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    Post by Brian 2468 Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:39 pm

    The tempo Spurs plays is Pochettino Pochettino Pochettino scaredy cats footy.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:45 pm

    Sherwood out
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    Post by Fey Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:00 pm

    Why is Carra a pundit, I cant understand what he is saying.
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    Post by Brian 2468 Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:01 pm

    christmasborocooper wrote:Sherwood out

    I don't like any of their football been played for a few years now. Theses coaches besides trying to split the Atom really *uck up players in their interim. Now a Know why great football countries like Argentina cannot win more world cups. Pochettino tactics....pirat
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    Post by debaser Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:10 pm

    looks like Spurs gonna be let off the hook by a farcically soft red card again
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    Post by debaser Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:20 pm

    This is almost a complete replica of the Villa-Spurs game. Spurs are disgustingly lucky.
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    Post by Brian 2468 Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:30 pm

    True. Southampton are or were a totally different club set up for Pochettino compared to Spurs he will need lots of luck.
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    Post by Puro Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:00 pm

    Tina Fey! I've got to buy a few pints to that Irish guy now. lol!

    Spurs totally bossed the game even when it was XI on XI. The Mick may be on to something and he's earned his beers next time I see him at the bar. Oh you bet I'm counting players in the lineups from now on. Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Murray Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:16 pm

    Puro, Spurs only won because some Uruguayan numpty got sent off.
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    Post by bluenine Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:36 pm

    Brian 2468 wrote:
    christmasborocooper wrote:Sherwood out

    I don't like any of their football been played for a few years now. Theses coaches besides trying to split the Atom really *uck up players in their interim. Now a Know why great football countries like Argentina cannot win more world cups. Pochettino tactics....pirat  

    You really cannot expect a coach to resolve a system issue at a club in 4 months. Give him 2-3 years, and perhaps a 100m of transfers, and then judge his work. IMO he is better than any coach Spurs have had in ages.
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    Post by Fey Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:45 pm

    Sickening how much luck Spurs have this season. Still, Levy will do what he does best soon. He will be gone before the snow melted.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:48 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    Brian 2468 wrote:
    christmasborocooper wrote:Sherwood out

    I don't like any of their football been played for a few years now. Theses coaches besides trying to split the Atom really *uck up players in their interim. Now a Know why great football countries like Argentina cannot win more world cups. Pochettino tactics....pirat  

    You really cannot expect a coach to resolve a system issue at a club in 4 months. Give him 2-3 years, and perhaps a 100m of transfers, and then judge his work. IMO he is better than any coach Spurs have had in ages.

    Better than AVB?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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    Post by Puro Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:16 pm

    Murray wrote:Puro, Spurs only won because some Uruguayan numpty got sent off.

    Turning point in the game no doubt, but I will count when the lineups are revealed and wager accordingly. Let's see how it goes. So far 1-0.

    Southampton generally play with 4 and Villa with 5 plus Lambert coaching. Close game that. Either 0-0 or 0-1 win to the Saints.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:51 pm

    Murray wrote:Puro, Spurs only won because some Uruguayan numpty got sent off.

    And because Eriksen is a fucking boss Ale His free kick and last minute beauty that proved decisive. Scored more this season and last than HSWHW (apparently) RVP, and he's not even a striker.

    Spurs' issues have been done ad nauseam, so the 3 points to take advantage of all the other sides misfiring currently is all that matters until Poch gets the time and personnel to make this his own team.

    Enjoying us being labelled as lucky: not a term usually associated with a club that so historically embodies near miss impossibly scripted tragedies (or hilarity for the haterz). The red card was fully deserved anyway, surprised (ie not surprised by whom) to hear it being compared as similar to Benteke's versus Villa, which was indeed harsh. Lest the numpties forget, Spurs have had two highly debatable red cards given in the last year (Naughton v Wham, Rose v Man City). Lucky my rectum.

    Hull, with their ex Spurs players and up against a team the know from popular lore to be NEVER READY AND WEAK,  were bang up for this game. A red card at 1-0, they were ready to give up playing football and battle for a point at the very least. Those arent opportunities handed on a silver platter, so being able to take advantage is commendable to Poch and his team. Last minute making it that much more satisfying. A good day's work at the office commitment and mentality wise. Still plenty of players in this team either dross or underperforming though. If they continue to do so, pick up points and finish above the other lot to top 4, wont give a shit. A rebuild in the summer eitherway is going to be required, better done from a vantage point of CL football if possible.

    We also poached Southamptons head of recruitment today. The jews are coming Ale
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    Post by Puro Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:18 pm

    Anybody knows the biggest collapse in the following season after a team finished second?

    What we are witnessing with Rodgers is historic indeed. Suárez is that good.

    Watford in '82-'83 finished 2nd then finished 11th.
    Man. Utd '87-'88 2nd and then>>>>>>>>>> 11th
    Villa '89-'90 2nd and then total collapse the ensuing season, 17th
    Villa '92-'93 again 2nd and then >>>>>>>>>>>10th
    Newcastle '96-'97 2nd and then>>>>>>>>>>>14th

    It's only around one-third of the season gone, but we haven't seen a collapse like Liverpool's in nearly two decades. In an era when big money sort of guarantees somewhat stability and continuity, what Rodgers is doing is beyond belief. He's fucked up Liverpool!

    Some will argue that Klopp and Dortmund are also collapsing in Bundesliga, but that's not the same. Klopp and Dortmund have actually won the league twice and reached a CL Final albeit with a HUGE push in the back by a Scottish ref. Dortmund have beed dogged with injuries all season, but even so are doing very well in the CL. They will finish in the top 4 in Bundesliga again.

    Rodgers' collapse is historic indeed.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:26 pm

    Puro wrote:
    Newcastle '96-'97 2nd and then>>>>>>>>>>>14th

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    Post by Brian 2468 Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:31 pm

    bluenine wrote:
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    christmasborocooper wrote:Sherwood out

    I don't like any of their football been played for a few years now. Theses coaches besides trying to split the Atom really *uck up players in their interim. Now a Know why great football countries like Argentina cannot win more world cups. Pochettino tactics....pirat  

    You really cannot expect a coach to resolve a system issue at a club in 4 months. Give him 2-3 years, and perhaps a 100m of transfers, and then judge his work. IMO he is better than any coach Spurs have had in ages.

    Blue>> all true stuff in the present scheme of things. I have the patience to wait round for years Very Happy

    What really sucks is the reinvention of the wheel over and over and over and over again Yikes makes me dizzy.

    These players have spent their whole life learning to play the game they already have the tools to do the bloody job.

    Football is at its most entertaining when it is played at the spontaneous grassroots level, then allowed to grow.

    Let the players forge the game style.  

    All these so called Master Coaches for the most part kill this quality in players and produce a sterile form of footy that oftenly is less fruitful.

    A Manager Or Coach is just that. In real life do you expect to be told by your Boss/manager how to do your job day in and day out.affraid

    If a Coach builds a side that first and fore-mostly plays for his team mates then he has single handedly done the best thing.

    Spurs are a team in a pressure cooker, he will kick out the weak players and bring in ones that will do this beckon call later.
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    Post by Brian 2468 Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:39 pm

    christmasborocooper wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    Brian 2468 wrote:
    christmasborocooper wrote:Sherwood out

    I don't like any of their football been played for a few years now. Theses coaches besides trying to split the Atom really *uck up players in their interim. Now a Know why great football countries like Argentina cannot win more world cups. Pochettino tactics....pirat  

    You really cannot expect a coach to resolve a system issue at a club in 4 months. Give him 2-3 years, and perhaps a 100m of transfers, and then judge his work. IMO he is better than any coach Spurs have had in ages.

    Better than AVB?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    To me they are the same kind of manager.....I hope Pochettino comes though, just always looking for something outside the box to create some glorious new team that does not always require mega $$$ super players and super coaches.
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    Post by Puro Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:00 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Puro wrote:
    Newcastle '96-'97 2nd and then>>>>>>>>>>>14th

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    Right. And if tiebreakers were like in other leagues, Newcastle would've finished in 16th place - from 2nd in '96-'97 to 16th in '97-'98. Rodgers may pose a threat to that ominous record.
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    Post by Puro Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:11 pm

    OH FFS! I just tried to listen to Liverpool fans moan and bitch about their luck with Rodgers on TalkSport but rights' restrictions only available to UK listeners.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:19 am

    Can't get round that with a proxy or something? Not that I know any that work.. There's usually a way though.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:17 am

    The argument that foreigners introduced diving to the English game is all too familiar. So are the sentiments that they are the worst offenders. Yet there is a growing body of evidence to suggest the locals have not merely copied arrivals to these shores but are more culpable than additions from overseas for some of the play-acting and illicit attempts to win penalties and free-kicks or to get opponents dismissed. Take Saturday’s events at Goodison Park. Ross Barkley, a footballer with the speed and skill to beat the lumbering Kevin Nolan, nevertheless dived when near West Ham’s one-paced captain. Not that the Hammers could take the moral high ground. Another young Englishman, James Tomkins, was pushed (and not particularly hard, either) in the chest by Kevin Mirallas and collapsed to the ground, holding his right eye. If nothing else, it suggested the centre-back is a medical marvel. Yet how long before imports start complaining that the British are responsible for the epidemic of histrionics in the Premier League? Because they may be entitled to. - Richard Jolly

    Picked that from the Guardian. Good to see recognition in the media of something we have been saying for years...
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:52 am

    Yeah that is a change. As we know, it's been developing for ages. Not surprisingly, the culture of football seems to be encourage diving because you'll be left behind if you don't do it. That's why they change the name to simulation.. That's why years and years go by with people putting forward to concept of punishing people after a match if a video proves the person was diving but nothing ever comes of it.... The holding the face when you get pushed in the chest stuff is the absolute dirt worst though.
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    Post by Fey Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:07 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2847043/Graziano-Pelle-m-better-looking-Cristiano-Ronaldo-George-Clooney-play-film.html

    So true!!
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    Post by Puro Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:14 pm

    To Tina Fey's credit, he was always right about Pelle being a great striker. I don't see that guy at Southampton beyond this season. The EPL is taylor-made for him.
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    Post by Fey Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:20 pm

    Well, he doesnt have the pace to be genuine EPL player, but considering Southampton are so feckin dominant against their opponents so far, he can show his skills.

    But their season is gonna start now, never underestimate the power of fixtures.They are playing all the big guns now.
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    Post by Xavier Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:42 pm

    Pelle and his gf are definitely the hottest couple I've seen in a while
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    Post by Fey Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:20 pm

    They are, and I reckon he could have pulled her even if he wasnt a footballer. HHH is indeed way hotter then CR7, who keeps having these female features and that cheap favela rentboy style. Mind you perhaps he will come better with age cause HHH used to be a bit of rentboy as well.

    These days he could play in a Nespresso what else commercial!
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:34 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    The argument that foreigners introduced diving to the English game is all too familiar. So are the sentiments that they are the worst offenders. Yet there is a growing body of evidence to suggest the locals have not merely copied arrivals to these shores but are more culpable than additions from overseas for some of the play-acting and illicit attempts to win penalties and free-kicks or to get opponents dismissed. Take Saturday’s events at Goodison Park. Ross Barkley, a footballer with the speed and skill to beat the lumbering Kevin Nolan, nevertheless dived when near West Ham’s one-paced captain. Not that the Hammers could take the moral high ground. Another young Englishman, James Tomkins, was pushed (and not particularly hard, either) in the chest by Kevin Mirallas and collapsed to the ground, holding his right eye. If nothing else, it suggested the centre-back is a medical marvel. Yet how long before imports start complaining that the British are responsible for the epidemic of histrionics in the Premier League? Because they may be entitled to. - Richard Jolly

    Picked that from the Guardian. Good to see recognition in the media of something we have been saying for years...  

    christmasborocooper wrote:Yeah that is a change. As we know, it's been developing for ages. Not surprisingly, the culture of football seems to be encourage diving because you'll be left behind if you don't do it. That's why they change the name to simulation.. That's why years and years go by with people putting forward to concept of punishing people after a match if a video proves the person was diving but nothing ever comes of it.... The holding the face when you get pushed in the chest stuff is the absolute dirt worst though.
    I would still say there is a clear gap in culture between England and the rest. I remember the Barcelona-Chelsea semifinal in Cl 2012. Chelsea were 10 men and would go out if they let one goal in. I was obviously supporting Chelsea but I remember clearly that they kept getting up and not wasting time when they would be well within their right to do so given that they were a man behind yet they seemed to refuse. I have never seen continental teams do anything similar or close to it and especially not in such an important game. I thought it was dumb as hell and very annoying yet they managed to hold Barca at bay without diving. Deserved massive respect for that attitude.
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    Post by debaser Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:51 pm

    Fey wrote:Well, he doesnt have the pace to be genuine EPL player, but considering Southampton are so feckin dominant against their opponents so far, he can show his skills.

    But their season is gonna start now, never underestimate the power of fixtures.They are playing all the big guns now.

    Generous assessment of Villa this season Very Happy

    actually I reckon we could get something tonight. depends if rumours are true that they are missing Tadic, Schneiderlin & Davis which is three quarters of their midfield.

    that said we could be down to 4th & 5th choice CBs if Vlaar, Senderos & Baker all missing and we got no Benteke so even less likely to score goals than usual (and the usual goal-rate is pitiful) pale

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