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    Post by rosenthal Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:10 pm

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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:58 pm

    Hi, I wish to welcome all that my name is Liu and from the Republic of China am I.

    From the Super Spurs is playing my favorit who is Luka Modric. We think he girl in China but man he play like Manboy!

    I say this for fact: I buy ticket to UK and shit kick the Harry Redknapp in face if he sell Luka to Chelsea.

    Pleasure it was to acquaint you.

    Go fast the Spurs!
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:59 pm

    lol!
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    Post by stinger Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:11 am

    Luka Modric has told Tottenham Hotspur that they do not match his ambitions and admitted for the first time that he would like to join Chelsea.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/17/luka-modric-tottenham-chelsea
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    Post by Fade out Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:35 am

    Bernd would say: Must be a frenchman. You Dirty Frog, Modric.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:28 am

    Fenomeno wrote:Bernd would say: Must be a frenchman. You Dirty Frog, Modric.

    Eh? Why do you insist on believing I've got something against French players?

    This Modric situation is very odd. It's clear someone or a group of people have been incessantly in his ear. Less than 2 months ago his was more than happy to be at Spurs, and yet now we don't match his ambitions.

    Disappointing.
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    Post by rosenthal Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:54 pm

    club statement

    "I wish to make it absolutely clear, as I have said previously, that none of our key players will be sold this summer. We are building a team for the future to consistently play at the highest level and retaining quality players is crucial to that.

    "In respect of Luka Modric, we are not prepared to sell, at any price, to Chelsea Football Club or any other club.

    "We made our stance on this issue abundantly clear in writing to Chelsea. They chose to ignore it and then subsequently made the offer public.

    "For the avoidance of any doubt, let me reiterate that we shall not enter into any negotiations whatsoever, with any Club, regarding Luka.

    "We now consider this matter closed."

    Will be interesting to see how Modric handles this situation.
    Only move now will be if Modric acts up, his reputation at Spurs will be forever torn if he does.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:17 pm

    Modric is not forsaking his ambition if he stays another year. Chelsea may be in the CL but they are managerless, have a whole bunch of 30 somethings who are going to need to be put out to pasture. The all out spending days are over so it's going to take some time for them to rebuild and their best youngsters still look some way off being ready.

    His game is perfectly suited to Spurs - he will continue to improve with us as we play the kind of football that suits him. Like Torres, he may find that isn't the case at Chelsea, especially given nobody knows yet who will be their manager.

    Seems to me he'll be making a mistake leaving. Next season if we miss out on CL again, fair enough. But Spurs fans should expect at least another year from him - we helped make him the player he is now, supported him through the early days when he struggled, sung his name and had faith in him. To stay and try and help us qualify for the CL again is not a big ask. I just hope 'Arry and Daniel make this clear and he does a Rooney style U-turn. Otherwise we're fucked, because we just don't have the time or resources to replace him.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:31 pm

    How do you not have the time or resources to replace him?

    If he actually did leave you'd get a shit load of money for him..and there's about 2 months to sort out a replacement.

    It would be shitty of him to leave and go to Chelsea..but I can understand it, if he's told he'll be starting. He is the sort of player Chelsea need to make them good again..
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    Post by rosenthal Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:35 pm


    Shitload of money? Certainly havent been offered so far, Chelsea's bid is just 5m profit on the the player for us. We already need to sign one or two top forwards, which isn't easy. And Levy will work hard all summer to get rid of fringe players, we have 9 senior players more than there's room for in the 25 man squad.
    Replacing our Player of the Year is not really something we want to do on top of that.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:39 pm

    You've turned down the offer..so they need to offer more. It'd obviously take a crazy crazy offer for him to be sold..so if he is to leave, it will be for a shit load of money.

    Sure this is something you want to do..but it isnt an impossible task if the money was given.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:49 pm

    christmasborocooper wrote:How do you not have the time or resources to replace him?

    If he actually did leave you'd get a shit load of money for him..and there's about 2 months to sort out a replacement.

    It would be shitty of him to leave and go to Chelsea..but I can understand it, if he's told he'll be starting. He is the sort of player Chelsea need to make them good again..

    yeah, the point is - as Rosenthal says - our priority was / is a striker, and they always tend to cost the most in the transfer market.

    To lose Modric and then have to replace essentially the fulcrum of our midfield with anything like as good is going to take a fair search and/or a lot of money. Without CL football, it also means we need to spend more to convince the more quality player to join us.

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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:26 pm

    This kid has been linked to Arsenal, Man City in recent months. We should be looking at him if Modric leaves as a type for type and potentially affordable replacement. Dubbed the new Kinkladze

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    Post by rosenthal Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:36 pm

    Looks like an amazing talent, haven't seen him play myself.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:50 pm

    See. "wah wah dont have time". An hour later and TRWP has found the replacement. Whinging c**ts.
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    Post by rosenthal Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:03 pm

    Have to consider that Harry's scouts aren't on the same level as the posters on here Razz

    Seriously though, even if someone like this has the talent of Modric,
    it will take 3-4, maybe 5 years before he's on the same level.
    By that time Bale and Sandro will have left and we remain at best at the level we already are.
    Not to mention that the "new guy" will be poached as well when he's proven quality.

    If Modric goes we will re invest that money and strenghten the squad,
    but it will only strenghten us against the club beneath us, not take us closer to the clubs above.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:04 pm

    Boro appears to be on his period. Again.

    Imagine that, worrying about losing our best player.

    And for entertainment's sake, indulging in a fantasy football manager moment and discussing who we'd personally choose to replace him.

    Yes, what c**ts we are. Heartily apologise Ale



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    Post by christmasborocooper Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:07 pm

    hmm...rosenthal got it. There's definitely one of us on a period here..


    Im not saying you shouldnt be unhappy that your best player wants to leave anyway..I just said you would have the time and resources to replace him.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:12 pm

    I make no apologies for being pissed off at waking up today to the news that Luka is looking to leave.

    Life will go on, and perhaps we will have the time and resources. But it reminds me of the early days of the Berbatov situation when United courted him for months with miserly bids before we finally accepted on deadline day and never properly replaced him, setting us back another 2 seasons to get back to the level we were before.

    Oh well, could be much worse. We could have hired Mcleish as manager. Poor Debs

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    Post by fcb Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:14 pm

    From LiterallyJamie on Twitter:


    Latest on the Modric negotiations; Royal Mail put staff on red alert as Dad commissions the world's biggest brown envelope.
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    Post by rosenthal Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:31 pm

    fcb wrote:From LiterallyJamie on Twitter:


    Latest on the Modric negotiations; Royal Mail put staff on red alert as Dad commissions the world's biggest brown envelope.

    Hope it's not neccessary to point it out,
    but that's not the real Jamie Redknapp's twitter account.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:38 pm

    Man U need a playmaker also...... Get 30m and Berbatov..... Very Happy
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:40 pm

    rosenthal wrote:
    fcb wrote:From LiterallyJamie on Twitter:


    Latest on the Modric negotiations; Royal Mail put staff on red alert as Dad commissions the world's biggest brown envelope.

    Hope it's not neccessary to point it out,
    but that's not the real Jamie Redknapp's twitter account.

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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:04 pm

    Brian2468 wrote:Man U need a playmaker also...... Get 30m and Berbatov..... Very Happy

    It would be very difficult to welcome Berbatov back. Also, like Carrick he seems to have regressed as opposed to improved since he left.

    Having said that, that would represent a very good deal from a purely rational perspective - Berbs is a proven EPL striker and would not require a bedding in process.

    Don't imagine it will ever happen though, he seems happy at United despite spending a lot of time on the bench.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:08 pm

    There's Little Sense In Selling Luka

    "Once again for the record, we are not a selling club, rather we are building for the future. When we have players on long contracts we have no need to entertain offers" - Daniel Levy, December 2007.


    Daniel Levy's 'no uncertain terms' style proclamation that Luka Modric would not be leaving White Hart Lane was certainly familiar. He said the same about Dimitar Berbatov on a number of occasions, but a few months later the combined powers of a very good transfer fee and an unhappy player forced him to change his position.

    Or was that ever his true position?

    Levy is a famously hard bargainer, wringing every last penny out of Manchester United for Berbatov and Michael Carrick. And rule one of getting the best deal is that you give the impression you don't want to sell, thus increasing the bidding from the purchasing party.

    However, Spurs must do everything they can to resist this time, especially with the number of clubs clamouring for a Champions League spot next season. Harry Redknapp has as much every time he's opened his mouth for the last few months, and Harry Redknapp opens his mouth an awful lot.

    While Redknapp only concerns himself with the playing side (as he has again stated numerous times) Levy's brief is to deal with the business of Tottenham, and as ever the business depends on how they perform on the pitch. And, for the last season at least, how Tottenham perform on the pitch has depended heavily on Luka Modric.

    Forget the assist and goalscoring stats, or the occasional flash of brilliance from Gareth Bale or Rafa van der Vaart - most Spurs fans will tell you that Modric runs the show, and they would much rather sell the other two than the little Croatian.

    For both the prestige of the occasions and the cash that it brings, Tottenham want to be in the Champions League. Hell, Redknapp even declares from time to time that he thinks he can win the league with Spurs. But only if they keep players like Modric.

    Last season, Spurs made something like £35million from the Champions League TV payouts and prize money. And that's before you factor in the increase in gate receipts and assorted other cash that can be raked in from a run at the most prestigious of club competitions.

    Assuming that Chelsea will baulk at paying north of £40million for Modric, even the financial case for selling him starts to fall apart. One season in Europe's top competition essentially makes up for turning down any offer.

    There are those who will claim you should never keep an unhappy player. Indeed, Modric's statement was a rather curious one. He said he wanted to leave Tottenham as friends, but made it clear he regards himself as too good for them. He claimed to have an understanding with Levy over his transfer, something that Levy seems not to agree with. And he stated he would not hand in a transfer request because that would be disrespectful, but announced this in a national newspaper.

    However, Modric also announced that, while he wants to leave Spurs, he doesn't want to leave London, reducing the number of clubs he is willing to turn out for to one. The lack of an auction will further reduce the willingness of Chelsea to pay top dollar. If we are to take Modric's statement at face value, it's Chelsea or Spurs.

    It's been said before that if Spurs want to be taken seriously as a top club, they simply cannot continue to acquiesce every time someone with a big bag of cash starts sniffing around whoever their best player is at the time. That is a football argument, but Levy must also consider the financial argument.

    Modric, combined with a new striker or two, is Tottenham's best chance of getting back into the Champions League, and all the rewards that come with it.

    Sell him, and they'll have some money. However, keep him and they could still get the money, but also have a brilliant playmaker. It would be a gamble, but a gamble worth taking.

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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:12 pm

    You need to hang onto him for another year is that possible. Getting a goal scorer could make all the difference Tevez would be great is he happy at Man City.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:35 pm

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/weekend-sports-breakfast/blog/2011-06-18/caller-modric-better-fabregas-according-football-manager

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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:08 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/weekend-sports-breakfast/blog/2011-06-18/caller-modric-better-fabregas-according-football-manager

    lol!

    That is genius Laugh

    To be fair to him, sounded like he had a good sense of humour.

    The point he was trying to make is valid though, but as is the way with the gimps at talksport completely ignored and instead picked apart on something else.

    If Fabregas is worth 45-50 million, then how is Modric worth 20 million? Would have been better to ask why Henderson is worth 20 million though as I don't think even Arsenal fans would disagree that Modric is worth more than Chelsea are offering
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    Post by fcb Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:10 pm

    Cesc is not worth 40-50m, just like Modric is not worth 20-25m.

    Modric and Cesc will be signed by Chelsea and Barça respectively for around the same fee (approx. 30m GBP) this summer ok

    And rightly so, because IMO both are almost equally good Ale
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    Post by Hlebagone Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:16 pm

    Isn't it nice how Barcelona fans can decide how much the players they are after are worth.

    Can not see anyway how Cesc will go for 30 million. 35 seems reasonable for Modric.

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