that Lesley realy made me laugh Ale

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