HomeGlobo TV showed the Brasil bus arrive at the Maracanã and the stadium exploded.
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Puro wrote:Globo TV showed the Brasil bus arrive at the Maracanã and the stadium exploded.
HOLY SHITE!
Don't fool yourself, Puro. The crowd will sing the anthem, they will chant "brasil, brasil" a few times...then, if Brazil don't score early, the atmosphere at Maracanã will be shit. The most they will do is boo Spain. The majority of them don't really like football or go to club football games...This is like a social event for them.
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Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:Puro wrote:Globo TV showed the Brasil bus arrive at the Maracanã and the stadium exploded.
HOLY SHITE!
Don't fool yourself, Puro. The crowd will sing the anthem, they will chant "brasil, brasil" a few times...then, if Brazil don't score early, the atmosphere at Maracanã will be shit. The most they will do is boo Spain. The majority of them don't really like football or go to club football games...This is like a social event for them.
True.
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Aw, let them enjoy it. They seem to be in good voice and it hasn't even got near kick off. By the way Sheva and Todo, do you think that Marin is a fit and proper person to run Brasilian football after the scandal of Vladimir Herzog?
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EMP wrote:Aw, let them enjoy it. They seem to be in good voice and it hasn't even got near kick off. By the way Sheva and Todo, do you think that Marin is a fit and proper person to run Brasilian football after the scandal of Vladimir Herzog?
I think he's a fit and proper person to be arrested.
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Mongrel Hawk wrote:EMP wrote:Aw, let them enjoy it. They seem to be in good voice and it hasn't even got near kick off. By the way Sheva and Todo, do you think that Marin is a fit and proper person to run Brasilian football after the scandal of Vladimir Herzog?
I think he's a fit and proper person to be arrested.
Tim Vickery says that Dilma Rousseff wants him out and that FIFA are distancing themselves from him. Vickery says some interesting stuff. Interestingly he didn't mention Uruguay as a team to watch next year. His SA tips are Brasil, Argentina and Colombia. He says some interesting stuff on the demos too. 
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after the F1 GP i went to sleep, so i am fit right now
no surprises with the line ups
spains attack looks shitty, i have to say it, fabregas has no role in this team, as false 9 useless, and as midfielder too attacking
Mata/silva have to play in unsuited positions, so you can say, there squad depth is overrated, because outside of the CM positions, they don`t have players who really fit in the system or not good enough, especially in attack, but of COURSE there style makes them look good
i hope brasil wins, but i don`t think that they can match italys performance, they are tactically not good enough
neymar showed that he is really good, and they look like a team, you can feel the team spirit, they have what it takes to win the WC, but i wouldn`t bet on it
no surprises with the line ups
spains attack looks shitty, i have to say it, fabregas has no role in this team, as false 9 useless, and as midfielder too attacking
Mata/silva have to play in unsuited positions, so you can say, there squad depth is overrated, because outside of the CM positions, they don`t have players who really fit in the system or not good enough, especially in attack, but of COURSE there style makes them look good
i hope brasil wins, but i don`t think that they can match italys performance, they are tactically not good enough
neymar showed that he is really good, and they look like a team, you can feel the team spirit, they have what it takes to win the WC, but i wouldn`t bet on it
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EMP wrote:Mongrel Hawk wrote:EMP wrote:Aw, let them enjoy it. They seem to be in good voice and it hasn't even got near kick off. By the way Sheva and Todo, do you think that Marin is a fit and proper person to run Brasilian football after the scandal of Vladimir Herzog?
I think he's a fit and proper person to be arrested.
I like Tim Vickery. He's right about Dilma-Marin-fifa.
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EMP wrote:Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:EMP wrote:I was at the match too. It was a real bitch to get into Belo Horizonte. Some pretty strange policing decisions. Did you credit Thiago Silva with an assist for Cavani's goal?
@ Sheva, Juli and Todo,
Do you know why the manifestations are not demanding that killers such as Sebastiao Curio Rodrigues de Moura and others like him are not brought to justice under the Truth Commission?
Perhaps because the majority of them never heard about him.
The goal of the Truth Comission is to ascertain facts, not to take militaries to jail. They are after the brazilian fa president because he supported the dictatorship and publicly praised torturers at the time. Probably they will try to remove him from his post.
In fact there isn't much to do about it.
Brazil have an amnesty law that retroactively exempts militaries and "left wing people" from criminal liability for crimes committed.
Also in Brazil the statute of limitations for murder is 20 years.
Sheva have you heard of the Inter-American Court of Human Rights? In 2010 it struck down Brasil's 1979 Amnesty law. These gun-point Amnesty laws aren't holding water even in South America any more. There is new evidence relating to the disappeared and that puta Moura. It is similar to what I told Todo about how it could be done. A very similar thing is happening in Colombia and the methods used there apply here. The forensic science is ready to let the disappeared tell their stories. If anyone cares, I can explain how this is done and that it has already succeeded there. I know the people doing it and they are friends of mine. For once the US deserves a lot of credit!
The situation of the military crimes here reminds me of my favourite quote from a Southern US politician: "The search for justice has no statute of limitations. When confronted with the possible miscarriage of justice, even from the distant past, our values compel us to take a second look." : Governor Parris Glendening of Maryland regarding the case of John Snowden, wrongly hanged over 80 years earlier.
Crimes against humanity have no statute of limitations. The ICJ or others can try it if necessary, especially as other Amnesty laws in South America have been cast aside - Chile and Argentina for example. The question here, is whether there is the will to deliver justice for the disappeared. Dictators and their functionaries of any political hue must understand that once they are toppled they will have to answer for crimes against humanity however long it takes. That is the most powerful deterrent to them mounting coups and torturing and killing people. Brasil was not the worst - Gastarrazu Medici excepted - but so what? The crimes of the past shape the future. If they get away with this any future despot knows that all he or she has to do is kill to its so-called heart's content and then amnesty his regime. As far as I'm concerned, that's outrageous. And as for you FA President, kick the bastard out! Ironic that the anti-corruption kick doesn't mention his predecessor Ricardo Texeira and former FIFA President Joao Havelange. What about their proven corruption?
I didn't know that, but in 2010 brazilian Supreme Court decided that the amnesty law is valid. There's no hierarchy between the Supreme Court and the Inter American-Court of Human Rights. Supreme Court members are honest and intelligent men, they are not right wing corrupts.
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Mongrel Hawk wrote:EMP wrote:Mongrel Hawk wrote:EMP wrote:Aw, let them enjoy it. They seem to be in good voice and it hasn't even got near kick off. By the way Sheva and Todo, do you think that Marin is a fit and proper person to run Brasilian football after the scandal of Vladimir Herzog?
I think he's a fit and proper person to be arrested.
I like Tim Vickery. He's right about Dilma-Marin-fifa.
What I don't get about the demos is that they are claiming that Dilma bent over for FIFA, yet she basically told both the CBF and FIFA that Pele was going to be the face of the WC 2014 whether they liked it or not and that she wants Marin out. She doesn't seem to have bent over. THere are definitely issues over the failure to pay for the stadiums privately and the transportation mess of the WC hosts, but that seems to be a mess made by the CBF. Fred scores!
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Ooooh! Let's see how patient Spain are now.
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finally get to see them under some proper pressure .
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Fred seems a good goal scorer. What's he like at club level?
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Luis Gustavo looks weirdly like Nani with a little beard. Dad was obviously a playa.
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Atmosphere is boss. Imagine an England game with this atmosphere 
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Why won't someone just put lawrenson down.
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FIGHT ON!
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Arbeloa slight tug, Neymar throws himself down.
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Jesus how annoying is Neymar? Good thing, I suppose, is that he's laid down his marker. All the refs in the world know what does now.
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Wait hang on a minute, Brazil's number one goal keeper plays for QPR?
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christmasborocooper wrote:Why won't someone just put lawrenson down.
I actually like him, he's being paid to watch football in Brazil and he's still a grumpy c**t.
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Kimbo wrote:christmasborocooper wrote:Why won't someone just put lawrenson down.
I actually like him, he's being paid to watch football in Brazil and he's still a grumpy c**t.
I can see why you like him
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Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:EMP wrote:Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:EMP wrote:I was at the match too. It was a real bitch to get into Belo Horizonte. Some pretty strange policing decisions. Did you credit Thiago Silva with an assist for Cavani's goal?
@ Sheva, Juli and Todo,
Do you know why the manifestations are not demanding that killers such as Sebastiao Curio Rodrigues de Moura and others like him are not brought to justice under the Truth Commission?
Perhaps because the majority of them never heard about him.
The goal of the Truth Comission is to ascertain facts, not to take militaries to jail. They are after the brazilian fa president because he supported the dictatorship and publicly praised torturers at the time. Probably they will try to remove him from his post.
In fact there isn't much to do about it.
Brazil have an amnesty law that retroactively exempts militaries and "left wing people" from criminal liability for crimes committed.
Also in Brazil the statute of limitations for murder is 20 years.
Sheva have you heard of the Inter-American Court of Human Rights? In 2010 it struck down Brasil's 1979 Amnesty law. These gun-point Amnesty laws aren't holding water even in South America any more. There is new evidence relating to the disappeared and that puta Moura. It is similar to what I told Todo about how it could be done. A very similar thing is happening in Colombia and the methods used there apply here. The forensic science is ready to let the disappeared tell their stories. If anyone cares, I can explain how this is done and that it has already succeeded there. I know the people doing it and they are friends of mine. For once the US deserves a lot of credit!
The situation of the military crimes here reminds me of my favourite quote from a Southern US politician: "The search for justice has no statute of limitations. When confronted with the possible miscarriage of justice, even from the distant past, our values compel us to take a second look." : Governor Parris Glendening of Maryland regarding the case of John Snowden, wrongly hanged over 80 years earlier.
Crimes against humanity have no statute of limitations. The ICJ or others can try it if necessary, especially as other Amnesty laws in South America have been cast aside - Chile and Argentina for example. The question here, is whether there is the will to deliver justice for the disappeared. Dictators and their functionaries of any political hue must understand that once they are toppled they will have to answer for crimes against humanity however long it takes. That is the most powerful deterrent to them mounting coups and torturing and killing people. Brasil was not the worst - Gastarrazu Medici excepted - but so what? The crimes of the past shape the future. If they get away with this any future despot knows that all he or she has to do is kill to its so-called heart's content and then amnesty his regime. As far as I'm concerned, that's outrageous. And as for you FA President, kick the bastard out! Ironic that the anti-corruption kick doesn't mention his predecessor Ricardo Texeira and former FIFA President Joao Havelange. What about their proven corruption?
I didn't know that, but in 2010 brazilian Supreme Court decided that the amnesty law is valid. There's no hierarchy between the Supreme Court and the Inter American-Court of Human Rights. Supreme Court members are honest and intelligent men, they are not right wing corrupts.
Sheva, the Inter-American Court of Human Rights is part of the Organisation of American States. Brasil is part of that organisation. It can't just be ignored. For example, before the Confederations Cup its Commission came to Brasil to demand progress on the investigation into the murder of Vladimir Herzog. That could well bite the puta Marin hard!
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Kimbo wrote:christmasborocooper wrote:Why won't someone just put lawrenson down.
I actually like him, he's being paid to watch football in Brazil and he's still a grumpy c**t.
He's not though really is he? It all sounds very forced to me. Like he thinks he's the clever comedic relief.
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I mean what the fuck was that? "he looks like he's been in the fredge as well..." what?
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Stop crowding round the ref every time you fucking spasmoids.
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christmasborocooper wrote:I mean what the fuck was that? "he looks like he's been in the fredge as well..." what?
Lawro's dodgy puns are the only thing keeping him in a job now Hansen's off.
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How can Brazil get so outraged when Oscar just got away with a blatant hack??
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Lawrenson you utter pleb.Similar topics
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