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fcb- Number of posts : 40471
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Yeah, it's similar to the Arsenal games in the CL last year - the start is phenomenally good, but then either as a result of all the pressing they did in the first half, or just general fatigue, the performance drops off significantly after 60 mins or so.
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I think we will see an improvement, but it is very annoying to have left 5 points in easy games. As for the team, then I think Iniesta has been very underwhelming, Pique has a focus problem, Bojan needs to finsih more, and Abidal and Alves have to start understanding that all of our attackers are dwarfs so high balls into the area with a back line that is almost in the goal itself is not going to work.
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To their credit the fullbacks didn't play too many crosses yesterday, compared to other games. They at least tried to think and look for another option before just booting it hopefully into the middle.
Bojan's overall decision making was poor yesterday. Shot (badly) when he should have passed, or vice versa.
Not too worried about the dropped points yet...this season will result in much lower points totals than last year's incredible tally of 99. But the urgency and focus better return soon...it would be hugely frustrating to have another season like 2006-2007, where a huge reason for Madrid winning the title is Barça throwing it away.
Bojan's overall decision making was poor yesterday. Shot (badly) when he should have passed, or vice versa.
Not too worried about the dropped points yet...this season will result in much lower points totals than last year's incredible tally of 99. But the urgency and focus better return soon...it would be hugely frustrating to have another season like 2006-2007, where a huge reason for Madrid winning the title is Barça throwing it away.
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David Villa: "El mal que tenemos es la falta de gol"
So will be your new centre forward next summer, once Pep's "feeling" about Villa has, shall we say, dwindled?????
So will be your new centre forward next summer, once Pep's "feeling" about Villa has, shall we say, dwindled?????
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I a guessing that we will go for Higuain ; )
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Hem fet un.. wrote:I a guessing that we will go for Higuain ; )
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Hem fet un.. wrote:I a guessing that we will go for Higuain ; )
Touché.
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Oooooooooh!
Here he is, your new striker:
Here he is, your new striker:
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Well, MD thinks it'll be Luis Suarez or Dzeko or Tevez
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Tevez meets the maximum height restriction.
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Saw that yesterday too. indeed
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According to AS, Zubi is keeping tabs on Denilson
I wish they would just fuck off with their obsession for Arsenal players.
I wish they would just fuck off with their obsession for Arsenal players.
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Wow between Zubi and Pep your signings are going to be awesome!
Oh, did you see in AS that Villa is 'worse' than Zlatan and Eto'o????
Oh, did you see in AS that Villa is 'worse' than Zlatan and Eto'o????
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so we have gone from one extreme to another... From Laporta recognising all benefits in his last year to Rosell shifting all the losses to that year. Ah well... dont really believe any of the two numbers.. we probably came out of last year with something like 20m loss (which would make sense since we "only" won the league and spent a lot of money in the transfer market).
Now, behold Rosell magically turning around the club over the next couple of years, so that if he is unable to match Laporta in titles then he will have made the club an economic superpower..
The next chapter will of course be a president that says that Rosell neglected Barças historic sporting achievements and he will promise much more investment in players, wages, stadium etc etc etc
They are making a big deal out of a million or two of euros spent on non club related activities, ie restaurants, jets etc, but to be honest, anybody working in a big company shouldnt be surprised.. CEOs and their gangs cost a hell of a lot more than their huge wages.
What pisses me off, is the cost of Kierrison and Henrique that Pep doesnt want to use (we can add Caceres and Hleb to those) and cost us some 24 mill now and the land deal, where we paid grossly in excess of the value (but I guess it is the same tactic that Floro uses when he contracts ACS to do work for Madrizz). Corruption will always be an issue in these big clubs/companies, and anybody who thinks otherwise is just hugely naive.
Shame that Floro has so many contacts/power that nobody dares making an analysis of the true results in Madrizzzz
Now, behold Rosell magically turning around the club over the next couple of years, so that if he is unable to match Laporta in titles then he will have made the club an economic superpower..
The next chapter will of course be a president that says that Rosell neglected Barças historic sporting achievements and he will promise much more investment in players, wages, stadium etc etc etc
They are making a big deal out of a million or two of euros spent on non club related activities, ie restaurants, jets etc, but to be honest, anybody working in a big company shouldnt be surprised.. CEOs and their gangs cost a hell of a lot more than their huge wages.
What pisses me off, is the cost of Kierrison and Henrique that Pep doesnt want to use (we can add Caceres and Hleb to those) and cost us some 24 mill now and the land deal, where we paid grossly in excess of the value (but I guess it is the same tactic that Floro uses when he contracts ACS to do work for Madrizz). Corruption will always be an issue in these big clubs/companies, and anybody who thinks otherwise is just hugely naive.
Shame that Floro has so many contacts/power that nobody dares making an analysis of the true results in Madrizzzz
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And for those who can understand Català
http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/downloads/pdf/2010-11/Due_Dilligence_KPMG_pdf.pdf
http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/downloads/pdf/2010-11/Due_Dilligence_KPMG_pdf.pdf
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Yep agree with everything you say.
The key of course is for things to continue going well on the pitch. If that happens, all this political stuff will just be a sideshow, mostly ignored. But if results on the pitch are bad, then these disputes start to be seen as a reason for the problems.
The key of course is for things to continue going well on the pitch. If that happens, all this political stuff will just be a sideshow, mostly ignored. But if results on the pitch are bad, then these disputes start to be seen as a reason for the problems.
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you are right... In any case it is a annoying to see that two huge egos fighting it out in public. I think that any points dropped will result in more focus on money spent on unsuccessful players. However, at some point Rosell will have to react in some way, because we will start to see stories about fictional conflicts between Rosell and Pep, the club not wanting to bring in the players that Pep want etc etc...
This could be a tough season if we dont start winning in the Camp Nou, not so much because of the league position but because the media will spend all their time on trying to figure out the negative differences between now and two years ago.
This could be a tough season if we dont start winning in the Camp Nou, not so much because of the league position but because the media will spend all their time on trying to figure out the negative differences between now and two years ago.
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It's ridiculous that the socios have called Laporta to court to pay 49m euros
Have they just been forced into this by Rosell or did they actually think it through? Ok, we know that some people are unhappy with what Laporta did off the pitch, but just close the chapter and move on. It won't help anyone, or indeed the club as a whole, by dragging such petty disputes in the public domain.
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As for the game, I don't know if it's just me, but even though it was a real statement victory, I have more concerns than satisfaction. It seems to be costing this team a lot of physical and mental effort in order to win games. We keep hearing that they still are not at full fitness, but it's already mid-October...when will the peak form and fitness come? With such a small squad, the margin to end-of-season-burnout is very small.
Individual performances were also mixed. Iniesta was magnificent in the way he carried the ball, esp. in the 2nd half. Puyol, Maxwell, Busquets all had good games too.
But Messi was utterly awful. We were basically playing with 10 men...he showed no conviction in his first touch, no energy, was too casual, slow, basically totally switched off. Hopefully it's a one-off and not a sign that he too has fallen victim to the 2 year burnout that all Balon d'Or winners seem to suffer nowadays.
It's important that he plays well because we are starting to see that the squad is very unbalanced. There's only 2 goalscorers - Messi and Villa...and right now the latter is going through some really poor form...his finishing in this game =
There's only one distributor at the back - Pique. And he can be easily closed down by a smart manager - like Emery - who asks his forwards to pressure the Barça back 4, rather than getting his team to park the bus and hope for the best.
There's only one real creator in the middle - Xavi. During the first half yesterday was the first time I genuinely regretted not going for Ozil. We really could have done with someone new, that defenders in the league have not seen before, with a bit of pace and creativity to unlock good defenses.
Emery, as usual, prepared his team very well, and Valencia played the perfect template against Barça: pressure on the defenders to stop them from creating, no time and space for the players in the middle, quick counter attacks in the channel between CB and fullback - their goal was exactly how Hercules scored. As was the chance from Pablo which Valdes thankfully saved.
We have a relatively tough start to the season - next week is Zaragoza but after that another big game: Sevilla. And Villarreal are on the schedule soon too. By the time we play Madrid in the 13th Jornada, we will have already played Atletico, Athletic, Sevilla, Valencia, Villarreal, and Madrid. ie. all the top teams. So maybe that's why the team still doesn't look that smooth...anyway, I guess we should be happy with the win for now, then let the improvement come gradually.
Have they just been forced into this by Rosell or did they actually think it through? Ok, we know that some people are unhappy with what Laporta did off the pitch, but just close the chapter and move on. It won't help anyone, or indeed the club as a whole, by dragging such petty disputes in the public domain.
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As for the game, I don't know if it's just me, but even though it was a real statement victory, I have more concerns than satisfaction. It seems to be costing this team a lot of physical and mental effort in order to win games. We keep hearing that they still are not at full fitness, but it's already mid-October...when will the peak form and fitness come? With such a small squad, the margin to end-of-season-burnout is very small.
Individual performances were also mixed. Iniesta was magnificent in the way he carried the ball, esp. in the 2nd half. Puyol, Maxwell, Busquets all had good games too.
But Messi was utterly awful. We were basically playing with 10 men...he showed no conviction in his first touch, no energy, was too casual, slow, basically totally switched off. Hopefully it's a one-off and not a sign that he too has fallen victim to the 2 year burnout that all Balon d'Or winners seem to suffer nowadays.
It's important that he plays well because we are starting to see that the squad is very unbalanced. There's only 2 goalscorers - Messi and Villa...and right now the latter is going through some really poor form...his finishing in this game =
There's only one distributor at the back - Pique. And he can be easily closed down by a smart manager - like Emery - who asks his forwards to pressure the Barça back 4, rather than getting his team to park the bus and hope for the best.
There's only one real creator in the middle - Xavi. During the first half yesterday was the first time I genuinely regretted not going for Ozil. We really could have done with someone new, that defenders in the league have not seen before, with a bit of pace and creativity to unlock good defenses.
Emery, as usual, prepared his team very well, and Valencia played the perfect template against Barça: pressure on the defenders to stop them from creating, no time and space for the players in the middle, quick counter attacks in the channel between CB and fullback - their goal was exactly how Hercules scored. As was the chance from Pablo which Valdes thankfully saved.
We have a relatively tough start to the season - next week is Zaragoza but after that another big game: Sevilla. And Villarreal are on the schedule soon too. By the time we play Madrid in the 13th Jornada, we will have already played Atletico, Athletic, Sevilla, Valencia, Villarreal, and Madrid. ie. all the top teams. So maybe that's why the team still doesn't look that smooth...anyway, I guess we should be happy with the win for now, then let the improvement come gradually.
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First half was utterly dreadful!
But eventhough I agree with part of your analysis then you have to think of the fact that when you say only that there is only one to distribute from the back is that we only have two or three at the back when you consider that the fullbacks move forward, so I dont see that is a problem. The problem arrives when the midfield fails and the distributor is forced into long passes or playing it out to isolated fullbacks that cannot advance with the ball.
As for Messi, then I agree. His worst game in a long time. His timing was poor and he seemed to lack the pace and conviction of normal. But Valencia was playing with two left backs and Villa was inadvertently forcing Messi out on the right.
Xavi is not in good shape. Despite being involved in both goals, he failed miserably in the first half. Only in the second half, when Iniesta was dropping deeper did we manage to take control in the midfield. Hopefully when Pedro is back we will see Iniesta deeper more often, because even if he scores occasionally but he isnt a killer.
Villa was miserable. Very active, but he didnt really represent much of a threat, and he really needs to work on his timing so that he is perpertually offside.
I think Mascherano should have come earlier to allow Busquets to move further forward, and Villa, on the basis of his performance, should have been off at half time. Messi was also awful but I have much more faith in him creating something out of nothing than the Guaje.
If Thiago is the real deal, then it is time that him (and JDS) start getting more minutes so that the regulars can get a chance at building up their physical and mental reserves. I would also love to have a decent backup in attack, but I dont see that being present.
In the future we most really start to look at rotating more, and yet not as aggressively as against Hercules. Also, is Villa best as a striker or as a 7?? I dont know, but he seems a bit uncomfortable in both roles.
But eventhough I agree with part of your analysis then you have to think of the fact that when you say only that there is only one to distribute from the back is that we only have two or three at the back when you consider that the fullbacks move forward, so I dont see that is a problem. The problem arrives when the midfield fails and the distributor is forced into long passes or playing it out to isolated fullbacks that cannot advance with the ball.
As for Messi, then I agree. His worst game in a long time. His timing was poor and he seemed to lack the pace and conviction of normal. But Valencia was playing with two left backs and Villa was inadvertently forcing Messi out on the right.
Xavi is not in good shape. Despite being involved in both goals, he failed miserably in the first half. Only in the second half, when Iniesta was dropping deeper did we manage to take control in the midfield. Hopefully when Pedro is back we will see Iniesta deeper more often, because even if he scores occasionally but he isnt a killer.
Villa was miserable. Very active, but he didnt really represent much of a threat, and he really needs to work on his timing so that he is perpertually offside.
I think Mascherano should have come earlier to allow Busquets to move further forward, and Villa, on the basis of his performance, should have been off at half time. Messi was also awful but I have much more faith in him creating something out of nothing than the Guaje.
If Thiago is the real deal, then it is time that him (and JDS) start getting more minutes so that the regulars can get a chance at building up their physical and mental reserves. I would also love to have a decent backup in attack, but I dont see that being present.
In the future we most really start to look at rotating more, and yet not as aggressively as against Hercules. Also, is Villa best as a striker or as a 7?? I dont know, but he seems a bit uncomfortable in both roles.
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Yeah, I wasn't too impressed by Villa's general involvement in the buildup play...he seems to have only one trick, to cut inside with the ball, and his final pass is also poor...though part of that may be because Messi was on some different planet altogether yesterday.
The question basically is: which combination do we get more out of: Messi in the middle plus Villa on the left, or Messi on the right with Villa in the middle? Right now Guardiola probably seems to think that the benefits of Messi in the middle outweighs the negatives of any other player being out of position.
Regarding the offsides, it's indeed really frustrating. For now I'm just hoping that it's a question of adaptation rather than a long-term issue. I wonder if they train with linesmen...if not, Pep should try a few sessions with a partially blind one, that'll really force Villa to learn
Agreed on Iniesta dropping back...that's basically the "tactical changes" he alluded to in his post-match comments. Because in the first half, Valencia were owning our midfield, esp. Manuel Fernandes and Banega, leaving Albelda free to focus on Messi. And by playing Alba (who has played at LB before) instead of Mata, with Mathieu free to overlap as he wanted, Emery really clogged up the right flank for Alves.
As for Thiago, the Copa game against Cueta is a given for him (and Jonathan) to play, but I'd also like to see them play against Copenhagen in midweek, and Zaragoza next weekend.
The question basically is: which combination do we get more out of: Messi in the middle plus Villa on the left, or Messi on the right with Villa in the middle? Right now Guardiola probably seems to think that the benefits of Messi in the middle outweighs the negatives of any other player being out of position.
Regarding the offsides, it's indeed really frustrating. For now I'm just hoping that it's a question of adaptation rather than a long-term issue. I wonder if they train with linesmen...if not, Pep should try a few sessions with a partially blind one, that'll really force Villa to learn
Agreed on Iniesta dropping back...that's basically the "tactical changes" he alluded to in his post-match comments. Because in the first half, Valencia were owning our midfield, esp. Manuel Fernandes and Banega, leaving Albelda free to focus on Messi. And by playing Alba (who has played at LB before) instead of Mata, with Mathieu free to overlap as he wanted, Emery really clogged up the right flank for Alves.
As for Thiago, the Copa game against Cueta is a given for him (and Jonathan) to play, but I'd also like to see them play against Copenhagen in midweek, and Zaragoza next weekend.
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The first half was crap and i didn't see the 2nd half so i can't comment of that.
I agree with Kas, that the teams performances have looked a lot more laboured of late, but i guess that is what happens, when you have basically the same team, playing the same style of football for 3 seasons.
teams now have it down to a basic math has to how to best play against us, which makes it all the more impressive that we keep on digging in and winning, but that will have an effect on the team at some point during the season.
I think come the summer, pep needs to take a serious look at the composition of the team and the system we play.
I agree with Kas, that the teams performances have looked a lot more laboured of late, but i guess that is what happens, when you have basically the same team, playing the same style of football for 3 seasons.
teams now have it down to a basic math has to how to best play against us, which makes it all the more impressive that we keep on digging in and winning, but that will have an effect on the team at some point during the season.
I think come the summer, pep needs to take a serious look at the composition of the team and the system we play.
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Yes, it's clear now that there are 2 ways to play Barça. Both were illustrated by Mourinho's Inter in the CL last year...the first way below was the 2nd leg at Camp Nou, and the 2nd way below was used in the 1st leg at San Siro.
1. Sit back with 8 or 9 behind the ball, frustrate our players for as long as possible, and hope for some luck on the counter. This is usually used by small teams, and esp. at Camp Nou.
2. Play a more adventurous game, with the following aspects...this usually only works when your own team has quality, pace, and good physical condition.
a. Pressure from forwards on the CBs so they can't create...keep 1 or 2 players always in the space between the defense and midfield lines of Barça.
b. Double marking on Messi, to ensure he doesn't get the ball in the first place.
c. Always put pressure on the ball, moving 1 or 2 players to it like drones, but then telling them to drop back once the ball is moved sideways. Then other players in that zone should step up to the ball.
d. When counter-attacking, use long-ish, diagonal balls and try to exploit the channel between CB and fullback...use as much width as possible so that you can square the ball to incoming midfielders (who are usually unmarked because everyone in our team is just scrambling back to get in position rather than mark someone), or win a setpiece, from which you can easily beat our midgets in the air.
e. And some variations depending on your players, for example, man-marking Xavi.
1. Sit back with 8 or 9 behind the ball, frustrate our players for as long as possible, and hope for some luck on the counter. This is usually used by small teams, and esp. at Camp Nou.
2. Play a more adventurous game, with the following aspects...this usually only works when your own team has quality, pace, and good physical condition.
a. Pressure from forwards on the CBs so they can't create...keep 1 or 2 players always in the space between the defense and midfield lines of Barça.
b. Double marking on Messi, to ensure he doesn't get the ball in the first place.
c. Always put pressure on the ball, moving 1 or 2 players to it like drones, but then telling them to drop back once the ball is moved sideways. Then other players in that zone should step up to the ball.
d. When counter-attacking, use long-ish, diagonal balls and try to exploit the channel between CB and fullback...use as much width as possible so that you can square the ball to incoming midfielders (who are usually unmarked because everyone in our team is just scrambling back to get in position rather than mark someone), or win a setpiece, from which you can easily beat our midgets in the air.
e. And some variations depending on your players, for example, man-marking Xavi.
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Villa isn't in the best of form anyway, though I think it's an utter waste to play him as a LWF. He does all his best work in and around the box.
Messi--Villa--Pedro should be the front three.
Iniesta is one of the best CMF in the world; play him there.
Keita should be a backup, along with JDS + Thiago. Busquets + Masch should rotate. Guardiola's idea of rotation though is to play the same players, just out of position.
Messi--Villa--Pedro should be the front three.
Iniesta is one of the best CMF in the world; play him there.
Keita should be a backup, along with JDS + Thiago. Busquets + Masch should rotate. Guardiola's idea of rotation though is to play the same players, just out of position.
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So...Wayne Rooney is on his way out. What do we think of him as a signing for Barça?
Pros:
- We certainly need a forward
- Has the qualities of first touch, control, finishing, vision that are required
- Has superb work rate and a real team spirit, kind of like Etoo did
- He's world class when on form
- Can play all across the front 3, and when in the middle he can be either a "true 9" or a "false 9"
- Entering his peak years
-Huge potential for marketing
Cons:
- The transfer fee and wages will be ridiculously high...esp. with competition from Madrid (assuming staying in England is not an option for him)
- Is he in a permanent slump/already hit his peak, or genuinely just needs a change in circumstances/country to reignite his career?
- Language/culture issues
- Although most of his technical qualities are excellent, does he have the speed of mind to be able to play a quick first touch passing game?
Pros:
- We certainly need a forward
- Has the qualities of first touch, control, finishing, vision that are required
- Has superb work rate and a real team spirit, kind of like Etoo did
- He's world class when on form
- Can play all across the front 3, and when in the middle he can be either a "true 9" or a "false 9"
- Entering his peak years
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Cons:
- The transfer fee and wages will be ridiculously high...esp. with competition from Madrid (assuming staying in England is not an option for him)
- Is he in a permanent slump/already hit his peak, or genuinely just needs a change in circumstances/country to reignite his career?
- Language/culture issues
- Although most of his technical qualities are excellent, does he have the speed of mind to be able to play a quick first touch passing game?
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- Post n°716
Re: FC Barcelona - Campeones de España!
The only problem would be his transfer fee for me, he is a good player that could fit in perfectly in our front 3, and it would mean iniesta will have to move back to midfield, which would make the move even better.
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- Post n°717
Re: FC Barcelona - Campeones de España!
Yeah, even though he'll probably only move next summer, when he has a year on his contract, the fee will be upwards of 30m. And if the club is still keen on Cesc, there's no way that both will happen (the sensible thing atm of course seems to be to just forget Cesc completely, what with Pastore and Hernanes in stunning form...Guardiola is also a fan of Banega, judging by his comments after the Valencia game).
And not just the transfer fee, but wages too. He'll surely demand to be the 2nd highest earner after Messi. ie. more than 9m (Xavi) but less than 12m (Messi). For sure Madrid will outbid us on both the transfer fee and wages, so then it's a question of what the player fancies.
And not just the transfer fee, but wages too. He'll surely demand to be the 2nd highest earner after Messi. ie. more than 9m (Xavi) but less than 12m (Messi). For sure Madrid will outbid us on both the transfer fee and wages, so then it's a question of what the player fancies.
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- Post n°718
Re: FC Barcelona - Campeones de España!
Typical class from Pep in response to Ibrahimovic's recent (IMO true ) comments (that Guardiola doesn't know how to handle a squad of 22 stars, but Mourinho does).
"Sólo puedo decir que nos ayudó mucho a conseguir los seis títulos".
"Mis jugadores son muy buenos jugadores y muy buenas personas".
"Puede hablar cuando quiera. Yo no me represento a mi mismo sino a una institución. Es su opinión, la respeto y no tengo nada más que añadir".
"Sólo puedo decir que nos ayudó mucho a conseguir los seis títulos".
"Mis jugadores son muy buenos jugadores y muy buenas personas".
"Puede hablar cuando quiera. Yo no me represento a mi mismo sino a una institución. Es su opinión, la respeto y no tengo nada más que añadir".
Jaime- Number of posts : 32027
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- Post n°719
Re: FC Barcelona - Campeones de España!
Booooooooooooooooring!
Can't we get some of those Rosell vs Laporta quotes that have been flying around the last couple days?????
Can't we get some of those Rosell vs Laporta quotes that have been flying around the last couple days?????
TITO- Number of posts : 3155
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- Post n°720
Re: FC Barcelona - Campeones de España!
Awful.
Same shit all over again. I cant believe we won with that kind of performance, against SOME team, at home.
Same shit all over again. I cant believe we won with that kind of performance, against SOME team, at home.
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