When will Bayern sack van Gaal ?

Our English friends of the Times have some good things to say about Bayern's new possession based philosophy brought in by van Gaal.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/european_football/article7086657.ece

(Just to annoy Otto a bit. )

On Tuesday there had been another demonstration of Spanish power — without any Spaniards involved. Bayern Munich are a Bavarian club drawing most of their players from northern Europe. Their manager is Dutch. Yet Louis van Gaal, like modern Barça, was moulded by the ideals of Johan Cruyff and Van Gaal is turning Bayern into better Barcelona imitators than are Arsenal. At the Allianz Arena, his team shocked Manchester United the Barça way, playing pass-show-receive to make United look impotent to an extent not seen since they received their own lesson from Xavi and Co in last year’s final. The impression, again, was of football moving towards a possession style best espoused by Barça and the Spanish, a trend leaving English clubs gasping.

Being out-passed by the continentals is a problem the English thought they had beaten but it’s back and to see it confront supposedly the best two “footballing” teams in the Premier League was sobering.

Perhaps as quickly as English pre-eminence in the Champions League arrived, it is over.

I damn hope so.

Interesting stat:

Barça, followed by Bayern, have the best passing stats in this season’s Champions League. In the table of who has made the most potential scoring chances, it’s Bayern followed by Barça.

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:

Yet Louis van Gaal, like modern Barça, was moulded by the ideals of Johan Cruyff

That journalist won't get a Christmas card from Louis

(Van Gaal and Cruijff hate each other's guts)

So, when will they sack him...?

Van Gaal out !!!

First Bayern coach to lose in Old Trafford. That's a fackin disgrace!

Should be sacked immediately!








PS Many congrats on reaching the semis

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:First Bayern coach to lose in Old Trafford. That's a fackin disgrace!

Should be sacked immediately!

Ah well I see there is still a slim cord where Otto can hang on with his theory Van Gaal must get all the blame for Bayern's terrible failure

Congrats for last night and your win at the weekend.

I think Otto started a similar thread on 606 about Wenger, before he went on to beat Real Madrid and Juve in the knockouts stages of the CL.

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:First Bayern coach to lose in Old Trafford. That's a fackin disgrace!

Should be sacked immediately!








PS Many congrats on reaching the semis

Another piece of genius from the SELF-PROCLAIMED oracle.

I did wonder back in the winter months whether I should've bet on Bayern Munich getting to the last 4 of the CL, just off the back of this thread - I could've won BIG CASH mes amis!

Wahre 2 da Muthafunkin' G

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:First Bayern coach to lose in Old Trafford. That's a fackin disgrace!

Should be sacked immediately!

anybody on here remember Klaus Toppmöller ?

the Leverkusen manager who HUMILIATED Liverpool, Arsenal and REal (even if Madrid won the final through a Zidane beauty)

well

Klaus now said that considering the quality of the Bayern SQUAD

compared to that of the other Bundesliga clubs

Munich should be AHEAD in the TABLE by at least

15 points



in other words

van Gaal is UNDERACHIEVING so BAD with the most expensive Bundesliga squad OF ALL TIME

it defies TEUTONIC belief



how the Dutchies on here come to the conclusion that van Gaal is doing a good job

is ANY German's guess



I suppose

by Dutch manager's standards (Rutten, Stevens, Rijkaard, van Basten, Marwijk...)

van Gaal does indeed come across as a GENIUS

The fact that Schteve McClaren is currently top of the pile in the Eredivisie with the dutch equivalent of Bolton surely says it all about the quality of dutch managers.

Tweesus wrote:The fact that Schteve McClaren is currently top of the pile in the Eredivisie with the dutch equivalent of Bolton surely says it all about the quality of dutch managers.

my sentiments EXACTLY



put the likes of Magath, Klopp, Henyckes, Hrubesch and Co in charge of a club like Groningen or Den Haag

and they would win the Eredivisie within TWO YEARS

AT THE LATEST

Ä wrote:anybody on here remember Klaus Toppmöller ?

the Leverkusen manager who HUMILIATED Liverpool, Arsenal and REal (even if Madrid won the final through a Zidane beauty)

I assume you are on about the 2001/02 season where it took a last minute Ulf Kirsten goal to salvage a draw for Leverkusen in their home fixture before going on to Highbury to be completely outclassed 4-1?

Ä wrote:

Klaus now said that considering the quality of the Bayern SQUAD

compared to that of the other Bundesliga clubs

Munich should be AHEAD in the TABLE by at least

15 points

Klaus sounds like a

SAF wrote:typical German manager

to me : utterly clueless.

Bayern has NO GOALIE, Bayern has NO DEFENSE !!!

This is clear to see for everybody.....sorry : for everybody except women and German managers....and I'm probably mistaken on the women.

To say this team should lead the table by 15 points, is about as stupid as a random Otto or Puro post.

Instead of having a go at Van Gaal, look inward first : the best of the new German managers Jürgen K. couldn't hack it wit this squad.

Tells us how seriously we should take German managers

Axeslammer wrote:

Instead of having a go at Van Gaal, look inward first : the best of the new German managers Jürgen K. couldn't hack it wit this squad.

thanks for mentioning Klinsi Grinsi

if you asked me to name the most clueless GERMAN manager of the last 10 years

my answer, without ANY hesitation

would be

Klinsi Grinsi

GOD

was the Californian WITLESS

in fact, please, axel

go back to my original SACK Klinsi THREAD

and READ through the player interviews

to get some idea of how poor Klinsi was

by the end of his reign, EVERY player HATED Klinsi

YET

even this Klinsi, NEARLY won the Bundesliga title with Bayern

he was VERY CLOSE



leading me to suggest that the "Supernanny" or a "Sanyo battery" would have done a better job



winning the Bundesliga title with Bayern says NOTHING about your managerial ability

NOTHING

it's like driving around the Nürburg Ring FASTER with a PORSCHE than a VW Polo

take the FIRST half of the game in Manchester

Bayern were a SHAMBLES

ZERO composure

ZERO of anything GOOD

in the second half they had a MAN MORE, and showed German SPIRIT

+

Robben and Olic produced some magic

NONE of this had ANYTHING to do with van Gaal

FOR me

van Gaal is amongst the THREE worst Bundesliga managers now

the other two being Slomka and Labbadia

good news on the van Gaal front

he now says

" IF we win the Triple, I will leave Bayern"

http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/bundesliga/vereine/fc-bayern-muenchen/2010/04/11/louis-van-gaal/wenn-wir-das-triple-holen-gehe-ich.html



the DUTCH REVOLUTION could be over before it has even begun



Bayern are HUGE favourites to win the Bundesliga and beat Werder in the Cup Final ANYWAY

and if they now collect UEFA coefficient points by winning the CL

I am all for it

even more, IF van Gaal leaves the VATERLAND with the next Caravan



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and yet again he CHOKED in the BUndesliga

a WIN over Leverkusen would have locked in the league TITLE

then

Hannover defeated Schalke in a MAJOR UPSET

and a few hours later Bayern had the chance of FINISHING the title race by an even bigger margin

so what do the van Gaal boys DO ?

they LOSE two points

against a Leverkusen that had lost their previous THREE games

and had ZERO CONFIDENCE

as seen by all the pre-match interviews



anyway

I DID not want Bayern to win the triple AT ALL

Leverkusen for the title, WErder for the Cup and Stuttgart for the CL would have been brilliant

but

if the Dutch NARCISSIST leaves afterwards

I will BUY it

here and now

Ä wrote:good news on the van Gaal front

he now says

" IF we win the Triple, I will leave Bayern"

http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/bundesliga/vereine/fc-bayern-muenchen/2010/04/11/louis-van-gaal/wenn-wir-das-triple-holen-gehe-ich.html



the DUTCH REVOLUTION could be over before it has even begun

After winning the treble, the orange revolution at Bayern could be over,

BUT

will Louis' mission in Germany be accomplished after that?

Certainly not, IMO.

Methinks, he then will strive for the ultimate honour of every coach in the world:

He will want to become our Bundestrainer.

And coincidentally, we most certainly will need a new Bundestrainer after the WC.



So,

1+1

= ?

LvG for Bundestrainer

is

INDEED

what the Dutchie is DREAMING of

he has repeated that RIDICULOUS idea MANY times in interviews now



and clearly wants to win the EUropean CUp in Poland

he knows he needs an AUTOMATIC CONTENDER like the MANNSCHAFT to have a shot

by now we Germans are used to soft SKIN though

could van Gaal really survive the Nivea-test and become a

BundesCREMER ?

+

I want to see him with a SCARF before I make up my mind about his suitability



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vG's team selections against Hannover were a JOKE

Lyon take a week long break and vG plays all the key players even when the game is in the bag

+

he deprives the players who will actually play in the CL of any serious match experience

a COMPLETE CLOWN

fortunately, for him

Leverkusen are now officially out of the title race

and only Schalke are still somewhat in contention

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+

van Gaal now told Dummeniggi that Bayern were the BEST club he had ever worked for



ie

better than Ajax, Barca....

and Robben's father tells Dummeniggi

that his son SHOULD have joined Bayern already THREE YEARS ago

such is the quality of the club/team/squad/set-up... at Bayern

compared to Real and Chelsea



this is TOO MUCH THOUGH

them Dutchies are SUFFOCATING us Teutons with their love



isn't there a book called

"Women who love too much" ?

well

one of us should now write

"Dutchies who love Germany too much"

the topic needs to get addressed

Otto you are right....

if they can earn more money tomorrow somewhere else they're in love with that particular club/country.

Dutch footballers/coaches are indeed just like women...

Look for instance at Mr. Dick headvocaat...

Otto,

Bayern coach now follows also another Dutch international: Ibrahim Afellay.

Is the conveyer belt Dutchies entereing the the once so great Bundesliga never ending?

Ä wrote:

van Gaal now told Dummeniggi that Bayern were the BEST club he had ever worked for



ie

better than Ajax, Barca....

and Robben's father tells Dummeniggi

that his son SHOULD have joined Bayern already THREE YEARS ago

such is the quality of the club/team/squad/set-up... at Bayern

compared to Real and Chelsea



this is TOO MUCH THOUGH

them Dutchies are SUFFOCATING us Teutons with their love



isn't there a book called

"Women who love too much" ?

well

one of us should now write

"Dutchies who love Germany too much"

the topic needs to get addressed

Ottoleinchen, Ottoleinchen...


DUTCHIES

can

SELL

ANYTHING

to

Germans

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:Otto,

Bayern coach now follows also another Dutch international: Ibrahim Afellay.

Is the conveyer belt Dutchies entereing the the once so great Bundesliga never ending?

well

let's wait and see

Brafheid is already gone after all

and

Elia at HSV was quickly kicked out of his favourite position on the left

by a GERMAN (aka Jansen)

Bayern urgently need a LEFT-BACK

they should get Marcel Schäfer

if you Dutchies have a WORLD CLASS player in THAT position, I can live with that

as for Affelay: WHERE would he play; or rather, whose place would he take ?

@ricardo AND axel

I do NOT think that van Gaal, Robben and Co just love Germany because of the MONEY

Ruud, van Bommel, Elia, Robben and Co could have earned MORE outside Germany

they love Germany because most German football fans/experts are IDIOTS

essentially

ANY Dutchie can do WHATEVER he likes in the Vaterland

and will get applauded for THAT

van Bommel because he is the ONLY German left in the Bundesliga

Robben because he can take penalties despite being surrounded by GERMANS

van der Vaart: because Hamburgers treated him as if he had been the best HSV player OF ALL TIME

van Gaal: because AT LONG LAST, his players OBEY HIM

and so it continues

GERMANY is PARADISE for a Dutchie

so, OF COURSE, Nederlanders will LOVE it

maybe YOU should think of moving here as well

the women are mostly feminists these days

but compared to your Dutch DRAGONS, our gals are PUSHYCATS

think about it

Ä wrote:

van Bommel because he is the ONLY German left in the Bundesliga

Robben because he can take penalties despite being surrounded by GERMANS

van Gaal: because AT LONG LAST, his players OBEY HIM

and so it continues

GERMANY is PARADISE for a Dutchie

Lol, you're often wrong.....but sometimes you're spot on

Bayern is starting to play that hideously ugly Van Gaal football : get him out now !!!

....or Die Bundesliga will never be the same...

fairly decent explanation for why Gomez or ANY OTHER "Mittelstürmer" will have a problem at van Gaal's Bayern

http://www.spox.com/myspox/blogdetail/M-Gomez---Torero-mit-Fussfesseln,78781.html

the truth is

Klose will 100% leave Bayern because van Gaal treats him like SHIT

and Gomez will stay ONE MORE year

then

he will LEAVE as well

because van Gaal treats him like SHIT

Ä wrote:

and Gomez will stay ONE MORE year

then

he will LEAVE as well

van Gaal treats him like SHIT, because he PLAYS LIKE SHIT

Excellent manager that LvG

Axeslammer wrote:

Ä wrote:

and Gomez will stay ONE MORE year

then

he will LEAVE as well

van Gaal treats him like SHIT, because he PLAYS LIKE SHIT

Excellent manager that LvG

Gomez just told bild that under vG he was "verkrampft" and lacking "Selbstbewusstsein"

van Gaal is DESTROYING the lad



only IDIOTS join Bayern though

Gomez only has himself to blame

van Gaal is ABSOLUTELY DREADFUL with ESTABLSHED players:

Lucio, Toni, Ribery, Klose, Gomez, Timo, Demichilis, Altintop...

at ANY OTHER club

alienating so MANY stars would have led to IMMEDIATE desaster

in fact, the OTHER manager currently doing the same is Labbadia at HSV

and the club is in melt-down

van Gaal is the personification of INCOMPETENCE

but gets away with it

because Bayern effectively have TWO teams

so if he DESTROYS the FIRST DREAM-team

who cares ?!

maybe the SECOND division still respond to him and are grateful for being given a chance

Overated hideous peado http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267201/Franck-Ribery-prostitution-probe-French-footballer-engulfed-sex-scandal.html

L r dd wrote:Overated hideous peado http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267201/Franck-Ribery-prostitution-probe-French-footballer-engulfed-sex-scandal.html

Let's not mention Karim Benzema, Sidney Govou and Hatem Ben Arfa. Oh wait, you didn't.

Paedo? Really? It seems she was probably close to 18. I think the term paedo is reserved for girls/boys that are a bit younger than that. (Unless you're in the US where an 18yr old having sex with a 17 yr old is considered a rapist.)

Anyway, shitty behavior from shitty people. And they're all religious too, aren't they? I never understand how people cheat on their wives and families just like that.

Effenberg wrote:

L r dd wrote:Overated hideous peado http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267201/Franck-Ribery-prostitution-probe-French-footballer-engulfed-sex-scandal.html

Let's not mention Karim Benzema, Sidney Govou and Hatem Ben Arfa. Oh wait, you didn't.

Paedo? Really? It seems she was probably close to 18. I think the term paedo is reserved for girls/boys that are a bit younger than that. (Unless you're in the US where an 18yr old having sex with a 17 yr old is considered a rapist.)

Anyway, shitty behavior from shitty people. And they're all religious too, aren't they? I never understand how people cheat on their wives and families just like that.

I just wanted to agree with you on on the religious matter when i remembered that being religious is the definition of peado/cheating nowadays
Ok thats a bit exaggerating here of course, but with all the recent happenings...

That's what happens when Nasri aint included in the fab four. He always brings the testosteron levels down.

Oh well at least another person that will say NAY to French players in the future!

They are no Van Rapist or Kluivert for sure