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    Post by stinger Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:09 pm

    messiah wrote:That looked in the box to me, maybe my stress is poor, Madrid have gotten a few calls already this season, at least one in the first two games.
    No, it wasn't.
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    Post by Cristiano Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:19 pm

    Kroos wrote:
    Cristiano wrote:
    Kroos wrote:carlo a. style is just awful to watch

    ronaldos goal/game ratio will drop, i expect 30 % less goals from him
    Surprise surprise Kroos things Real Madrid is awful to watch. The sky is blue.
    i loved mous style, i loved watching real madrid

    but now it`s a pain in the ass

    but it may work in the CL, less spectacular, more organized
    Nonesense. You made it your daily purpose to point out how shit we are
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    Post by Cristiano Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:19 pm

    Modric has been fantastic today
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    Post by TM Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:30 pm

    Cristiano wrote:Modric has been fantastic today
    ok

    Absolute beast at recovering the ball.

    Isco with another goal today <Ale>
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    Post by Kroos Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:34 pm

    Cristiano wrote:
    Kroos wrote:
    Cristiano wrote:
    Kroos wrote:carlo a. style is just awful to watch

    ronaldos goal/game ratio will drop, i expect 30 % less goals from him
    Surprise surprise Kroos things Real Madrid is awful to watch. The sky is blue.
    i loved mous style, i loved watching real madrid

    but now it`s a pain in the ass

    but it may work in the CL, less spectacular, more organized
    Nonesense. You made it your daily purpose to point out how shit we are
    not really, look in the european cup section

    i think i picked real madrid as 2nd favourite for the cl title

    i was to early to judge them, they really got better after 20 min
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:52 pm

    Kroos wrote:
    Cristiano wrote:
    Kroos wrote:carlo a. style is just awful to watch

    ronaldos goal/game ratio will drop, i expect 30 % less goals from him
    Surprise surprise Kroos things Real Madrid is awful to watch. The sky is blue.
    i loved mous style, i loved watching real madrid

    but now it`s a pain in the ass

    but it may work in the CL, less spectacular, more organized
    lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! 

    I remember quite clearly who were on Team Mourinho and who were traitors(Ramos, Iker, Jaime, etc). You were much closer to the traitors.

    Also I have to say I think you're completely wrong on this one. The current Ancelotti side is much more fluid(a negative in my world when it comes at the expense of defence) and open. This side is still in the making but I suspect we will get more of the "neutrals" to like us as the players get to understand Ancelotti. Puke!

    With that said there are certainly positives in this game. Modric is more and more looking like our new leader in midfield(goodbye Illarramendi+Alonso) and Khedira didn't destroy our game too much which was a surprise to me.

    Jese looks very fresh and has to get used to this level fast. This isn't U-21 anymore. Morata is already ready if less talented. Jese better work his ass off in the meantime.

    Hardly noticed Ozil wasn't there to be honest. We need to test this some more but maybe we don't need him already. Isco is delivering the one area where I wanted him to which is goals but surprisingly he is quite good at passing. Also Di Maria is really up for it so I truly hope the Bale transfer gets botched.
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    Post by Cristiano Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:53 pm

    Modric Man Of The Match.

    We are starting to see the real Modric, as I said in preseason I was really looking forward to Modric this season.
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:34 pm

    You were right

    The first match didn't give me confidence in him and I was starting to wonder if he was going to be a failure after a nice ending to last season. But today he showed himself as somebody who could lead even with a donkey like Khedira by his side. While Khedira was fine today we need to see one of Illarramendi, Alonso, Casemiro next to Modric to see how this will work out. At the moment though it looks like we can safely ease Alonso out of the club if he really wants to move.
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:18 pm


    Mesut Ozil omission not transfer-related

    Carlo Ancelotti says he is not surprised Mesut Ozil is unhappy to be spending so much time on Real Madrid’s bench, but insisted dropping him for Sunday’s 3-1 La Liga win over Athletic Bilbao had nothing to do with reported interest from Manchester United and Arsenal.

    Ozil was rumoured to be unsettled after being substituted early in both Madrid’s opening Primera Division games, while his father and agent was reportedly disappointed with Madrid's negative response to the suggestion of a pay-rise to bring the Germany international's annual salary closer to that of expected new team-mate Gareth Bale.

    Even public comments by Ozil Jnr that he was very happy at the Bernabeu, and had no intention of leaving, did not kill speculation that a €50 million transfer to the Premier League could take place before this summer’s transfer window slams shut.

    Asked by reporters at the Bernabeu after Sunday's victory, in which Ozil was an unused substitute, Ancelotti said he would expect any player to want to play every game, but there was nothing to his decision to choose Angel Di Maria for this particular game.

    “It is normal that he [Ozil] is unhappy,” Ancelotti said. “I do not like players to be happy on the bench. It was a technical decision to put in Di Maria, who has a lot of rhythm and intensity, nothing more.”

    With Gareth Bale’s €90 million plus move from Tottenham and Kaka’s potential return to Milan still both up in the air, Ancelotti accepted a suggestion that Monday could be a busy day in the Bernabeu’s offices.

    “I do not know really what will happen tomorrow,” he said. “I cannot say today that the squad is this. It could be that anything changes, exits and arrivals.”

    One player who will remain at Madrid is Fabio Coentrao, who is not moving to Spurs as part of the Bale deal, or going anywhere else, Ancelotti stated.

    “Fabio Coentrao is staying,” he said. “He had said he wanted to leave, but I did not want that. Everyone -- the players, the coaches, the club, is very happy with this decision.”

    Madrid won the game with two goals from Isco and a Cristiano Ronado header -- his first of the season and 202nd in 202 games for the club.

    Reported Arsenal target Karim Benzema provided assists for both Isco’s goals, but was still whistled by some in the Bernabeu crowd, Shocked something Ancelotti said was unfair.

    “Today something was very clear,” Ancelotti said. “Benzema was whistled a little, all the stadium applauded Di Maria. That shows the fans look a lot at the work being done. Benzema is in a different position, where you do not need to work as much. The sign today was that work is applauded.”

    Ancelotti professed to be happy overall with the performance, which maintained Madrid’s 100% cent start to the new season.

    “It was a good game,” he said. “We did not begin the game with much intensity, but from 20 minutes in we started to play with more rhythm. The first half was good, we played well. I believe the team is improving.”
    Why was Benzema booed? Are those stupid fans trying to chase him out of the club or something.
    But I'm happy they supported Di Maria.

    We should give Ozil a new contract with clause that he gets paid extra for every assist in a knock out game in Cl.Wink 
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:47 pm

    Kaka to Milan seems very close. I know he has struggled at Real Madrid, but has he shown anything that may suggest that he can offset his diminishing pace by other qualities? I remember he was pretty decent a few months ago.
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    Post by Jaime Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:10 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Kaka to Milan seems very close. I know he has struggled at Real Madrid, but has he shown anything that may suggest that he can offset his diminishing pace by other qualities? I remember he was pretty decent a few months ago.
    I think Kaka really suffered because of Jose's insistence of playing 100 mph on the counter at every opportunity and as you say his pace has completely deserted him. He tried to run past defenders and it just didn't work. I think in this preseason with Ancelotti's emphasis on keeping the ball, Kaka showed that if he plays one and two touch passes and doesn't try to hold the ball too long that he can still be effective and he can still finish if he can find the time and space to really line up his shot but the club had already moved on and brought in Modric last year and Isco this year (plus Ozil). The one thing that was really infuriating, even under Jose, is that Kaka did not work for the team at all. He would lose the ball and then just shrug and trot back. Or complain to the official whilst the play continued in the other direction. I don't remember if he was different in Milan but it is a big problem that he has had since coming to Madrid at least. So I guess it depends on who will play around him in Milan and what he will be asked to do.
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    Post by Jaime Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:12 pm

    Super Mourinho wrote:

    Mesut Ozil omission not transfer-related

    Carlo Ancelotti says he is not surprised Mesut Ozil is unhappy to be spending so much time on Real Madrid’s bench, but insisted dropping him for Sunday’s 3-1 La Liga win over Athletic Bilbao had nothing to do with reported interest from Manchester United and Arsenal.

    Ozil was rumoured to be unsettled after being substituted early in both Madrid’s opening Primera Division games, while his father and agent was reportedly disappointed with Madrid's negative response to the suggestion of a pay-rise to bring the Germany international's annual salary closer to that of expected new team-mate Gareth Bale.

    Even public comments by Ozil Jnr that he was very happy at the Bernabeu, and had no intention of leaving, did not kill speculation that a €50 million transfer to the Premier League could take place before this summer’s transfer window slams shut.

    Asked by reporters at the Bernabeu after Sunday's victory, in which Ozil was an unused substitute, Ancelotti said he would expect any player to want to play every game, but there was nothing to his decision to choose Angel Di Maria for this particular game.

    “It is normal that he [Ozil] is unhappy,” Ancelotti said. “I do not like players to be happy on the bench. It was a technical decision to put in Di Maria, who has a lot of rhythm and intensity, nothing more.”

    With Gareth Bale’s €90 million plus move from Tottenham and Kaka’s potential return to Milan still both up in the air, Ancelotti accepted a suggestion that Monday could be a busy day in the Bernabeu’s offices.

    “I do not know really what will happen tomorrow,” he said. “I cannot say today that the squad is this. It could be that anything changes, exits and arrivals.”

    One player who will remain at Madrid is Fabio Coentrao, who is not moving to Spurs as part of the Bale deal, or going anywhere else, Ancelotti stated.

    “Fabio Coentrao is staying,” he said. “He had said he wanted to leave, but I did not want that. Everyone -- the players, the coaches, the club, is very happy with this decision.”

    Madrid won the game with two goals from Isco and a Cristiano Ronado header -- his first of the season and 202nd in 202 games for the club.

    Reported Arsenal target Karim Benzema provided assists for both Isco’s goals, but was still whistled by some in the Bernabeu crowd, Shocked something Ancelotti said was unfair.

    “Today something was very clear,” Ancelotti said. “Benzema was whistled a little, all the stadium applauded Di Maria. That shows the fans look a lot at the work being done. Benzema is in a different position, where you do not need to work as much. The sign today was that work is applauded.”

    Ancelotti professed to be happy overall with the performance, which maintained Madrid’s 100% cent start to the new season.

    “It was a good game,” he said. “We did not begin the game with much intensity, but from 20 minutes in we started to play with more rhythm. The first half was good, we played well. I believe the team is improving.”
    Why was Benzema booed? Are those stupid fans trying to chase him out of the club or something.
    But I'm happy they supported Di Maria.

    We should give Ozil a new contract with clause that he gets paid extra for every assist in a knock out game in Cl.Wink 
    Benzema was jeered for the same reason he is always jeered - he is a lazy fcker who looks as if he can't be bothered.
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    Post by messiah Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:17 pm

    Its done cheers 
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:25 pm

    Transfer fee around €100m, six year contract, €10m annual wages.

    You're out of your fucking mind.

    The irony of this becoming official on the day it becomes more and more likely that Kaka is going to leave, arguably the biggest transfer flop in European football considering the transfer fee and wages you paid for him, the length of his stay and the performances on the pitch.
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    Post by TM Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:37 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Transfer fee around €100m, six year contract, €10m annual wages.

    You're out of your fucking mind.

    The irony of this becoming official on the day it becomes more and more likely that Kaka is going to leave, arguably the biggest transfer flop in European football considering the transfer fee and wages you paid for him, the length of his stay and the performances on the pitch.
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    Post by Fey Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:48 pm

    First transfer that made the Dutch parliament. How can one still support Bankia when they stand on their turn for Madrid who makes this outrageous transfer. He is not even an actual good footballer. He showed fuck all on the highest level...this puts the transfers of Kaka, Caroll in perspective.
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    Post by Cristiano Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:50 pm

    TM wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:Transfer fee around €100m, six year contract, €10m annual wages.

    You're out of your fucking mind.

    The irony of this becoming official on the day it becomes more and more likely that Kaka is going to leave, arguably the biggest transfer flop in European football considering the transfer fee and wages you paid for him, the length of his stay and the performances on the pitch.
    ok
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    Post by Brian2468 Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:53 pm

    Going to be a better player for you than Luis Figo.... Ale It is going to be great watching him prove the naysayers completely incorrect. Very Happy
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:03 pm

    I'm no naysayer. I don't even care about Bale to be honest and wish him the best. It's just that Real Madrid are such an shitty run club of epic proportions.

    Transfers aren't planned and made to strengthen the team foremost, but for advertising reasons and to make a 'statement'. It's the stereotype of the gaudi, flashy (latin) nouveau-riche prole who buys status symbols as a means of making himself known. It's basically the same thing as the Man City or PSG owners do on a regular basis, with the important difference that Real Madrid already have the status and history, as they do have a number of good players, but they still have the urge to join the penis sword fight. It lacks class, it's cheap and it's pitiful.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:08 pm

    JUST TERRIBLE. Wink  I wonder when he will get his first start.
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    Post by Cristiano Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:10 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:I'm no naysayer. I don't even care about Bale to be honest and wish him the best. It's just that Real Madrid are such an shitty run club of epic proportions.

    Transfers aren't planned and made to strengthen the team foremost, but for advertising reasons and to make a 'statement'. It's the stereotype of the gaudi, flashy (latin) nouveau-riche prole who buys status symbols as a means of making himself known. It's basically the same thing as the Man City or PSG owners do on a regular basis, with the important difference that Real Madrid already have the status and history, as they do have a number of good players, but they still have the urge to join the penis sword fight. It lacks class, it's cheap and it's pitiful.
    You taking this Bale signing personal Laughing 

    I disapprove but calm down.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:19 pm

    I'm calm as it gets actually, probably because I know how this 'strategy' ends. Ale

    50% of the young Spanish workforce is unemployed, but they're expected to shell out the cash so these dickwads can splash it. You better hope all those Arab, Asian and American fans continue to buy Cristiano merchandise.
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    Post by Cristiano Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:32 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:I'm calm as it gets actually, probably because I know how this 'strategy' ends. Ale

    50% of the young Spanish workforce is unemployed, but they're expected to shell out the cash so these dickwads can splash it. You better hope all those Arab, Asian and American fans continue to buy Cristiano merchandise.
    I'm just interested in watching football not politicising it, I got better shit to do with my time thank you than get all bent out of shape because a football team is spending a lot of money.
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:37 pm

    Cristiano wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:I'm no naysayer. I don't even care about Bale to be honest and wish him the best. It's just that Real Madrid are such an shitty run club of epic proportions.

    Transfers aren't planned and made to strengthen the team foremost, but for advertising reasons and to make a 'statement'. It's the stereotype of the gaudi, flashy (latin) nouveau-riche prole who buys status symbols as a means of making himself known. It's basically the same thing as the Man City or PSG owners do on a regular basis, with the important difference that Real Madrid already have the status and history, as they do have a number of good players, but they still have the urge to join the penis sword fight. It lacks class, it's cheap and it's pitiful.
    You taking this Bale signing personal Laughing 

    I disapprove but calm down.
    Biggrin 

    Brian
    Nobody is disputing Bale's ability. He was great the way he delivered for Tottenham at the of last season but I don't see how he fits in with the players we have or the style Ancelotti wants to play. This looks like Beckham Part II.

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    Nobody is forcing the Spanish youth to see Real Madrid so I feel no obligation to not spend cash. I don't see how they are made better off if we buy nobody. I always thought that sort of argument was particularly poor. And Perez has always bet on the global market and I don't he will squeeze every dime out of Bale. I could care less about showing class and all the other nonsense.
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:41 pm

    Cristiano wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:I'm calm as it gets actually, probably because I know how this 'strategy' ends. Ale

    50% of the young Spanish workforce is unemployed, but they're expected to shell out the cash so these dickwads can splash it. You better hope all those Arab, Asian and American fans continue to buy Cristiano merchandise.
    I'm just interested in watching football not politicising it, I got better shit to do with my time thank you than get all bent out of shape because a football team is spending a lot of money.
    <Ale> 
    I can't help but laugh at self righteous people who talk about high transfer fees as if they were the moral equivalent of some crime. For some reason some people think it is bad to use money in football on football players. Arsenal is a perfect example of the opposite of Real Madrid. Should they be praised for not spending money? Is it better the money stays in the football x instead of football y?
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:51 pm

    Why am I not surprised that you couldn't care less about the lack of class? Biggrin

    The Spanish youth is the future of Spain, not Real Madrid. If you can't see the crass constrast of a country being bailed out by Europe, with great parts of its population living in poverty, and obscene amounts of money paid for a football player to make a 'statement', you're beyond hope. It's the same Spanish banks Europe is bailing out that actually finance this ridiculous transfer.

    I wonder if the Real fans on here would be saying the same if they actually lived in Spain.
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:57 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Why am I not surprised that you couldn't care less about the lack of class? Biggrin

    The Spanish youth is the future of Spain, not Real Madrid. If you can't see the crass constrast of a country being bailed out by Europe, with great parts of its population living in poverty, and obscene amounts of money paid for a football player to make a 'statement', you're beyond hope. It's the same Spanish banks Europe is bailing out that actually finance this ridiculous transfer.

    I wonder if the Real fans on here would be saying the same if they actually lived in Spain.
    Perhaps because I have continually said that I don't care about that stuff? Wink 

    Again how are the Spanish youth made worse off by what Real Madrid does?

    And so what if the Spanish banks are financing this transfer? Are they only allowed to make stupid loans on useless government bonds.

    I don't really care what Real Madrid fans in Spain think.
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    Post by TM Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:00 pm

    In relation to transfer fee, I had previously read that it was intended to paid in instalments i.e. over 5 years. This would the big difference between this transfer and that of CR, where the club had to pay the entire fee in one instalment.
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    Post by Puro Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:07 pm

    People discussing the Bale transfer now. lol! 

    <Ale> <Ale> <Ale> to the NY-Miami connection...always many steps ahead of the mob. Biggrin 
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    Post by Murray Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:33 pm

    If Real have borrowed the Bale money from a dodgy Spanish bank, Angela Merkel is going to be hopping mad.

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