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    Post by anglophileHedgehog Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:59 pm

    Oh to have missed the Hannover-Bremen match... Such a shame I couldn't watch or follow it. But such is life...

    Congrats to the resident Werder contingent. Thanks for Fahrenhorst, eh? ;-)

    And look at that--Wolfsburg and Hertha finished with a goalless draw. Imagine that... affraid Wink
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    Post by chrissicross Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:02 pm

    anglophileHedgehog wrote:Oh to have missed the Hannover-Bremen match... Such a shame I couldn't watch or follow it. But such is life...

    Congrats to the resident Werder contingent. Thanks for Fahrenhorst, eh? ;-)

    And look at that--Wolfsburg and Hertha finished with a goalless draw. Imagine that... affraid Wink
    A pity you missed the match, Wiebke...great entertainment. Hannover was really pretty good...don't miss the highlights on NDR3 or DSF tonight... Very Happy
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    Post by anglophileHedgehog Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:06 pm

    chrissicross wrote:
    A pity you missed the match, Wiebke...great entertainment. Hannover was really pretty good...don't miss the highlights on NDR3 or DSF tonight... Very Happy
    I won't! Still DSF-less, though, so Sportclub it is.

    How are things with you, btw, Chrissi?
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    Post by chrissicross Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:15 pm

    anglophileHedgehog wrote:
    chrissicross wrote:
    A pity you missed the match, Wiebke...great entertainment. Hannover was really pretty good...don't miss the highlights on NDR3 or DSF tonight... Very Happy
    I won't! Still DSF-less, though, so Sportclub it is.

    How are things with you, btw, Chrissi?
    Oh thanks, everything is fine, Wiebke. I have term break (=Semesterferien?) at the moment... Very Happy And you? Have you finally decided to study pharmacy?
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    Post by anglophileHedgehog Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:20 pm

    Yeah--got the paperwork on Friday... Though the almighty ZVS has decided to send me to Halle/Saale of all places. Oh well... A chance to explore the Wild East. Wink

    Hope you're having fun, then. Smile
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    Post by Luso Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:26 pm

    So it's safe to say you guys are well satisfied with Diego's performance in this first game.

    He had great close ball control and a good shot. Co just didn't like him. He always looks dangerous running forward with the ball.

    I really hope Almeida can do just as well and secure a perminent deal. How much are they asking for him, and would you be able to pay?
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:27 pm

    HSV can take comfort in Hertha Berlin's even worse attack. Seriously, if you think that HSV need a good striker, Berlin needs new strikers and a new offensive midfield. And a new coach.


    Hey Wiebke, Hannover was actually pretty good today, they almost beat us. But after Almeida's equaliser, all hell broke loose, and Werder simply overrun them. Despite my ironic remark earlier on, I still believe that Fahrenhorst will help Hannover this season.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:38 pm

    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:So it's safe to say you guys are well satisfied with Diego's performance in this first game.

    He had great close ball control and a good shot. Co just didn't like him. He always looks dangerous running forward with the ball.

    I really hope Almeida can do just as well and secure a perminent deal. How much are they asking for him, and would you be able to pay?

    I think it's safe to say that Diego is already a star of the team.

    If Almeida does well for us this season, and I believe that he will (-> he did exactly what we expected from him today - score an important goal against a defensive side that was leading), I can see Allofs paying Porto a good sum for him, especially because he is so young still, and has a lot of potential. Exactly the kind of player we usually buy at Werder.
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    Post by anglophileHedgehog Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:43 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:HSV can take comfort in Hertha Berlin's even worse attack. Seriously, if you think that HSV need a good striker, Berlin needs new strikers and a new offensive midfield. And a new coach.


    Hey Wiebke, Hannover was actually pretty good today, they almost beat us. But after Almeida's equaliser, all hell broke loose, and Werder simply overrun them. Despite my ironic remark earlier on, I still believe that Fahrenhorst will help Hannover this season.
    If Götz insists on playing a stupid 4-5-1 system, he'll be out before Christmas.

    Oh good--I was worried it had been another slaughtering... And concerning Fahrenhorst, well... He's only been with the team for what, a week? So yeah, I share that belief. :-)
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    Post by chrissicross Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am

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    Bremen bleibt sich treu
    http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/archiv/14.08.2006/2713948.asp

    Die große Show des kleinen Diego
    http://www.sportbild.de/nncs/fussball/2006/08/14/4105500000.html

    Diego Werderdona – neuer Super-Star! (typisch Bild Wink)
    http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/bundesliga/aktuell/2006/08/14/spielbericht-hannover-werder/spielbericht-hannover-werder.html

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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:51 am

    Diego 2 assists and one goal; is not that bad!
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    Post by chrissicross Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:46 am

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    Bremen Bounce Back To Batter Hanover

    What a start! Werder Bremen picked up their first three points of the season with a 4:2 derby win against north German rival Hanover 96. The visitors took the lead thanks to impressive new signing Diego after 19 minutes butnhad his goal cancelled out by Stajner in the 41st. Tim Borowski had a penalty saved by Robert Enke following a foul on Miroslav Klose. In the second half the home side tok the lead through Hashemian (66') but then Werder really turned on the style. Substitute Hugo Almeida pulled the sides back level at 2:2 in the 79th minute. Then in a dramatic closing phase Miroslav Klose pounced to make it 3:2 for Werder (85') and Daniel Jensen completed the turn around with a fourth for the Green-Whites (90').

    Active begin for both sides

    The 37th clash between the two north German clubs started actively with both sides showing from the outset that they both had plans of taking all three points. Werder marked up the first opening of the game after six minutes when Pierre Womé and Tim Borowski combined. The German internationals cross-come-shot became a threat to the Hanover goal but Robert Enke managed to turn the ball over the crossbar. From a Womé corner Vahid Hashemian headed the ball against his his own post. With nine minutes played the home side had their first chance when Szabolcs Huszti fed Hashemian who rounded Tim Wiese but placed his shot wide of the post.

    Deserved lead, equaliser deserved

    In the 19th minute Werder took a deserved lead. Following a pass from the midfield Klasnic combined with Klose who couldn't get his shot under control and the ball spun away behind him straight to the feet of new signing Diego who held his nerve and shovedd the ball home to make it 0:1. The home side accepted the wake up call and almost drew level with a free-kick fromt the corner flag eight minutes later but Tim Wiese was on hand to clear the danger. Shortly after Chavadar Yankov found himself with only Wiese to beat but again the keeper proved strong. In the 40th minute the improved Hanover side got their just rewards. Michael Tarnat played Jiri Stajner through who beat Wiese to give '96' a deserved equaliser - 1:1.

    Hanover with the better re-start, Bremen bounce back

    Havoner made the better start to the second half and after Huszti missed a clear chance in the 52nd minute Hashemian took his oportunity and gave his side the lead, beating the Werder keeper from around the penalty area (67'). Bremen turned up the tempo and pressure on the '96' goal and could have equalised ten minutes after the Hanover lead through Miroslav Klose who headed a Daniel Jensen cross against the crossbar. Two minutes later the Werder strikers had more luck though and substitute Hugo Almeida climbed to meet a cross from Fritz which had sailed over the keeper to make it 2:2 and again the sides were level.

    Werder turn the screws

    With 81 minutes on the clock, Diego had the chance to give his side the lead yet again. The 21 year old firstly stole the ball from Steven Cherundolo before dancing around Frank Fahrenhorst and Enke but then lost control of the ball which rolled harmlessly out of play. Almeida had the chance to get his name on the score sheet again but his header from a Womé cross missed the target. Bremen were in control and a counter attack with Hunt, Klose and Diego frinished with the 2006 World Cup 'Golden Boot' winner giving his side the lead (85'). Hanover threw everything into attack, leaving Werder even more space. Diego played a perfect pass to Daniel Jensen who lobbed Enke to make the final score 2:4 in Werder Bremen's favour.

    http://www.werder-online.de/english/news/meldung.php?id=626
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    Post by chrissicross Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:56 pm

    Neuer Chef, alte Sparsamkeit Smile
    http://www.welt.de/data/2006/08/15/997803.html

    Opfer des Offensivfußballs
    http://www.welt.de/data/2006/08/15/997804.html

    Hopefully H96 will try to continue to play like they did against Werder yesterday, very entertaining.
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    Post by chrissicross Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:29 pm

    Augenweide Diego

    Bremen gewinnt in Hannover mit 4:2 und freut sich,
    einen Nachfolger für Johan Micoud gefunden zu haben

    HANNOVER taz Neues Spiel, neues Glück. Nicht bei Hannover 96. Das Stadion heißt immer noch nach der Firma des sinistren Finanzdienstleisters Maschmeyer, der neue Präsident sieht wieder aus wie Nick Knatterton, also wie der Vorgänger des alten. Und auch Peter Neururers Frühform hält mühelos das Niveau der vergangenen Saison. Nach Spielende sah man ihn wie einen begossenen Pudel vor die Pressekonferenz treten und seiner "tiefen Enttäuschung" Ausdruck geben. Obwohl er in der Vorbereitung einen revolutionären Mentalitätswechsel implantiert hat - neuerdings "läuft 96 auf, um zu gewinnen" -, gab es gegen Bremen die übliche Heimklatsche. Diesmal mit 2:4.

    Anders lautenden Gerüchten zum Trotz, die vor allem der sehbehinderte Lokalsender NDR III in den Äther schickte, war der Werder-Sieg am Ende hochverdient. Immerhin hatten die 49.000 Zuschauer ein interessantes Spiel gesehen. Das lag bis zur 72. Minute zum Gutteil an den Roten, die den anfangs etwas bräsigen Werderanern mit Courage entgegentraten und tatsächlich Spielkultur aufblitzen ließen. Mit dem Holländer Bruggink hat das Mittelfeld endlich eine tragende defensive Säule, neben der Techniker wie Yankov und der dribbel- und zweikampfstarke ungarische Neuzugang Huszti ihre Möglichkeiten entfalten können. Davon profitierte vor allem Jiri Stajner. Das gewöhnlich zwischen Genie und Wahnsinn taumelnde böhmische Knödelchen präsentierte sich nicht nur gertenschlank, sondern fabrizierte einen genialischen Steilpass nach dem anderen. Den ersten in Minute 9 vergab Huszti, den zweiten kurz nach Wiederanpfiff drosch Hashemian aus zehn Meter Entfernung freistehend über die Latte. Da stand es schon 1:1. Die Werder-Führung hatte Micoud-Ersatz Diego besorgt, der den Franzosen zu keiner Minute vermissen ließ. Im Gegenteil. Mit laufender Spieldauer entwickelte er sich zum Dreh- und Angelpunkt des Bremer Spiels.

    Dem kleinen Argentinier (Suspect Laughing) zuzusehen, mit welcher Souveränität er den Ball aus jeder Lage annahm, verteilte und wenn es passte, Hannovers Verteidigern listig vom Fuß stahl, war eine Augenweide. Als ausgerechnet der hüftsteife Tarnat versuchte, den Rastelli im eigenen Strafraum vorzuführen, sagte Diego danke und setzte das Leder in der 19. Minute flach und unhaltbar für Enke ins linke Toreck. Doch der Bundesliga-Veteran rächte sich 20 Minuten später mit einem feine Pässchen auf Stajner, der das Leder mit dem Innenrist an Wiese vorbei zum Ausgleich spitzelte.

    Im Gegenzug stolperte der bis dato von Mertesacker-Tauschobjekt Fahrenhorst gut bewachte Klose professionell über Enke, und Schiri Franz Xaver Wack packte die Gelegenheit beim Schopf, seine Zunft gleich zum Saisonauftakt wieder in Verruf zu bringen. Nachdem er schon einige merkwürdige Freistoßentscheidungen zugunsten der Bremer getroffen hatte, pfiff er nun Elfmeter. Doch Enke parierte Borowskis Geschoss. Werder wirkte selbst nach der Pause noch etwas konsterniert und Trainer Schaaf musste mit ansehen, wie "ein sehr starkes Hannover" auf die Führung drängte. Sie kam, als Hashemian endlich einen von Stajners Traumpässen nutzte. Warum es für 96 dennoch nicht zum Sieg langte, ist ein sattsam bekanntes Drama in Hannover. Tarnat war zu langsam für Fritz, dessen Flanke Almeida einnickte (79.), Zuraw war zu langsam für Klose, der die Kugel an der Strafraumgrenze seelenruhig stoppen und mit Schmackes in den Winkel hauen konnte (85.). Und der völlig indisponierte Brdaric, den Neururer - wer weiß, warum - für Mittelfeldsäule Bruggink eingewechselt hatte, sah staunend zu, wie Diego mit einer finalen Glanztat Jensen das 4:2 auflegte (91.).

    Per Mertesacker, der vor der Partie von Hannovers Präsidenten Martin Kind mit einer goldenen Uhr und vom Publikum mit ein paar Pfiffen in Richtung Bremen verabschiedet wurde, gab anschließend zu Protokoll, er sei froh, "dass der Wechsel jetzt endlich vollzogen ist". Man kann den Mann verstehen.

    MICHAEL QUASTHOFF

    taz vom 15.8.2006, S. 15, 134 Z. (TAZ-Bericht), MICHAEL QUASTHOFF

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    Post by blutgraetsche Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:47 pm

    Kinda funny text, although that 'Argentinier' part is inexcusable. Imagine if our Brazilian friends would actually read this text. They'd declare war on us!
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:33 pm

    Diego hates argentinians. Every time that he played for Santos or Brazil and the referee was Argentinian, he already had an excuse if his side had lost : "It´s hard to play against an argentinian referee!" Smile


    Great signing for Bremen. At 19 Diego was called up regularly for the brazilian squad. Diego is a great player. I´m sure he will be a very important player for Bremen and one of the best (if not the best) player of Bundesliga. At 16 the kid made his debut in the first division. He is very efficient, fast, has great technique and passing. Borowski shouldn´t take penalties anymore. Diego is one of the best penalty takers in the world. True story!


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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:47 pm

    chrissicross wrote:
    Mit dem Holländer Bruggink hat das Mittelfeld endlich eine tragende defensive Säule

    Shocked

    I was always lead to believe he was a striker....
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:38 pm

    @Sheva
    I always believed that Diego was a great signing, I believed that he could replace Micoud in his own way, even surpass him in the long run because he is so young still. But still it is a surprise to see him shine so early, I expected him to need some time to integrate, get used to the Bundesliga etc.
    The best aspect, besides his vision, his technique, his character etc., is that he doesn't seem to have a problem with the roughness of the Bundesliga. He definitely is no diver, the opposition keeps fouling him and he keeps running most of the time. He is a 'robust' player as well, I don't think that he will be injured often.

    He definitely is already a star of the team, and the press keeps raving about him just after one match. But our staff tries to dampen the hype, because they know that it often doesn't help young players.


    @Axel
    Bruggink had a good match in the midfield for Hannover, actually he and that Hungarian player truly made the difference for them this season. Hannover played differently, you can say that they played attractive attacking football, and they almost beat us this way. Guess it was a surprise to everyone.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:43 pm

    You just can't escape Murphy's Law it seems. Naldo is injured, he won't be able to play for us in the next two weeks. Our first XI defence, Naldo and Mertesacker, are both injured now.

    Now the decision to let Fahrenhorst move really is a problem for us. Baumann will most probably have to play in the central defence, and no matter who he plays with, I expect our defence to be even more shaky next week.

    Klaus Allofs and Thomas Schaaf will probably have to pay for that now, because Leverkusen is in great form, their attack is one of the strongest in the Bundesliga. I wouldn't be surprised if we lose the match against them tbh.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:11 pm

    Diego also has a big advantage: he is just 21, but has a lot of experiece. Brazilian league champion at 17, Copa Libertadores finalist at 18, Copa America champion at 19. He has everything to be a real sucess in Bundesliga.

    I didn´t watch the match, only the highlights, but like the comentator said I think that Bremen has the best midfield of Germany. Haumann, Frings, Borowski and Diego. How germans rate Bremen´s chances? Do they still think that Bayern are the top favourities?
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:25 pm

    A lot of people think us to be top favourites now, even some Bayern fans. Most believe that the Championship will be decided between us and Bayern, and almost everyone thinks (hopes) that it will be close and exciting.

    Objectively speaking, I believe that we have the best midfield and best attack of the league.
    We have a very good chance to win the Championship this year, and do well in the Champions League. I just hope that Mertesacker and Naldo are fit soon, we simply need them to have the edge. I expect them to form a great partnership in the central defence, our only 'weakness' for now.

    ------------------------------------

    Btw. sheva, what most people over here don't understand is why players like Juan or Roque Junior are still prefered for the Selecao. There are much better Brazilian defenders in the Bundesliga even, e.g. Bordon, who is one of the best defenders of the league. Or players like Dede never get a real chance, although most believe them to be better than Cicinho, at least defensively. Is it because Bordon and Dede didn't have their breakthrough in the Brazilian league?

    Dunga knows the Bundesliga well, for the sake of the Selecao, I'd like him to consider the other options as well. We might not have the big Brazilian stars, the big names, in our league, but we definitely have some excellent players who would play their heart out for Brazil.
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    Post by chrissicross Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:30 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Btw. sheva, what most people over here don't understand is why players like Juan or Roque Junior are still prefered for the Selecao. There are much better Brazilian defenders in the Bundesliga even, e.g. Bordon
    ...and Naldo of course... Cool
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:33 pm

    Didn't wanted to sound biased, but you are right chrissi. Smile
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    Post by chrissicross Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:36 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:You just can't escape Murphy's Law it seems. Naldo is injured, he won't be able to play for us in the next two weeks. Our first XI defence, Naldo and Mertesacker, are both injured now.

    Crying or Very sad Damn, how many goals do we have to score now then to win against Leverkusen...at least four methinks...

    A pity H96 were so keen on Fahrenhorst...four central defenders would have been much better than only three.
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    Post by chrissicross Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:48 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Didn't wanted to sound biased, but you are right chrissi. Smile
    Just imagine the increase in transfer value if Diego and Naldo will be called up for the Seleção... Biggrin

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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:51 pm

    Forget the money, I want both to play for us.

    Seriously, if we continue to qualify for the Champions League in the next few years, we will be attractive for great young talent, while we are able to keep our star players, because we can afford them. I want us to win a European title, preferably Champions League, in the next 5-10 years, I'm serious. I fully believe that Thomas Schaaf and Klaus Allofs are able to pull it off.

    Rehagel managed to do it in 1992, Thomas Schaaf will definitely be able to do it.
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    Post by chrissicross Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:12 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Forget the money, I want both to play for us.

    Seriously, if we continue to qualify for the Champions League in the next few years, we will be attractive for great young talent, while we are able to keep our star players, because we can afford them. I want us to win a European title, preferably Champions League, in the next 5-10 years, I'm serious. I fully believe that Thomas Schaaf and Klaus Allofs are able to pull it off.

    Rehagel managed to do it in 1992, Thomas Schaaf will definitely be able to do it.
    Let's be realistic, blut. Diego won't stay in Bremen forever...one or two good seasons for Bremen and a few good performances for the Seleção and he will be gone again...that's life. And I'm sure Klaus Allofs will find a new Diego/Micoud for us somewhere... Smile
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    Post by chrissicross Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:34 pm

    Verdacht auf Schienbeinbruch - Verletzungsschock für Ismael
    http://www.fcbayern.t-com.de/de/aktuell/news/2006/08825.php?fcb_sid=ec626c174b62ca8ad7445d8672e44c04
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:44 pm

    chrissicross wrote:
    Let's be realistic, blut. Diego won't stay in Bremen forever...one or two good seasons for Bremen and a few good performances for the Seleção and he will be gone again...that's life. And I'm sure Klaus Allofs will find a new Diego/Micoud for us somewhere... Smile

    Of course chrissi. What I'm trying to say is that if we continue like this, in a few years time players like Diego will think twice to leave, because they won't have good reason to. If we continue like this, we'll become a true European top team in not too distant future.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:46 pm

    chrissicross wrote:Verdacht auf Schienbeinbruch - Verletzungsschock für Ismael
    http://www.fcbayern.t-com.de/de/aktuell/news/2006/08825.php?fcb_sid=ec626c174b62ca8ad7445d8672e44c04

    I watched it on DSF right now, really looked awful. Everyone seemed to be shocked. Really feel sorry for him, don't think that he will be able to play for Bayern in the first half of the season.

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