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    Rooney is honest !

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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm

    Wayne Rooney does not want to get dragged into the diving debate and insists he is always 'honest' when he steps onto the football field.

    The Manchester United striker won and then converted a crucial penalty for his side in Saturday's 2-1 Old Trafford victory over Arsenal.

    England international Rooney was brought down by Gunners goalkeeper Manuel Almunia when the visitors were leading 1-0.

    While replays confirmed contact was made, there have been suggestions that the forward was already going to ground when he was caught by the Spaniard.

    But any allegation he cheated is something the 23-year-old strongly rejects.

    "Everyone who watches me play knows I am an honest player," he said. "I play the game as honestly as I can.

    "If the referee gives a penalty there is nothing you can do. It is a penalty.

    "If they want to take punishment further it is down to Uefa and the people who run the game. As players you just want to play."

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    Rooney believes the referee remains the best person to make a decision on all incidents and does not advocate any introduction of TV replays on contentious decisions.

    The former Everton man also feels that the problem is not increasing, but is simply being given greater coverage with the game under growing scrutiny.

    He added: "It is difficult to prove.

    "You see some that should not have been penalties but get given and others that are clear and do not.

    "The decisions are down to the referee. It is a difficult job but they do the best they can.

    "Diving has been in the game for years.

    "Probably the coverage the game gets now, with all the cameras around, it gets highlighted a bit more. But it hasn't got any worse."


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    Or is he just a hypocrite...






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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:23 pm

    U-Rooney Ale
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:25 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:U-Rooney Ale

    ? whats do you mean mate ?
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:26 pm

    I blame it on Maradonna.

    That hand in 1986 proved that to be considered a great player, you didn't need to be an honest one.

    The only truly honest player I can think of in my time was Stuart Pearce. So honest that he carried on playing with a broken leg when he was at West Ham because he didn't want to make a scene over nothing.

    To honesty Ale
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:U-Rooney Ale

    ? whats do you mean mate ?


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    Post by COTR Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:30 pm

    The blackburn dive is brilliant Smile


    Footballers are too thick to know when they are being hypocrites. I doubt they even know the meaning of the word. It isn't right to pick on them Goat
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:33 pm

    Serious question:

    When Ronaldo and Rooney played together at United, who CLEARLY dived more?

    Rooney has dived, but he's someway off a serial diver of the kind where the mere presence of a defender would put Ronaldo on his arse.

    Sometimes, it would actually better if Rooney just went down, rather than barging and charging around like a coked up lunatic and getting himself booked and sent off. And thus fucking up my fantay football points
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:37 pm

    Gerrard has dived so anything I say on the matter must be stricken from the record. It was strange watching a wide eyed Rooney saying he doesn't dive when it was only last season he was apologising for diving against Villareal.

    Once a blue always a blue Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:41 pm

    Avatar lol! lol! lol! lol!
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm

    An honest player would be one who faced with such a situation (keeper coming out, likely to dive at your feet) did not just try to get to the ball first and then go to ground. In this respect, Rooney is no more dishonest than any other player.

    The sad thing is that this means hardly any players actually try to take on the keeper anymore, at least in the EPL. But it isn't really any different to the midfielder who stands still, shields the ball, and falls over as soon as anyone runs into him with the slightest force. One might say it is all part of the modern game. Lots of the best players do it.
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:44 pm

    Spider Crouch wrote:Serious question:

    When Ronaldo and Rooney played together at United, who CLEARLY dived more?

    Arsenal players.
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    Post by debaser Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:45 pm

    Stimulus Package wrote:
    Spider Crouch wrote:Serious question:

    When Ronaldo and Rooney played together at United, who CLEARLY dived more?

    Arsenal players.

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    Post by L r dd Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:49 pm

    Stimulus Package wrote:An honest player would be one who faced with such a situation (keeper coming out, likely to dive at your feet) did not just try to get to the ball first and then go to ground. In this respect, Rooney is no more dishonest than any other player.

    The sad thing is that this means hardly any players actually try to take on the keeper anymore, at least in the EPL. But it isn't really any different to the midfielder who stands still, shields the ball, and falls over as soon as anyone runs into him with the slightest force. One might say it is all part of the modern game. Lots of the best players do it.

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    Arsenal players went down so easily in that match, and because the ref wasnt having any of it for half the 'dives' Wenger came out and called him all sorts.
    Rooney's 'dive' was not a dive and nowhere near as bad as other incidents in that exact same match. But our press are just morons who follow the current flow and overdo it without actually looking to make a real point or help anyone.

    Some guy for SSN basically said to Carlton Cole we're the honest ones we shouldn't dive even if others do, do you see it that way Doh

    Let every other national get advantages but not us...fucking idiots.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:00 pm

    It's the bloody foreigners, innit? Englishmen don't dive. But what can you do, you have to go with the tide. Grr
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:02 pm

    Jurgen Klinsmann brought diving to England

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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:06 pm

    Klinsmann at least had the decency to take the piss out of himself.

    If anyone deserves some flack for their holier than thou attitude, it's got to be the Scotch.

    The Scotch contingent at UEFA got Eduardo banned,

    Celtic and the Scotch media went mental about DIRTY diving outside of the SPL,

    then that very weekend, 2 players got sent off. For diving.

    One of them Celtic's Aiden Mcgeady, who had been very vocal about Eduardo's disgusting dive.

    They didn't build Hadrian's Wall tall enough
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    Post by UK_Andy Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:13 am

    Hahahaha.

    Rooney is a lot of things, but honest isn't one of them.

    I reckon the two worst divers in the EPL are Rooney and Gerrard, but as they are 'Englands Roses' they never take any flak for it what so ever.
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    Post by SuperMario Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:44 am

    Spider Crouch wrote:Klinsmann at least had the decency to take the piss out of himself.
    Ale

    always hated him for his diving, but that was so funny.
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    Post by Fade out Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:54 pm

    Klinsmann is mroe honest player than Rooney(Gerrard, or any "English" players) ever will be. Ale
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    Post by Fade out Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:11 pm

    Rooney and Ronaldo are honest..Here is proof:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHXLo5tolYk&feature=related
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:38 pm

    It was only in the last 2-3 years I have really started to notice diving or at least it is only in this period that it has started to annoy me. I was so used to it when watching spanish football that it was just part of the game. That is one area where England is way way ahead of spanish or italian football.
    I gues it isn't what it used to be but still a lot better then most leagues.
    It could be a fun experiment to try and swap crowds between leagues. The british would lose their mind watching spanish football Smile

    How is Scotland compared to England at this aspect?
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:59 pm

    Unflinching Frenchman wrote:Klinsmann is mroe honest player than Rooney(Gerrard, or any "English" players) ever will be. Ale

    Oh please.

    As if this is the bastion of "honesty". In a World Cup final to boot:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7Y33VteME

    There's also a very iconic one of Jurgen when he was at Monaco playing Milan, and he gets his toe treaded on and goes down like he's been shot. Unfortunsately can't locate it on youtube.

    Klinsmann deserves praide for making fun of himself later on in his career,

    but to call him honest is just ridiculous. Honestly good actor maybe Ale
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    Post by Fade out Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:33 pm

    Okay, he is a honest actor. Put it that way. He accepted his behavior, while Rooney is a disgrace to come out and say what he did. He's a diver and there are conclusive proofs despite the lame defence. Maybe it's an influence of watching Cristiano Ronaldo in close quarters, Staam had also written Fergie encouraged players to dive. But it's sad he does it. Rooney is a player I normally like to watch.
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    Post by L r dd Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:36 pm

    Unflinching Frenchman wrote:Okay, he is a honest actor. Put it that way. He accepted his behavior, while Rooney is a disgrace to come out and say what he did. He's a diver and there are conclusive proofs despite the lame defence. Maybe it's an influence of watching Cristiano Ronaldo in close quarters, Staam had also written Fergie encouraged players to dive. But it's sad he does it. Rooney is a player I normally like to watch.

    Oh shut up man, the whole french/african squad you adore dive like crazy.
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    Post by Fade out Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:40 pm

    I don't defend diving, or make excuses for the Afrikans/Latin Americans/Europeans I support. Ale
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    Post by L r dd Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:32 pm

    But you don't moan about their dives either. So shut it frenchy
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:21 pm

    Unflinching Frenchman wrote:Okay, he is a honest actor. Put it that way. He accepted his behavior, while Rooney is a disgrace to come out and say what he did. He's a diver and there are conclusive proofs despite the lame defence. Maybe it's an influence of watching Cristiano Ronaldo in close quarters, Staam had also written Fergie encouraged players to dive. But it's sad he does it. Rooney is a player I normally like to watch.

    Actually, Jurgen was very adamant he DIDN'T dive, but was persuaded by Teddy Sheringham that the "English" way was to poke fun at himself irrespective. This was a very clever tactic, because it endeared him to not only the Spurs fans, but English fans in general:

    http://www.chrishunt.biz/features34.html

    Hand on heart, were you a diver? Don’t you find that if you’re really badly hurt, you can’t roll around that much?


    “First of all, I never was a diver and I never dove. When I first came to Spurs and I heard about this story it was a big lesson for me about how to handle the English media. They wanted to see how this guy would react to it, so I tried to do my best. I had the help of Teddy Sheringham and he advised me to do a dive after scoring my first goal – and that kind of turned everything around.



    “What Teddy and my team-mates pretty much taught me was that in England, as a person who is in the public eye for a moment, you often get provoked in order that they see how you react to things. And it is the English humour that you never should feel offended, that you should always top any kind of provocative situation. I didn’t know how to deal with it – but people helped me handle it, advised me that I should make a joke out of it.



    “Those are important lessons off the football field, because it tells you about the mentality and habits and traditions in a certain country, and that was fascinating for me. I mean, I really tried to learn to top things in conversations with friends, or with teammates, and I learned a lot. It took me a long time to understand Scottish though [laughs], but I pretty much made it by the end of my time there.



    “The joke made me popular in England but I was also lucky at that time because I was scoring the goals. You can always say ‘when you score, do a dive’ and joke about the situation, but if you don’t score you can’t make the joke.”


    So really, not all that much honest than Rooney. Just dealt with the situation better by taking good advice Ale
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:27 pm

    L r dd wrote:But you don't moan about their dives either. So shut it frenchy

    Like you've ever moaned about Rooney's dive. Shut it Lerd.
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    Post by L r dd Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:34 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:
    L r dd wrote:But you don't moan about their dives either. So shut it frenchy

    Like you've ever moaned about Rooney's dive. Shut it Lerd.

    Excuse me? i was appauled when he did what he did to poor Sol Campbell. Refused to celebrate that victory No
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:37 pm

    Bullshit Doh

    Typical United decision at Old Trafford. People call us sore losers but it would've been justice if Campbell had dropped kicked Rooney at the final whistle. Ale

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