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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:58 pm

    Mario Gomez is basically the Spanish-German Luca Toni. Big lumbering immobile oafs with decent touch and excellent finishing. Both very good in terms of output at club level, less so at international level.

    That he's at Fiorentina was written in the stars
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    Post by abundance Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:58 pm

    110% wrote:Gomez is 28
    oh lol I was so sure he was 26.
    This changes my perception a bit
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:22 am

    Isco Benny wrote:Mario Gomez is basically the Spanish-German Luca Toni. Big lumbering immobile oafs with decent touch and excellent finishing. Both very good in terms of output at club level, less so at international level.

    That he's at Fiorentina was written in the stars

    I think Toni was a bit more than that, he was just awesome at holding up the ball, and also had a good first touch passing ability. I see a lot of Toni in Milito, though Milito has more ability with the ball.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:40 am

    Kroos wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    abundance wrote:
    Kroos wrote:are they only here for mario gomez? or was this the season opening !!

    It was only for Gomez presentation ;-)

    Firenze is crazy for Fiorentina, they have a very romantic and passionate following, despite (or maybe because of) the many up and downs and burning delusions in their history.

    After some years of lack of care from the owners, they orgasmed last season for the football quality the team immediately produced, somewhat unexpectedly, after a big renovation.
    Then they had the cold shower of failing CL qualification in the last five mins of the season, and now they just can't believe that Della Valle bros are willing to invest and bring in what is such a high profile signing for them despite missing on the CL money.
    Enthusiasm is cranked at eleven, if Gomez can adapt fast to the new league and keep on with his Bayern's goalscoring ratio, he's gonna be a local legend before christmas

    Gomez for Jovetic is a step down for la Viola.  

    i don`t know what you see in Jovetic, his stats look average at best

    i know you see in him baggio, but come on, nice touches don`t make a good footballer

    gomez will have a far bigger impact then this kid will ever make in world football

    sure in terms of flair and potential, not so sure in terms of impact and end product. this

    you dont know the real potential from gomez blue, playing for bayern is like playing against a wall, now for fiorentina he will have more space, because fiorentina is not huge favourite in every game, the opponent won`t hide, and they are not a possession side, i expect 25+ goals in every season

    Stats rarely tell the whole story, mate. Jovetic is so much more than the goals, and his goal scoring is getting better with time. He is 23, and lets not forget that he lost a year due to injury, so he will most likely develop further. So yes, its also about future potential here, not just current ability. He is pretty much a player in the Baggio mold, though not as good. In World Cup 1990, Schillaci may have scored twice as many goals as Baggio, but anyone who saw those games will tell you which one of them was the great player.

    Not saying that Gomez is any way less of a player than you describe. With the Viola midfield & wings, he will most likely score a lot of goals. Like Abundance mentioned, perhaps Viola need a player like Gomez more than a player like Jovetic. But the creative ability of scoring goals out of no where is very rare, and that will be missed. The magic will be missed. And the space he creates for is team mates because the opposition defenders are so wary of his magic, that will be missed.
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    Post by Kroos Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:58 am

    110% wrote:Are you talking league goals? Because Gomez is 28 and he only had 2 seasons where he scored 25+ league goals.

    league goals yes, gomez is now at his peak

    2010 van gaal was else to say
    2012 and 2011 were world class seasons (including 20 cl goals)

    he almost scored as many goals as Mandzukic in this season, with half of the playtime of mandzukic
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    Post by 110% Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:19 am

    Kroos wrote:
    110% wrote:Are you talking league goals? Because Gomez is 28 and he only had 2 seasons where he scored 25+ league goals.

    league goals yes, gomez is now at his peak

    2010 van gaal was else to say
    2012 and 2011 were world class seasons (including 20 cl goals)

    he almost scored as many goals as Mandzukic in this season, with half of the playtime of mandzukic

    Yeah, but no-one is saying mandzukic is any good, even you only put him as a backup along with pizarro for next season, and just imagine what happens when lewandowski gets there, he ends up 3rd/4th choice, so that would have made Gomez 5th choice.

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    our forward line is even more impressive

    müller-------götze-------ribery

    robben----pizarro/mm---shaqiri

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    Post by Romford Pele Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:28 am

    bluenine wrote:
    Kroos wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    abundance wrote:
    Kroos wrote:are they only here for mario gomez? or was this the season opening !!

    It was only for Gomez presentation ;-)

    Firenze is crazy for Fiorentina, they have a very romantic and passionate following, despite (or maybe because of) the many up and downs and burning delusions in their history.

    After some years of lack of care from the owners, they orgasmed last season for the football quality the team immediately produced, somewhat unexpectedly, after a big renovation.
    Then they had the cold shower of failing CL qualification in the last five mins of the season, and now they just can't believe that Della Valle bros are willing to invest and bring in what is such a high profile signing for them despite missing on the CL money.
    Enthusiasm is cranked at eleven, if Gomez can adapt fast to the new league and keep on with his Bayern's goalscoring ratio, he's gonna be a local legend before christmas

    Gomez for Jovetic is a step down for la Viola.  

    i don`t know what you see in Jovetic, his stats look average at best

    i know you see in him baggio, but come on, nice touches don`t make a good footballer

    gomez will have a far bigger impact then this kid will ever make in world football

    sure in terms of flair and potential, not so sure in terms of impact and end product. this

    you dont know the real potential from gomez blue, playing for bayern is like playing against a wall, now for fiorentina he will have more space, because fiorentina is not huge favourite in every game, the opponent won`t hide, and they are not a possession side, i expect 25+ goals in every season

    Stats rarely tell the whole story, mate. Jovetic is so much more than the goals, and his goal scoring is getting better with time. He is 23, and lets not forget that he lost a year due to injury, so he will most likely develop further. So yes, its also about future potential here, not just current ability. He is pretty much a player in the Baggio mold, though not as good. In World Cup 1990, Schillaci may have scored twice as many goals as Baggio, but anyone who saw those games will tell you which one of them was the great player.

    Not saying that Gomez is any way less of a player than you describe. With the Viola midfield & wings, he will most likely score a lot of goals. Like Abundance mentioned, perhaps Viola need a player like Gomez more than a player like Jovetic. But the creative ability of scoring goals out of no where is very rare, and that will be missed. The magic will be missed. And the space he creates for is team mates because the opposition defenders are so wary of his magic, that will be missed.


    ok My favourite player in world football right now, annoyed that City will get him Sad
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    Post by Kroos Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:24 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    Kroos wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    abundance wrote:
    Kroos wrote:are they only here for mario gomez? or was this the season opening !!

    It was only for Gomez presentation ;-)

    Firenze is crazy for Fiorentina, they have a very romantic and passionate following, despite (or maybe because of) the many up and downs and burning delusions in their history.

    After some years of lack of care from the owners, they orgasmed last season for the football quality the team immediately produced, somewhat unexpectedly, after a big renovation.
    Then they had the cold shower of failing CL qualification in the last five mins of the season, and now they just can't believe that Della Valle bros are willing to invest and bring in what is such a high profile signing for them despite missing on the CL money.
    Enthusiasm is cranked at eleven, if Gomez can adapt fast to the new league and keep on with his Bayern's goalscoring ratio, he's gonna be a local legend before christmas

    Gomez for Jovetic is a step down for la Viola.  

    i don`t know what you see in Jovetic, his stats look average at best

    i know you see in him baggio, but come on, nice touches don`t make a good footballer

    gomez will have a far bigger impact then this kid will ever make in world football

    sure in terms of flair and potential, not so sure in terms of impact and end product. this

    you dont know the real potential from gomez blue, playing for bayern is like playing against a wall, now for fiorentina he will have more space, because fiorentina is not huge favourite in every game, the opponent won`t hide, and they are not a possession side, i expect 25+ goals in every season



    Not saying that Gomez is any way less of a player than you describe. With the Viola midfield & wings, he will most likely score a lot of goals. Like Abundance mentioned, perhaps Viola need a player like Gomez more than a player like Jovetic. But the creative ability of scoring goals out of no where is very rare, and that will be missed. The magic will be missed. And the space he creates for is team mates because the opposition defenders are so wary of his magic, that will be missed.

    i don`t know what you mean with magic, özil/götze/müller/reus magic? jovetic is hardly in the same bracket, and he never will be

    maybe more the next benzema, flair player but still shit
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:26 pm

    Your bias holds no bounds Kroos. Watch more of Jovetic before commenting.
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    Post by Kroos Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:33 pm

    Romford Pele wrote:Your bias holds no bounds Kroos. Watch more of Jovetic before commenting.

    he is almost 24, and has hardly taken the serie a by storm
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:59 pm

    Kroos wrote:
    i don`t know what you mean with magic, özil/götze/müller/reus magic? jovetic is hardly in the same bracket, and he never will be

    maybe more the next benzema, flair player but still shit

    Muller is a good comparison. Jovetic is like Muller, only a bit more gifted and a whole lot more charming. Razz
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    Post by abundance Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:40 pm

    Kroos wrote:
    i don`t know what you mean with magic, özil/götze/müller/reus magic?
    Of course not Kroos.
    And not even in the Schürrle/Draxler/Marin/Herrmann/Clemens/Holtby/Hegeler/Felix Kroos/Cacau bracket of magic obviously.

    But among those cute puny Muggles that insist on practicing fußball despite not being eligible to play for the Mannschaft, I heard that he got some recognition for not being so hopelessly coarse as his patent lack of teutonicity would imply.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:56 pm

    abundance wrote:
    Kroos wrote:
    i don`t know what you mean with magic, özil/götze/müller/reus magic?
    Of course not Kroos.
    And not even in the Schürrle/Draxler/Marin/Herrmann/Clemens/Holtby/Hegeler/Felix Kroos/Cacau bracket of magic obviously.

    But among those cute puny Muggles that insist on practicing fußball despite not being eligible to play for the Mannschaft, I heard that he got some recognition for not being so hopelessly coarse as his patent lack of teutonicity would imply.  

    lol! 
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:19 am

    Sassuolo won the TIM Trophy! They beat Milan, and drew with Juve. lol! 

    Thank you Sassuolo, you made my day...
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:36 pm

    No ESPN on SKY or Virgin as of Thursday Grr 

    BT now own ESPN and ESPN HD Channels.
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    Post by Murray Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:56 pm

    How to play offside

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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:28 pm

    Couldn't get away with that nowadays. Offside only counts if you are the intended target of the pass.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:37 am

    Deluded F*ck™ wrote:Couldn't get away with that nowadays. Offside only counts if you are the intended target of the pass.
    I think the defensive revolution that Sacchi & Co created had something to do with the series of offside rule changes that followed....
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    Post by Tarun Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:53 pm

    Hellas Verona shock Milan!
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    Post by Murray Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:55 pm

    Berlusconi on the phone to Galliani, "told you we should have fired Allegri".
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    Post by bluenine Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:10 pm

    Take a long hard look people. The table hasn't looked like this for a while, and will not look like this for a few more years at least...

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    cheers 
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    Post by Murray Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:21 pm

    Give it another 10 minutes & Napoli will be top
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    Post by Jaime Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:52 pm

    Nice to see that Rossi finally scored. Hope he has finally put his injury concerns behind him for good!
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    Post by Murray Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:50 pm

    Napoli won 4-2 at Chievo, good job I didn't start a Nap0-0li thread.
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    Post by bluenine Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:22 pm

    Murray wrote:Napoli won 4-2 at Chievo, good job I didn't start a Nap0-0li thread.
    Benitez 1-0 Murray cheers 

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    Post by Tarun Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:23 pm

    C'mon Conte...we wanna see Llorente
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    Post by Tarun Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:27 pm

    Wooohooo...what a gem by Tevez!!!

    I am sure gonna be starting a Tevez Vs Jovetic thread
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    Post by Super Progress Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:31 pm

    I can't wait to see this Juve side in Cl.

    Imagine if they also manage to integrate the old Llorente into this side

    drunken 

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    Post by Tarun Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:34 pm

    ok
    Super Mourinho wrote:I can't wait to see this Juve side in Cl.

    Imagine if they also manage to integrate the old Llorente into this side

    drunken 

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    Post by bluenine Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:14 pm

    Other results:

    FT Roma 3 - 0 Hellas Verona
    FT AC Milan 3 - 1 Cagliari
    FT Atalanta 2 - 0 Torino
    FT Bologna 2 - 2 Sampdoria
    FT Catania 0 - 3 Inter
    FT Genoa 2 - 5 Fiorentina
    FT Sassuolo 1 - 4 Livorno
    FT Udinese 3 - 1 Parma


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