The
question raised is: "Is football art?" Wenger's eyes flash as he warms
to the theme. "I believe that anything in life, if it is really well
done, becomes art," he says. "If you read a great writer, he touches
deep inside and helps you to discover something about life. Life
is important on a daily basis because you transform it — you try to
transform it — into something that is close to art. And football is
like that. When I see Barcelona, to me it is art."
But
is there sometimes a conflict between aesthetics and success? Are there
times when Arsenal have created great art on the pitch but at the
expense of results? "I agree with you," Wenger says, "but at the end of
the day, I ask you: who is the most successful team in the world?
Brazil. What do they play? Good football. Who won everything last year?
Barcelona. What do they play? Lovely football. I am not against being
pragmatic because to be pragmatic is to make a good pass, not a bad
pass. It is as simple as that."
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wenger "barcelona is art"
Hem fet un..- Number of posts : 801
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So no Cesc for sure... Pep said that he wouldnt be coming which I dont think surprises anybody to be honest. Also Henrique is apparently an interesting player but not good enough yet according to Pep.
TITO- Number of posts : 3155
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What about these new reports regarding Cicinho????
Are we so desperate to sign a RB so we are going for anybody???
Are we so desperate to sign a RB so we are going for anybody???
Hem fet un..- Number of posts : 801
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I think the papers are just bored.. however, it would make sense to bring in a real RB as a backup since Puyol is much more valuable in the central defence. Still I would prefer us to sign either a left winger or a central midfielder..
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Valdés, Pinto,
Alves, Maxwell, Abidal, Puyol, Piqué, Fontàs, Muniesa,
Touré, Keita, Xavi, Gudjohnsen, Busquets, Jonathan
Bojan, Pedro, Jeffren, Henry
Alves, Maxwell, Abidal, Puyol, Piqué, Fontàs, Muniesa,
Touré, Keita, Xavi, Gudjohnsen, Busquets, Jonathan
Bojan, Pedro, Jeffren, Henry
Black Magic- Number of posts : 7514
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Cicinho is quality, absolutely world class. Don't look at us loaning in a young boy from Udinese in the middle of the season at RB as a sign of Cici's lack of competence.
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Judging by Guardiola's most recent comments I'm pretty sure we won't sign shit players like Cicinho or Eboue.
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I always thought Cicinho was a decent player. Not first XI but better than what we have at RB replacement except for Puyol. Puyol can't play everywhere at the same time though.
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Barca atletic, won the 3rd straight preseason game today, thiago and gai were the best players on the pitch
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toon h wrote:I always thought Cicinho was a decent player. Not first XI but better than what we have at RB replacement except for Puyol. Puyol can't play everywhere at the same time though.
If Alves and Marquez are out, then I'm entirely comfortable with putting Puyol at RB and Muniesa at CB. Depending on personnel in midfield, Toure is another option. Against weaker opposition, even Fontas can play there.
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from what I have seen from Muniesa I am not overly concerned about the defensive cover. We have indeed plenty of options. Injuries elsewhere (wide forwards or 3/4 players) IS a real concern.
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toon h wrote:I always thought Cicinho was a decent player. Not first XI but better than what we have at RB replacement except for Puyol. Puyol can't play everywhere at the same time though.
Good footballer, shit defender. Hope you sign Eboue!
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You boys ready for a hammering on wednesday ? 6-0 city !
Seriously though will be nice to watch, i expect us to rotate the team and give a lot of players a run out, will be nice for a lot fo the lads to play in the nou camp and for Ireland to upstage Messi
Its going ot be shown live through our website just to let you know, if your based in the UK.
Seriously though will be nice to watch, i expect us to rotate the team and give a lot of players a run out, will be nice for a lot fo the lads to play in the nou camp and for Ireland to upstage Messi
Its going ot be shown live through our website just to let you know, if your based in the UK.
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we will be wearing blue for this match, what is city's color is city's away kit.
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Yaya to play as attacking midfielder.
this explains why pep wanted masch, for those who didnt already know.
am happy to know that he sees these qualities in yaya, most coaches think big and black, yep he is a dmed, just like they are doing to mikel at chelsea, they boy should be playing further up the pitch.
Speaking
at a press conference, Barcelona manager Josep Guardiola has said that
he could change the position of Barcelona defensive midfielder Yaya
Touré (26):
"I
have the feeling he can play as attacking midfielder. He's very strong,
he can deal with a lack of space, he can be dangerous from outside the
area and when he goes forward, he does it with a lot of power.
I
would like to see him playing more in that position. Maybe I will put
him there in the Gamper game on Wednesday. I'm sure he would do well.
That way, we could give Xavi some rest."
this explains why pep wanted masch, for those who didnt already know.
am happy to know that he sees these qualities in yaya, most coaches think big and black, yep he is a dmed, just like they are doing to mikel at chelsea, they boy should be playing further up the pitch.
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Messiah wrote:we will be wearing blue for this match, what is city's color is city's away kit.
black
fcb- Number of posts : 40471
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Shortlist for backup RB, in no particular order:
Eboue (Arsenal)
Srna (Shakhtar)
Iraola (Athletic)
Azpilicueta (Osasuna)
Rafinha (Schalke)
Cicinho (Roma)
Jonas (Newcastle)
Grygera (Juventus)
I don't think I want any of them (don't know much about Grygera or Azpilicueta though).
Eboue (Arsenal)
Srna (Shakhtar)
Iraola (Athletic)
Azpilicueta (Osasuna)
Rafinha (Schalke)
Cicinho (Roma)
Jonas (Newcastle)
Grygera (Juventus)
I don't think I want any of them (don't know much about Grygera or Azpilicueta though).
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Messiah wrote:we will be wearing blue for this match, what is city's color is city's away kit.
Black or we could wear our third kit which is white.
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Srna > alves.
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I would take either Srna (but too expensive), Azpilicueta (looked good in last league considering his age) or Iraola (since he knows the league and the players). Rafinha could be nice but also expensive.
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srna isnt a player to be on the bench he is too good for that.
why dont we sign a more defensive RB, and have maxwell play on the left when rest alves.
ibra and messi has been given the green light to play in the gamper, and thiago and gai are training with the 1st team, i hope they get some minutes, its about time they started training with them, thiago is better than JDS and gai is better than jeffren and pedro.
why dont we sign a more defensive RB, and have maxwell play on the left when rest alves.
ibra and messi has been given the green light to play in the gamper, and thiago and gai are training with the 1st team, i hope they get some minutes, its about time they started training with them, thiago is better than JDS and gai is better than jeffren and pedro.
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Gay is 18, Pedro is 22 - that is a big difference in terms of readiness for the first team.
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just found out that sky no longer has the rights for la liga, as their 3 year contract from 06-09 is up, does anyone know who will pick up the rights are will sky get it back again.
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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Messiah wrote:just found out that sky no longer has the rights for la liga, as their 3 year contract from 06-09 is up, does anyone know who will pick up the rights are will sky get it back again.
Sky will never lose la liga with ronaldo and co going there. They'll outbid everyone.
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Messiah wrote:just found out that sky no longer has the rights for la liga, as their 3 year contract from 06-09 is up, does anyone know who will pick up the rights are will sky get it back again.
Sauce?
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TM wrote:Messiah wrote:just found out that sky no longer has the rights for la liga, as their 3 year contract from 06-09 is up, does anyone know who will pick up the rights are will sky get it back again.
Sauce?
on what if its fries then, yes some ketchup
source?, beast
http://www.techwatch.co.uk/2009/08/17/uk-rights-for-la-liga-still-up-for-grabs/
Hem fet un..- Number of posts : 801
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FFS Eboue didnt play tonight :S
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Hem fet un.. wrote:FFS Eboue didnt play tonight :S
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why the heck would we want Albert Riera?
Hem fet un..- Number of posts : 801
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I doubt that an ex Periko would want to join us anyways...As for Eboue, then we need to have Pep log on to a Gooner fansite..
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