Worst coach of the WC so far.

After Capello's worst game as an England coach, I thought no one could beat him as a clown coach of the first games. And then enter Paul Le Guen, and he made Capello look like a Mourinho by playing SWP instead of Cole. I can't believe any coach, especially a European coach, would play Eto in the right wing of a 4-5-1 and continue with that formation for 90 minutes even when the team is losing. It gets even worse when you mention the fact he preferred Webo as a centre forward, and even Idrissou was told to get into the box while was doing the defending. Was he doing a Mourinho without Milito?

Le Guen, Domenech, Lagerback, Rehhagel. Take your pick

capello, lars lafback, le guen, rehagel, verbeek, domenech were all terrible...

does this list tell us that foreign coaches rather ruins a culture than using the pros of a culture....?

My top 3 Lafbek, Le Guen & Domenech.

Rehhagel can be excused for having nothing to pick from.

the australien coach for giving us space

Also Low for his outfit.

debaser wrote:Also Low for his outfit.

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Özil wrote:the australien coach for giving us space

he told postmatch, he told his players to keep to pitch as marrow as possible. They did about the opposite. Not smart v a better team. Don't rate Verbeek myself at all. So not suprised his players do not listen to him, I wouldn't either.

rza wrote:After Capello's worst game as an England coach, I thought no one could beat him as a clown coach of the first games. And then enter Paul Le Guen, and he made Capello look like a Mourinho by playing SWP instead of Cole. I can't believe any coach, especially a European coach, would play Eto in the right wing of a 4-5-1 and continue with that formation for 90 minutes even when the team is losing. It gets even worse when you mention the fact he preferred Webo as a centre forward, and even Idrissou was told to get into the box while was doing the defending. Was he doing a Mourinho without Milito?

I'm going to defend Le Guen. That Cameroon squad is one of the most unbalanced imaginable: He has four defensive midifelders in N'Guemo, Mbia, Makoun and Song. Of the forwards available three of the them are target-men and the only one with any sort of mobility is Eto'o. I personally don't see what other way he could play

--Mbia---Song---Makoun

----------Emana----------

-------Eto'o---Webó------

Er, didn't he pick the squad?

Can you think of a single wide player for Cameroon off the top of your head? Geremi?

Persistence wrote:

Özil wrote:the australien coach for giving us space

he told postmatch, he told his players to keep to pitch as marrow as possible. They did about the opposite. Not smart v a better team. Don't rate Verbeek myself at all. So not suprised his players do not listen to him, I wouldn't either.

Maybe the Australian fans should start singing "De laatste week, van Pim Verbeek....de laatste weeeek, van Pim Verbeeeek", when we did it at Groningen it worked

Well, no. But I'm not being paid to pick a Cameroon squad! I can't believe there is not a single Cameroon footballer who can play on the wing..

debaser wrote:Well, no. But I'm not being paid to pick a Cameroon squad! I can't believe there is not a single Cameroon footballer who can play on the wing..

I'm sure there are some Camerunian wide players in the lower leagues of European football, but good enough to play at an international standard

Surprised no one mentioned Maradona...perhaps his ignorance is camouflaged by the better players we have???(and yes I'm including England here...BOOOOOOMMM!!!!)

Capello wins hands down if we're basing it on salary.

I expect (or is it hope? I can't tell) that he will redeem himself though

Noah and the Bale wrote:Capello wins hands down if we're basing it on salary.

I expect (or is it hope? I can't tell) that he will redeem himself though

Well he's supposed to be one of the best and toughest coaches in the world, "Don" Fabio will drop anyone we were told. Apparently not, the guy is a Sven wannabe so far.

Yeah, blame Johnny Foreigner Kimbo....how typical!

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But i thought this time, it would be different, since you have a good coach

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:But i thought this time, it would be different, since you have a good coach

On the evidence of the USA game we do not have a good coach. Tactically it was horrific, for the reasons we've been smearing all over the booard for the past few days now.

Kimbo wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:But i thought this time, it would be different, since you have a good coach

On the evidence of the USA game we do not have a good coach. Tactically it was horrific, for the reasons we've been smearing all over the booard for the past few days now.

He made some strange decisions in terms of tactics and personel (as we've already discussed to death), but it's far too early to be tearing into him.

Infact, it's criminal that we're tearing into him at all, seeing as he should be given a full crack now that we're in the tournament that he so easily managed to get us qualified for.

Do Italian fans even remember the 1-1 game against the USA in 2006? I doubt it. We wouldn't either if we were to win the World Cup. Not saying this is going to happen, but highlights the pointlessness of mulling over one game.

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:But i thought this time, it would be different, since you have a good coach

On the evidence of the USA game we do not have a good coach. Tactically it was horrific, for the reasons we've been smearing all over the booard for the past few days now.

He made some strange decisions in terms of tactics and personel (as we've already discussed to death), but it's far too early to be tearing into him.

Infact, it's criminal that we're tearing into him at all, seeing as he should be given a full crack now that we're in the tournament that he so easily managed to get us qualified for.

Do Italian fans even remember the 1-1 game against the USA in 2006? I doubt it. We wouldn't either if we were to win the World Cup. Not saying this is going to happen, but highlights the pointlessness of mulling over one game.

What if we get a repeat performance against Algeria, will you still be Mr Sunshine then?

rza wrote:After Capello's worst game as an England coach, I thought no one could beat him as a clown coach of the first games. And then enter Paul Le Guen, and he made Capello look like a Mourinho by playing SWP instead of Cole. I can't believe any coach, especially a European coach, would play Eto in the right wing of a 4-5-1 and continue with that formation for 90 minutes even when the team is losing. It gets even worse when you mention the fact he preferred Webo as a centre forward, and even Idrissou was told to get into the box while was doing the defending. Was he doing a Mourinho without Milito?

I'll defend capello here on the swp versus cole point, milner was being raped for pace, he was hardly going to put the slower cole on. When swp came on the threat from that side disappeared. Joe cole is the type of guy to bring on in the last 15 mins of a game if you need a goal. He wouldn't last much longer so no point bringing him on in the first half then half to sub him again later.

Kimbo wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:But i thought this time, it would be different, since you have a good coach

On the evidence of the USA game we do not have a good coach. Tactically it was horrific, for the reasons we've been smearing all over the booard for the past few days now.

He made some strange decisions in terms of tactics and personel (as we've already discussed to death), but it's far too early to be tearing into him.

Infact, it's criminal that we're tearing into him at all, seeing as he should be given a full crack now that we're in the tournament that he so easily managed to get us qualified for.

Do Italian fans even remember the 1-1 game against the USA in 2006? I doubt it. We wouldn't either if we were to win the World Cup. Not saying this is going to happen, but highlights the pointlessness of mulling over one game.

What if we get a repeat performance against Algeria, will you still be Mr Sunshine then?

Yes. Until we get knocked out of the tournament I see no point tearing into Capello

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:But i thought this time, it would be different, since you have a good coach

On the evidence of the USA game we do not have a good coach. Tactically it was horrific, for the reasons we've been smearing all over the booard for the past few days now.

He made some strange decisions in terms of tactics and personel (as we've already discussed to death), but it's far too early to be tearing into him.

Infact, it's criminal that we're tearing into him at all, seeing as he should be given a full crack now that we're in the tournament that he so easily managed to get us qualified for.

Do Italian fans even remember the 1-1 game against the USA in 2006? I doubt it. We wouldn't either if we were to win the World Cup. Not saying this is going to happen, but highlights the pointlessness of mulling over one game.

What if we get a repeat performance against Algeria, will you still be Mr Sunshine then?

Yes. Until we get knocked out of the tournament I see no point tearing into Capello

So you will tear into him when we get KO'd?

110% wrote:

rza wrote:After Capello's worst game as an England coach, I thought no one could beat him as a clown coach of the first games. And then enter Paul Le Guen, and he made Capello look like a Mourinho by playing SWP instead of Cole. I can't believe any coach, especially a European coach, would play Eto in the right wing of a 4-5-1 and continue with that formation for 90 minutes even when the team is losing. It gets even worse when you mention the fact he preferred Webo as a centre forward, and even Idrissou was told to get into the box while was doing the defending. Was he doing a Mourinho without Milito?

I'll defend capello here on the swp versus cole point, milner was being raped for pace, he was hardly going to put the slower cole on. When swp came on the threat from that side disappeared. Joe cole is the type of guy to bring on in the last 15 mins of a game if you need a goal. He wouldn't last much longer so no point bringing him on in the first half then half to sub him again later.

Where do you get this idea? Cole will be as fit as a fiddle - he's made this clear in interviews with the press.

Joe Cole is the type of player we need on the pitch if we require some creativity and decent crossing. Leaving him to come on for the last 15 minutes is a criminal waste of talent in my opinion

Noah and the Bale wrote:

110% wrote:

rza wrote:After Capello's worst game as an England coach, I thought no one could beat him as a clown coach of the first games. And then enter Paul Le Guen, and he made Capello look like a Mourinho by playing SWP instead of Cole. I can't believe any coach, especially a European coach, would play Eto in the right wing of a 4-5-1 and continue with that formation for 90 minutes even when the team is losing. It gets even worse when you mention the fact he preferred Webo as a centre forward, and even Idrissou was told to get into the box while was doing the defending. Was he doing a Mourinho without Milito?

I'll defend capello here on the swp versus cole point, milner was being raped for pace, he was hardly going to put the slower cole on. When swp came on the threat from that side disappeared. Joe cole is the type of guy to bring on in the last 15 mins of a game if you need a goal. He wouldn't last much longer so no point bringing him on in the first half then half to sub him again later.

Where do you get this idea? Cole will be as fit as a fiddle - he's made this clear in interviews with the press.

Joe Cole is the type of player we need on the pitch if we require some creativity and decent crossing. Leaving him to come on for the last 15 minutes is a criminal waste of talent in my opinion

We could've taken Young and/or Johnson ofcourse, then we wouldn't be desperate for a half fit JC.

Kimbo wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:But i thought this time, it would be different, since you have a good coach

On the evidence of the USA game we do not have a good coach. Tactically it was horrific, for the reasons we've been smearing all over the booard for the past few days now.

He made some strange decisions in terms of tactics and personel (as we've already discussed to death), but it's far too early to be tearing into him.

Infact, it's criminal that we're tearing into him at all, seeing as he should be given a full crack now that we're in the tournament that he so easily managed to get us qualified for.

Do Italian fans even remember the 1-1 game against the USA in 2006? I doubt it. We wouldn't either if we were to win the World Cup. Not saying this is going to happen, but highlights the pointlessness of mulling over one game.

What if we get a repeat performance against Algeria, will you still be Mr Sunshine then?

Yes. Until we get knocked out of the tournament I see no point tearing into Capello

So you will tear into him when we get KO'd?

Not if we get ko'd in the semi finals. It's impossible to predict what will happen yet - we may build up a head of steam in the knock out stages even if we look unimpressive in the group stages.

I take it you're old enough to remember 1990: by your reasoning we should mull over Bobby Robson's failures in the group stages where we drew in the first game to the Irish and won unconvincingly against the Egyptians.

Carlos Queiros is the worst there is. How can he think of playing defensively with these players...

I can't remember 1990 no. And to be honest i'm sick of people bleating on about past examples of teams drawing their first game and doing well, plenty of teams have also drawn their first game and bombed out. My problem is this, Englands squad is rotten, it's a boys club, big tough Capello was supposed to sort it out before this cup, and he hasn't. England needs a major change in mentality before we challenge for a cup.