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    Post by Kimbo Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:28 pm

    yours truly wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    yours truly wrote:
    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:
    yours truly wrote:Agree totally Parky I'd like to see England adopt a 4-2-3-1 formation but obviously will never happen.

    ----------------Hargreaves---------Carrick-------------------


    Gerrard------------------Rooney---------------J.Cole-----------------


    -------------------------Ashton--------------------------

    What you think I really don't rate Downing. <Ale>
    OBISPO!!! another 4-2-3-1 convert!

    Totally agree LRD. 4-2-3-1 is the way forward true story!! Biggrin I also don't rate any of England's 'elite' winger's. None of them have a footballing brain. Cool
    no offence mate... but you are just blatantly copying what you have been reading for the past few months Wink

    What makes you think that COTR? I only found this board 2 weeks ago. Am i getting on your bad side?

    What are you saying "true story" for then?! Eh?! Arnaud buggered off more than 2 weeks ago. Suspect
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:28 pm

    yep, i think Ashleys the best left back in the world which is why i've put him 3rd in the rankings behind one of the best sreikers in the world and the best midfielder in the world (IMO when he's on top form)
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    Post by L r d Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:28 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:My top 10:

    1.Stevie
    2.Wayne
    3.A cole
    4.Lampard (despite the critics)
    5.Scholes
    6. J Cole
    7.Ferdinanand
    8.Carragher
    9. Parker
    10. Crouch Very Happy

    do u really think cashley is better than Joe cole?

    anyone who has carragher in the top 10 is clearly a nutter
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:29 pm

    Ca$hley's not even in my top 10.

    G.Neville's a better Right-Back than he's a Left Back.

    *runs for cover*
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:29 pm

    COTR wrote:well (assuming you are telling the truth) your opinions are remarkably similar to quite a few posters on here... maybe just a coincidence but i prefer not to believe in coincidence's too much..

    I do not have a bad side Smile.... a suspicious side is another story though.. time will tell Wink

    As the saying goes mate great minds think alike!! Wink What's with this suspiscious side?
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:29 pm

    you cant change your opinion on him bevause of 7 games this season

    last 2 seasons he's been fookin brilliant, one of the best defenders in the world, Milan were interested at one point FACT
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:30 pm

    Kimmy - lots of people took the "True Story" phrase, including myself.
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:30 pm

    that was directed at lrd
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    Post by L r d Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:32 pm

    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:you cant change your opinion on him bevause of 7 games this season

    last 2 seasons he's been fookin brilliant, one of the best defenders in the world, Milan were interested at one point FACT


    Laugh Milan interested in carragher? you are more of a nutter than i first thought. My mind hasnt changed on him, 5 better central defenders alone, nevermind the rest, how can he be top 10 Yikes
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:32 pm

    read stevies book, he says in there Milan were interested in Carra
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:32 pm

    1. John Terry
    2. Steven Gerrard
    3. Wayne Rooney
    4. Joe Cole
    5. Rio Ferdinand
    6. Frank Lampard
    7. Paul Scholes (a couple of years ago, he'd have been much higher)
    8. Scott Parker
    9. Wayne Bridge
    10. Gary Neville
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:34 pm

    i'm actually embarassed now, i've just realised i've left Terry out Doh
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:37 pm

    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:i'm actually embarassed now, i've just realised i've left Terry out Doh
    Don't be. It's for the good of the game Wink
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:37 pm

    if you're reading this John i do apolagise
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    Post by L r d Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:38 pm

    I thought it was Inter who were tentatively interested in Carragher?

    Say what you want about him, but Franco "better than you" Baresi is a fan.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:38 pm

    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:if you're reading this John i do apolagise
    Don't feel any remorse!
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:39 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:
    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:i'm actually embarassed now, i've just realised i've left Terry out Doh
    Don't be. It's for the good of the game Wink

    Please ignore this comment Luis. You don't want to get brainwashed by ATCSPA (Anti-Terry Computer Screen Protection Agency)Whistle
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:40 pm

    S4P wrote:
    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:
    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:i'm actually embarassed now, i've just realised i've left Terry out Doh
    Don't be. It's for the good of the game Wink

    Please ignore this comment Luis. You don't want to get brainwashed by ATCSPA (Anti-Terry Computer Screen Protection Agency)Whistle
    You can't even pronounce that!

    That's not a good acronym. Even TEMPA is more acceptable. ok
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:43 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:
    S4P wrote:
    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:
    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:i'm actually embarassed now, i've just realised i've left Terry out Doh
    Don't be. It's for the good of the game Wink

    Please ignore this comment Luis. You don't want to get brainwashed by ATCSPA (Anti-Terry Computer Screen Protection Agency)Whistle
    You can't even pronounce that!

    That's not a good acronym. Even TEMPA is more acceptable. ok

    I know, I was getting desperate Sheep

    It's a shame Gallas hasn't got TEMPA anymore. Notice how the defence has improved again with a defence who genuinley want to try hard for the team Ale Wink
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:52 pm

    All trying so hard - they all managed to miss Agbonlahor ok

    Meanwhile wiothout TEMPA, Willy G. has managed to be concede the same amount, so it's inconclusive for now.

    We'll see. Whistle

    But I'll be damned if I'm proved wrong.
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    Post by S4P Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:55 pm

    2 of our conceded goals were before we sold Gallas I believe? (at a time when he was just as bad as Mourinho in causing chaos at the club)
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:04 pm

    Wayne Rooney or Steven Gerrard, then followed by Paul Scholes .. then Frank Lampard.
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    Post by Saintsar Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:11 pm

    1) Gerrard - best all-round ability, most valuable player
    2) Scholes - most gifted Englishman of his generation, still a world class playmaker
    3) Joe Cole - emerged last season ahead of Frank Lampard in Chelsea's team in terms of importance, particularly when Frank went a couple of months without scoring
    4) Rio Ferdinand - most talented defender by some distance
    5) John Terry - despite his dogging, a remarkably consistent player and excellent captain
    6) Wayne Rooney - when he's good, he's very, very good
    7) Michael Carrick - wonderful passer, exceptional vision, looks lazy because of the ease with which he finds space but a very competent and valuable player
    Cool Frank Lampard - he scores goals. Doesn't do much else.
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    Post by COTR Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:13 pm

    2) Scholes - most gifted Englishman of his generation, still a world class playmaker

    this season will tell... but he has been anything but world class for the past three seasons... still living off his reputation for me.. if he proves me wrong this year ill be only to happy to hold my hands up
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:15 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:1) Gerrard - best all-round ability, most valuable player
    2) Scholes - most gifted Englishman of his generation, still a world class playmaker
    3) Joe Cole - emerged last season ahead of Frank Lampard in Chelsea's team in terms of importance, particularly when Frank went a couple of months without scoring
    4) Rio Ferdinand - most talented defender by some distance
    5) John Terry - despite his dogging, a remarkably consistent player and excellent captain
    6) Wayne Rooney - when he's good, he's very, very good
    7) Michael Carrick - wonderful passer, exceptional vision, looks lazy because of the ease with which he finds space but a very competent and valuable player
    Cool Frank Lampard - he scores goals. Doesn't do much else.

    Who's your favourite english player then saints?
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    Post by L r d Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:15 pm

    A big part of his game was scoring goals, i would like to know how many he has over the last 2 years
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    Post by Saintsar Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:38 pm

    l r d wrote:A big part of his game was scoring goals, i would like to know how many he has over the last 2 years

    According to yahoo, which only has the league numbers, he got 9 in 33 two seasons back and 2 in 19 last year. 11 goals in 52 games isn't great, but given he's been playing with a somewhat inept Fletcher, a chronically ageing Keane and the likes of Djemba Djemaba and Liam Miller in that time, he's not done too badly.

    Just for comparison, though not a fair one obviously, Fabregas has got 3 in 35 and 2 in 33 in the last two league seasons.

    COTR wrote:2) Scholes - most gifted Englishman of his generation, still a world class playmaker

    this season will tell... but he has been anything but world class for the past three seasons... still living off his reputation for me.. if he proves me wrong this year ill be only to happy to hold my hands up

    Four seasons ago he was United's best player, as he was in the season they finished third to the unbeaten Arsenal and Mr Abramovich's Chelsea, when he was instrumental in Man U winning the FA cup. Last two seasons he's been a bit on and off, but look at who he's had to play with in that time, and last season he was injured for half of it. A huge part of Ronaldo's great form so far this season is because he and Scholes have finally worked out how to play together - ask LRD, who is a Man U fanatic. I remember discussing this with him on the old 606, the good 606, how Scholes and Ronaldo didn't seem to work well together very often. So far this season they've been running the show for Man U.


    My favourite English player? Probably Rio Ferdinand, for the Jaffa Cake incident, the missed drugs test and the awful, awful hip hop.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:00 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:Ca$hley's not even in my top 10.

    G.Neville's a better Right-Back than he's a Left Back.

    *runs for cover*

    Stands in front to protect you. ok
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:01 pm

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