messiah wrote:its funny when you look at those prices how much of a fail the top 5 were in retrospect, given there price, reputation and what the actually won .
c.ronaldo 1 liga
ronaldo 1 liga
zidane 1 liga 1 cl
figo has been the most successful. but probably gets the least hype 2 liga, 1 cl
akais just a big ;lol:
given that 1 of the league title for figo,zidane and ronaldo happen the same time and the cl for figo and zidane
.
that's well over 200m euros for 3 league titles and 1 cl between them.
only gaspart was worst but at least the entire would knows this but that kinda spending for real isn't as great as it appears at first glance.
Fey wrote:Well the should have gave me the job! I would buy only footballers for Madrid. Besides I warned them about the likes of Huntelaar and Midget.
From that list who DIDNT fail!
I would say: Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Robben(50-50), Alonso, Benzema(50-50) Ramos.
One could even argue about Pepe.
debaser wrote:had to google Elvir Baljic
another important lesson would be: avoid Diarras
Isco Benny wrote:Woodgate
But seriously though, would anyone shed a tear if Marca's HQ went up in flames? Bunch of nobheads rivalling the Daily Mail in terms of pure cuntery
Sure in pure footballing terms it's a bad ROI but this is disregarding a big part of Perez's plan which was that those players make the club money if handled correctly which is clearly what happened. I think Perez tripled our income in a couple of years. It set the club up for when Perez left the club even though Calderon wasn't able to use it properly.Jaime wrote:messiah wrote:its funny when you look at those prices how much of a fail the top 5 were in retrospect, given there price, reputation and what the actually won .
c.ronaldo 1 liga
ronaldo 1 liga
zidane 1 liga 1 cl
figo has been the most successful. but probably gets the least hype 2 liga, 1 cl
akais just a big ;lol:
given that 1 of the league title for figo,zidane and ronaldo happen the same time and the cl for figo and zidane
.
that's well over 200m euros for 3 league titles and 1 cl between them.
only gaspart was worst but at least the entire would knows this but that kinda spending for real isn't as great as it appears at first glance.
Really an indictment of the Florentino era. Of course Calderon was there for some of the more atrocious signings but like you say, it's not much return on the investment.
Jaime wrote:Fey wrote:Well the should have gave me the job! I would buy only footballers for Madrid. Besides I warned them about the likes of Huntelaar and Midget.
From that list who DIDNT fail!
I would say: Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Robben(50-50), Alonso, Benzema(50-50) Ramos.
One could even argue about Pepe.
Pepe has been good but for the amount of games he has missed from injury and suspensions I don't really think he was worth 30m. Benzema so far is a fail for me. And even Robben, he won one league title here not exactly what you expect from a 36m euro signing. Maybe if he stayed he would have won more but who knows...
Super Mourinho wrote:Sure in pure footballing terms it's a bad ROI but this is disregarding a big part of Perez's plan which was that those players make the club money if handled correctly which is clearly what happened. I think Perez tripled our income in a couple of years. It set the club up for when Perez left the club even though Calderon wasn't able to use it properly.Jaime wrote:messiah wrote:its funny when you look at those prices how much of a fail the top 5 were in retrospect, given there price, reputation and what the actually won .
c.ronaldo 1 liga
ronaldo 1 liga
zidane 1 liga 1 cl
figo has been the most successful. but probably gets the least hype 2 liga, 1 cl
akais just a big ;lol:
given that 1 of the league title for figo,zidane and ronaldo happen the same time and the cl for figo and zidane
.
that's well over 200m euros for 3 league titles and 1 cl between them.
only gaspart was worst but at least the entire would knows this but that kinda spending for real isn't as great as it appears at first glance.
Really an indictment of the Florentino era. Of course Calderon was there for some of the more atrocious signings but like you say, it's not much return on the investment.
messiah wrote:laporta also trippled our revenues without making so many big star signings at a crazy cost only ibra and that's without a crazy land deal, we love to give perez a bit more credit than he deserves as a business man, anyone who signed those players would have seen a r.o.i in terms of revenues as they are/were some of the biggest stars in the game, at the end off the day we have to look at them in both regards and find a balance i guess.
oh laporta trippled our revenues without a shirt deal as well. also won more too, just saying
lastly as much as i like fat ronaldo he would be a failure in my eyes if he played for us. one league title seriously for one of the greatest strikers ever. especially considering the talent around.
the cl final goal, as is the case with zidane's career he was saved by a moment.
but for one of the best players ever, would have expected more.
look at what valencia did in round about the same time period, 2 ligas,2 cl final, 1 eufa cup.
Fey wrote:Jaime wrote:Fey wrote:Well the should have gave me the job! I would buy only footballers for Madrid. Besides I warned them about the likes of Huntelaar and Midget.
From that list who DIDNT fail!
I would say: Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Robben(50-50), Alonso, Benzema(50-50) Ramos.
One could even argue about Pepe.
Pepe has been good but for the amount of games he has missed from injury and suspensions I don't really think he was worth 30m. Benzema so far is a fail for me. And even Robben, he won one league title here not exactly what you expect from a 36m euro signing. Maybe if he stayed he would have won more but who knows...
So basically just Ronaldox2, Zidane, Figo, Alonso and Ramos?
I think we can come to one conclusion only! Madrid shouldnt be allowed to make ANY transfer, and if they make one, it has to be a spanish player!
I'm not saying the club has used money well over the years. My point is exactly that the none strategic signings are the worst ones because they did nothing for the club. Sneijder is a perfect example of that imo.Jaime wrote:Super Mourinho wrote:Sure in pure footballing terms it's a bad ROI but this is disregarding a big part of Perez's plan which was that those players make the club money if handled correctly which is clearly what happened. I think Perez tripled our income in a couple of years. It set the club up for when Perez left the club even though Calderon wasn't able to use it properly.Jaime wrote:messiah wrote:its funny when you look at those prices how much of a fail the top 5 were in retrospect, given there price, reputation and what the actually won .
c.ronaldo 1 liga
ronaldo 1 liga
zidane 1 liga 1 cl
figo has been the most successful. but probably gets the least hype 2 liga, 1 cl
akais just a big ;lol:
given that 1 of the league title for figo,zidane and ronaldo happen the same time and the cl for figo and zidane
.
that's well over 200m euros for 3 league titles and 1 cl between them.
only gaspart was worst but at least the entire would knows this but that kinda spending for real isn't as great as it appears at first glance.
Really an indictment of the Florentino era. Of course Calderon was there for some of the more atrocious signings but like you say, it's not much return on the investment.
I suppose there is some truth to this. And to be fair a lot of the really big fails weren't Florentino signings. But neither Di Maria nor Coentrao nor Flavio Conceicao nor Samuel for example, were strategic signings that helped to boost the clubs revenues.
Isco Benny wrote:Woodgate
But seriously though, would anyone shed a tear if Marca's HQ went up in flames? Bunch of nobheads rivalling the Daily Mail in terms of pure cuntery
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