When will Bayern sack van Gaal ?

after the third defeat in a row, vG's job is now SERIOUSLY on the line

a 1:3 against Hannover

and completely outplayed as well

the teams have finally figured out how to defeat van Gaal's way too predictable system

nobody fears Bayern either anymore

and when the likes of Rangnick, Hummels, Pogatez... explain in great detail HOW you can beat Bayern, you know you are in trouble

will Dummenigge sack van Gaal TODAY though ??

usually , they do this on a Sunday

so we will know more in an hour or so

the problem is that no obvious replacement is in sight

Gerland, the INTERNAL option, would hardly be able to help turn the season around

Rangnick and Daum are "personae non grata"

which leaves SAMMER

who would be BRILLIANT

BUT

more a medium-term solution

IF he FAILS to turn around the season, he could very well be burnt for good

sticking with van Gaal does not seem to be an option either though

tough one

meanwhile, NETZER, one of the stupidest football "experts" in Christendom

savages the way the Bayern play

goes on to say he still thinks van Gaal is one of the top 4 managers in Europe

and believes he will still be in charge for the return game against Inter

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/2011/03/06/guenter-netzer/bayern-harmlos-ideenlos-leblos.html

Van Gaal raised expectations too much with the near-treble last season. A victim of his own success.

Deluded F*ck™ wrote:Van Gaal raised expectations too much with the near-treble last season. A victim of his own success.

Hm only to a certain degree.
I have no problem with winning no silverware this season. I like that there are always different teams winning things in Germany every other year. But not qualifying for the CL is not acceptable.
Also I don't understand why he changes the players positions so much and sometimes out of position. And not investing into a better defence.

Well it's obvious van Gaal kinda overestimated himself, considering it kinda depends if Robben is in form or not. But tbh he doesn't really have a good squad to work with.

IMO it has more to do with van Gaal as a person, which would make sense cause everyone knew an arrogant van Gaal and an arrogant Bayern management would create problems.

Van Gaal stays on until the end of the season according to Bild. New coach will replace him in the summer.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2011/03/07/louis-van-gaal/bayern-trainer-im-sommer-weg.html

I am going to miss Louis. He was pure comedy gold.

I don't hate Bayern enough to wish Jol upon them

VERY RISKY to keep van Gaal until the end of the season

VERY

the guy does not have the foggiest what to do NEXT

and Klopp/Heynckes/Slomka CLEARLY do

this could EASILY mean Bayern do NOT qualify for next year's CL

maybe Bayern should ask the Swiss FA to allow Hitzfeld to step in in the meantime

seems Bayern already have a replacement

HEYNCKES

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1103/Artikel/trainer-louis-van-gaal-erhaelt-neue-chance-beim-fc-bayern-muenchen.html

VERY GOOD choice

a win-win situation for everybody

Jupp knows what he is doing + he is BIG buddies with Hoeness

so

no meddling needed

also

Leverkusen will then be rid of Jupp who is now DESTROYING Ballack's career (together with the media)

somebody like Sammer or Daum would PLAY Bally though

a VERY elegant solution for everybody involved

Bayern Munich 'keep calm and carry on' with lame duck Louis van Gaal
Struggling Bundesliga champions appear to be stuck with an arrogant and stubborn manager no one wants
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It's a mark of a true genius that he's always right – even when he's hopelessly wrong. "It's not easy to fire Van Gaal," Louis van Gaal had predicted on Friday, "the question who will follow is a very difficult one to answer."

The Bayern Munich president, Uli Hoeness, the chief executive, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, chief financial officer, Karl Hopfner, and the sporting director, Christian Nerlinger, took five and a half hours trying to find a solution to the conundrum on Sunday. All short and long-term measures were discussed and discarded as either impractical or undesirable. The best they could come up with was "keep calm and carry on".

On Monday, it was announced that the Dutchman would be allowed to stay in the job until the end of the season.

It was a remarkable turnaround in the space of less than 48 hours and a curious decision in more ways than one. Internally, Van Gaal's dismissal if they were to lose at Hannover on Saturday had been seen as a given, especially since Hoeness had explicitly threatened that very move over a month ago.

"If qualification for the Champions League is in danger, I get nervous," Hoeness had said, "that was the case with Jürgen Klinsmann, too". The manager-impersonator from Huntington Beach, California, was fired when Bayern slipped to third in the spring of 2009.

The champions' 3-1 defeat at Hannover, the third in a row after a 3-1 reverse to Dortmund and crashing out of the German Cup (2-0 v Schalke), saw them slide to fifth. No Bayern manager could have been expected to be forgiven for such a run, least of all Van Gaal, whose stubbornness has long cost him the support of Hoeness. "We have to act, not talk," was all the president would say on his way out of the stadium on Saturday evening.

The fact that "Mr Bayern" did not get his way the next day points to a power shift. Rummenigge, nick named "Killer-Kalle" for his ruthless, heartless demeanour, seems to have grown into a much more rational, conciliatory figure and has managed to push through an unlikely compromise.

Bayern must have dismissed fears of a lame duck scenario in light of challenges that are surely big enough (Champions League second leg against Internazionale and the fight for third place) to keep the players motivated.

There is, however, an interesting question about the relationship between Van Gaal and his players. Captain Philipp Lahm reportedly told Nerlinger that the team were still behind the manager, broadly speaking, but Bayern's chaotic performances have raised doubts within the dressing room.

The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper summed up the charge sheet perfectly: "Van Gaal is dogmatic without a plan B … Now that explanations for the weakness of Bayern's season [World Cup tiredness, Arjen Robben's injury] are no longer valid, he's at the centre of criticism. Why did he refuse to invest in defensive players [in the summer]? Why the constant positional changes? Why is he not interested in practising defensive dead-ball situations?"

Even his staunchest defenders will have noticed that a certain arrogance has crept into his decisions. In the last few weeks, Van Gaal was moving players across the pitch like pawns on a chessboard. Gustavo was not the only one to play in three different positions in one game.

The football professor was convinced his 4-2-3-1 system was so perfect that the personnel did not matter. Sadly, the opposite is true: Bayern's style has become so entrenched and predictable that more and more teams are able to take the appropriate measures. To make matters worse – much worse – the high priest of possession football from Amsterdam has not shown any inclination to develop a defensive methodology worthy of the name.

Can he adapt, can he change his ways in time to ward off total collapse – a defeat to Inter and a Bundesliga finish outside the top three? Bayern clearly feel that sticking with him is the lesser risk. "He has certainly made mistakes," the Bayern icon Franz Beckenbauer said. "But he's also shown that he's a great coach. I prefer him to any emergency solutions."

Maybe but his continued employment can also be seen in a different way: it's a testament to the sheer size of the crisis.

Talking Points

• Dortmund remain firmly on course for the title but they are not exactly champions of efficiency. Robert Lewandowski's goal was scant reward for 90 minutes of dominance against Cologne. The home side had more scoring opportunities than some teams create in a season. Michael Rensing was inspired in the visitors' goal while Jürgen Klopp's men need only five more wins to claim the "salad bowl".

• Felix Magath's love for unusual glasses is well documented but this week he took it to a new level. On Friday, the Schalke manager borrowed sport shades from the team's bus driver (model: Adidas Evil Eye) to hide an infection and he followed that up for the match at Stuttgart on Saturday with a black number that was equal parts Dr Octopus and Belarussian village pimp.

The referee Dr Felix Brych was not intimidated. He sent off Benedikt Höwedes for handball in the box and awarded a penalty that Zdravko Kuzmanovic converted. Brych had not spotted Pavel Pogrebniak's push on Höwedes beforehand.

Magath called the referee "irresponsible" and even the Stuttgart manager, Bruno Labbadia, felt the red card for the defender had been unnecessary. The decision might strengthen the German FA's case for a rule change but it will not help Magath deflect too much attention from Schalke's slide and the increasing discontent with his work within the club. "Magath out!" shouts in the stands led to reports that the board are planning to get rid of him at the end of the season, success in the German Cup and the Champions League notwithstanding.

• Eintracht Frankfurt's unspeakably bad form since the winter break – not a single goal in eight games – has coach Michael Skibbe looking over his shoulder, too. The Frankfurter Rundschau newspaper felt that the goalless draw with Kaiserslautern was "the worst performance of the season and in many years". The game was so poor that even the TV highlights package was unwatchable. "I'm sorry for looking clueless – I am not," Skibbe said. This week's trip to Schalke might be his last game in charge.

• Bayer Leverkusen, easy 3-0 winners over the increasingly dishevelled Wolfsburg, experienced managerial trouble of a different sort. Jupp Heynckes's continued refusal to sign a new contract – his deal expires in June – is now seen in a worrying light. The 65-year-old did not only crop up on the shortlist of possible Van Gaal successors but might also force Bayer into making an uncomfortable choice between his services and those of Michael Ballack.

The 34-year-old was hoping to get a chance to impress Germany manager Jogi Löw on Saturday but withdrew from the squad when Henyckes told him he would not start. According to the manager, Ballack argued he would be better off training instead.

The move did not go down well with his team-mates – Bayer had only four substitutes available – and the dispute threatens to overshadow Bayer's excellent run in the league, where they are on course for a Champions League place.

"Heynckes, a man who values harmony, is unsure what to make of Ballack," writes Kicker. "He has a problem with Ballack's self-image and sees a danger to the peace and quiet he needs to work with his team." Bild thinks the two parties are heading for a divorce.

• "Babak Rafati," the Sky Germany reporter revealed, "was voted worst official by the players last season." It was interesting to hear about the existence of this "wooden whistle" award but no one will have been taken aback by the identity of its recipient.

The 40-year-old Rafati's continued appointments are one of the great mysteries of German football, along with Löw's always inch-perfect, never changing, pitch black barnet and "sporting director" Horst Heldt's exact duties at Schalke.

On Sunday, Rafati managed to award a goal when a shot by Hamburg's Marcell Jansen's hit the crossbar and bounced down well in front of the line. Hamburg went on to crash to a 4-2 home defeat against Mainz, a result that hampers their European ambitions. Later that evening, the club's board decided not to renew the contract of chief executive Bernd Hoffmann. The 47-year-old will leave at the end of the year.

• Nuremberg's 5-0 win over St Pauli has them dreaming of the Europa League and 45,000 fans stayed behind to celebrate the victory with the squad. The stand-in striker Christian Eigler was the man of the match with four goals but the whole team have excelled. "We need five more points to get to our second half of the season target," said manager Dieter Hecking, "then we can deal with other topics." In a season where the natural distinction between big and small clubs is rapidly vanishing, Nuremberg are about to spring the biggest surprise of all.

Results: Dortmund 1 Cologne 0; Stuttgart 0 Schalke 1; Eintracht Frankfurt 0 Kaiserslautern 0; Borussia Mönchengladbach 2 Hoffenheim 0; Hannover 3 Bayern Munich 1; Nuremberg 5 St Pauli 0; Bayer Leverkusen 3 Wolfsburg 0; Freiburg 1 Werder Bremen 3; Hamburg 2 Mainz 4.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/mar/07/bayern-munich-louis-van-gaal-bundesliga

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Deluded Fuck: Agree to a very slight extent, but the main problem with v. Gaal was his vetoing of signings in the summer - a decision which has gone badly wrong and put him into yet more conflict with the board. And then his often bizarre and inexplicable tactical decisions, especially with players being pushed into positions they shouldn't be used in. It really is a huge clash of egos between v. Gaal and some of the Bayern board. It will certainly be less entertaining for them to have a manager who has a little humility. I agree with Otto though, it's very dangerous having a manager in place who knows he is going. It throws the dynamics within the club into even further disarray. If Bayern continue to under-perform I wouldn't be surprised to see this particular compromise revised.

now that Bayern have FAILED to reach the LAST 8 in the CL as well

(the Bundesliga title is long gone and Schalke kicked them out in the DFB Pokal)

the current season will enter club history as one of the WORST of ALL TIME

arguably, THE WORST, when you factor in how MUCH money the club has spent compared to the main competition



the Dutchies on here seem to believe that the only reason for van Gaal's lack of success was that the board did not grant him FULL control

well

the truth is, there are probably 1001 reasons why vG DID not HACK it, and the board has NOTHING to do with it

his man-management is AWFUL

he is tactically inept and one-dimensional

his transfer policy is a JOKE

...

I am now SERIOUSLY unsure of where I want Bayern to finish THIS season

on the one hand they HAVE to reach the top 3 to make the CL

the BUNDESLIGA urgently NEEDS Bayern

although, a tie like Hannover vs Barca would have HUGE comedy value for our international friends

then again

Rummenigge stubbornly sticking to van Gaal when EVERYBODY knows the Dutchie will STRUGGLE to reach CL ranks smacks of an almost unspeakable ARROGANCE of INCOMPETENCE

so really, Bayern DESERVE to crash

still

how somebody can ALMOST win the TRIPLE last season and then go on to REACH the lowest LOW of club history is something only our expert DUTCHIES can explain

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2011/03/17/bayern-stars/gehen-aufeinander-los.html

by the end of the season, the Bayern myth will be destroyed for the next years, me thinks

vG has left a team

IN TATTERS

Ä wrote:http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2011/03/17/bayern-stars/gehen-aufeinander-los.html

by the end of the season, the Bayern myth will be destroyed for the next years, me thinks

vG has left a team

IN TATTERS

Van Gaal won the title, the cup and was the second best team in Europe....with a seriously crap and unbalanced selection (for which the board was to blame).

During his first season Rumenigge, Beckenbauer, Hoeness and the other Germans all knew their place : they let him operate and kindly shut up.

This season however, those Germans in the staff are causing all kinds of troubles off the pitch....and look at the results.

Germans

axel

it gets WORSE

now STOICHKOV SAVAGES vG

12.10 Uhr: Hristo Stoichkow ledert in einem Interview mit "Paalga Observateur" (Zeitung in Burkina Faso) ordentlich gegen Louis van Gaal. Auf die Frage, was das Schlechteste war, was er im Fußball erlebt hat, sagte der 45-Jährige:

"Mein Kampf mit Louis van Gaal.

Ich glaube, dieser Mann ist dumm und lächerlich.

Er weiß nichts und ich habe nichts von ihm gelernt."

Stoichkow und van Gaal eint eine gemeinsame Zeit beim FC Barcelona Ende der 90er Jahre. Warum ein Interview in Burkina Faso? Stoichkow ist Repräsentant der Welternährungsorganisation und ist derzeit vor Ort

Bertie VOGTS now ridicules van Gaal and Dutch football expertise

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/newspage_369425.html

There are some rumours that Van Gaal will become the next Juve coach this summer...

That might give Inter opportunity to "bore" him a few more times

Ä wrote:Bertie VOGTS now ridicules van Gaal and Dutch football expertise

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/newspage_369425.html

Vogts has got some cheek.

Scotland

I presume Berti Vogts is having a good time in his glass house.

Still think a treble allows at one disappointing season.

Hlebagone wrote:I presume Berti Vogts is having a good time in his glass house.

Still think a treble allows at one disappointing season.

He couldn't do a treble....

Deluded F*ck wrote:

Ä wrote:Bertie VOGTS now ridicules van Gaal and Dutch football expertise

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/newspage_369425.html

Vogts has got some cheek.

Scotland

Vogts

Deluded F*ck wrote:

Ä wrote:Bertie VOGTS now ridicules van Gaal and Dutch football expertise

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/newspage_369425.html

Vogts has got some cheek.

Scotland

but Vogts is RIGHT

van Gaal and his Dutch cohorts are CLUELESS CLOWNS

Vogts points out that they know nothing about DEFENSE , which is why they never win anything

he also ridicules vG's habit of bringing on van Buyten as a game-changer towards the end of games

the Belgian is regularly used to score a HEADER in the dying minutes

Vogts thinks tricks like that are only used by 5-th league coaches

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there is a good interview with Schweini in the current Stern

he clearly likes van Gaal and regrets seeing the Nederlander leave but also admits that they had become tactically suicidal

"when we are 2:1 up, we still push for the third goal and promptly concede ourselves. defensively, we are just too naive"

Lahm also bemoans that they never really trained DEFENSE, even when their backline started leaking goals

it was all about possession , but van Gaal never trained "Spiel OHNE Ball" ( what they had to do when the opponent had the ball)

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Heynckes is now said to want a LESS STATIC Bayern; Ribery and Robben will be more free and allowed to switch sides/positions

he will also train set-pieces more

and build the team FROM THE BACK

but really, IF he plays Robbery at the same time, as is likely, Klose HAS to leave

Hoeness is already making noises in that direction

" BEFORE we even start negotiating about a contract extension , Klose has to agree to a substantial SALARY CUT"

which really means

PISS OFF

today's papers mention three clubs that want to sign Klose

JUVE

Benfica

and

SPURS

fuck

bernd and TS could SOON start THREADS

" WHY has NOBODY told us Klose was such a MONSTER ? We had NO IDEA"



in which case

SOMEBODY on here "could" bump a few MONSTER THREADS, me thinks



children will then point out that those OLD THREADS were YEARS TOO EARLY



and

pierre

will become suspiciously QUIET after seeing Klose OUTPACE Vidic

You missed out the fact that if said event happens (I know I've said this before) I will personally devour my own bellend.

KLOSE joining SPURS would undoubtedly be the best news of the Summer...

van Gaal is finally sacked with IMMEDIATE effect, according to most media

of course, Bayern had already kicked him out some time ago but wanted to allow him to repair what he had destroyed and assure at least 3rd spot ( ie CL qualification HIMSELF ) and thereby walk out through the FRONT DOOR

but after last weekend's dreadful display (which still got them 3 points though) and yesterday's DRAW against Nürnberg (with Hannover defeating Mainz and thereby moving past Bayern to re-clinch THIRD spot )

Bayern had NO CHOICE

van Gaal clearly is neither motivated anymore , or, he no longer reaches the players, or he is as clueless as he always was

but

has run out of his run of SHEER LUCK

anyway

BIZARRELY

Dummenigge and Hoeness seem to have asked van Gaal ASSISTANT

Jonkers

to take over

the truth is

Jonkers was in charge of all TRAINING at Säbener Strasse ALREADY

he is THE RIGHT HAND of van Gaal

so what's the POINT

he is hardly a MOTIVATOR after all

maybe the Bayern bosses think van Gaal was blocking the players MENTALLY

still

also rather bizarre

Bayern SACK

with IMMEDIATE effect

van Gaal's OTHER Dutch assistants

the "celebrated" goalie coach, responsible for promoting Kraft to FIRST goalie

yesterday, Kraft produced TWO howlers , one of which led to the equaliser

ie

the idea of kicking out the utterly FLAWLESS Butt was a complete JOKE

the Dutch VIDEO-analyst ALSO has to go

also the PHYSIO

the Jonkers+Gerland deal still has to be confirmed, of course

who knows

maybe Dummenigge will do what I had predicted EONS ago

hire HIDDINK

the lad was watching Bayern vs Nürnberg yesterday; then again, Ekici will now play for Turkey, Alintop is also part of the squad and Gündogan is still a Turkish possibility

STILL

until the end of the BUndesliga season, Turkey have no further games to play

he could EASILY slot in to SAVE Bayern , if the Turkish FA give permission

WATCH THIS SPACE

what a nonsense to keep jonker

maybe the board believes that the vangaal sysstem needs a coach which understands it

but wtf the germans play complete different football for germany, also robben

what were the options for Hoeness and Dummenigge ?

they HAD to sack van Gaal

in fact, they waited FAR TOO LONG

but who would take over NOW ?

Sammer won't go near the suicide mission, neither probably Hiddink, me thinks

Rehagel COULD do it, but they won't ask him

Scholl was USELESS as Amateur trainer and Gerland is about to get relegated with his team

so they picked Jonkers in the hope that van Gaal's departure will free the players mentally

the Dutch physio was also HUGELY unpopular with the players because they saw him as a van Gaal SPY, apparently

the similarities to Schalke under Magath is quite obvious

so who knows, it could work

then again, one of the biggest problems is that the ROBBERY system no longer works

EVERYBODY now knows how to neutralise it; and they all say so PUBLICLY

just mark Robbery out of the game, either by "doubling" them as Hecking calls it, or playing an aggressive "pressing game", and they collapse

it took most Bundesliga clubs a season to figure this out

but now EVERYBODY gives/gave van Gaal LESSONS in public ( Hummels, Pogatetz, Rangnick, Klopp, Hecking...)

Heynckes idea, also once proposed by Hitzfeld, me thinks, of allowing Ribery and Robben to switch sides as they please, would be an idea to make the Bayern play less static, but van Gaal was a FIXED system FANATIC

also, Bayern HAVE to sort out the BACK, and TRAIN how to defend when they LOSE the ball ( which they never did, according to Lahm)

maybe Jonkers understands this but was never allowed by the rather stubborn van Gaal

anyway

personally, I think the "let Robbery win the game" tactic no longer works

GET RID OF IT

+

when you have TWO of the best FIVE strikers in the world in your squad (Klose and Gomez)

USE THEM

Alintop is also EXCELLENT on the wings

so this is how I would SAVE Bayern now

----------------Klose-Gomez

--------------------Müller

Ribery-----------------------------Alintop

-----------------Schweini

Gustavo-van Buyten-Breno-Lahm

---------------Butt

who knows, maybe Bayern could still win the BUNDESLIGA

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Hoeness now

"die SCHEISSE fing mit Butt an"

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/louis-van-gaal/musste-wegen-torwart-wechsel-gehen-17351550.bild.html

That lineup is a joke right? A 4-4-2 diamond with half a defensive midfielder and pretty much no one who can defend?

Why are you wearing a Northern Irish choker with a silly haircut Otto? Have you been a silly boy again?

van Gaal is finally GONE

and Bayern PROMPTLY defeat

Vizekusen

5:1



with vG's arch-enemy GOMEZ scoring a HAT-TRICK



and look

they look SO SAD that van Gaal is back in in the Lowlands

Robben confirms that towards the end of the van Gaal era

ANGST

ruled the locker-room/training ground

the SPASS (fun) had gone

and IMMEDIATELY came back when the megalomaniac was gone

sounds similar to to Schalke under Magath

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Butt now has a go at van Gaal

saying Bayern were looking for a manager who would bring a new LINE (philosophy ) to the club

NOT

somebody who was trying to TAKE Bayern OVER

he also points out that the goalie changes just fucked up defensive stability

http://www.bild.de/sport/startseite/sport/telegramm-15873394,textId=17537490.bild.html

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meanwhile, we now know that Kraft's appalling howler against Nürnberg ( I think), where he left the penalty area and tried to CHIP the ball over the approaching attacker to Lahm ( ? )

was 100% what van Gaal had TAUGHT and TRAINED Kraft to do at Säbener Strasse



at a time when EVERYBODY was calling for more defensive stability, van Gaal was giving Kraft training instructions to CHIP the ball over the attacker



at one point, this complete lunacy drove Lahm NUTS

the SLIMER NEVER says or shouts ANYTHING in training, he is 100% quiet

yet, when Kraft pulled this CHIPPING nonsense , following clear DUTCH instructions, Lahm LOST it and told Kraft off

STOP it, he shouted



at which point van Gaal INTERVENED and told Lahm to ZIP it

Kraft was now merely becoming a MITSPIELENDER Torhüter



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meanwhile, Kahn criticizes Schweini in Sportbild

Schweini does not like getting whistled and now complained PUBLICLY that he did not HAVE to play in GERMANY

almost like since he had FOREIGN options the fans just should be GRATEFUL



Kahn thinks Schweini should GET REAL

then

the TITAN ridicules the comatose nature of our FEMINISED players

saying , at Bayern the players are now SO QUIET on the pitch , you cannot HEAR anything

in a clear dig at Lahm but mostly LÖW he ridicules this obsession with STATS and SCIENCE saying that there might be statistical evidence which suggests that the "quieter , the more successful"

lol vangaal totally lost the plot if this KRAFT has to chip the ball stuff is true

what a nutter, nowdays i realize how shit this coach really was

Kroos wrote:lol vangaal totally lost the plot if this KRAFT has to chip the ball stuff is true

what a nutter, nowdays i realize how shit this coach really was

yep

van Gaal really is a rather shitty coach

reaching the CL final was mostly LUCK+Robben

still, the Dutchie has a lot of credit left amongst quite a few Bayern fans for reaching the CL + standing up to Hoeness

the QUESTION now is what van Gaal's LEGACY at Bayern will be ??

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the slimer is at it again now

savaging van Gaal

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/philipp-lahm/spricht-ueber-einen-moeglichen-wechsel-von-manuel-neuer-17524582.bild.html



when the Nederlander was still in charge, Lahm said the EXACT opposite



der Schleimer würde seine Mutti für ne Milchschnitte verscherbeln



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more from Butt

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1104/News/bayern-muenchen-joerg-butt-spricht-ueber-ex-coach-louis-van-gaal.html