Mogelijk onderzoek naar Lodewijks en Bonthuis
Door: Mikos Gouka
ROTTERDAM - Arbiter Ben Haverkort heeft op het wedstrijdformulier van het duel af gelopen zondag tussen Sparta en Feyenoord melding gemaakt van de woordenwisseling die hij had met algemeen directeur Peter Bonthuis. Volgens scheidsrechterscoördinator Jaap Uilenberg moet de afdeling tuchtzaken op korte termijn beslissen of er een zaak wordt aangespannen tegen Bonthuis. De algemeen directeur van Sparta had gisteren telefonisch contact met Uilenberg. ,,Peter vroeg me wat hij moest doen,’’ zegt Uilenberg. ,,Ik heb hem verteld dat Haverkort op het wedstrijdformulier melding heeft gemaakt van de woordenwisseling.’’
Volgens Uilenberg heeft de arbiter niets op het wedstrijdformulier gezet van de gebeurtenissen in de rust van het duel. Bonthuis zegt dat Feyenoords reservekeeper Patrick Lodewijks verbaal de confrontatie gezocht met Haverkort. Trainer Wiljan Vloet bracht het voorval na afloop op de persconferentie ter sprake. ,,Het incident in de rust valt niet onder mijn verantwoordelijkheid,'' zegt Uilenberg. ,,Maar de mogelijkheid bestaat dat de tuchtcommissie een onderzoek zal instellen.’’
Wiljan Vloet wil niet vertellen wat er precies in de rust is voorgevallen tussen Lodewijks en Haverkort. ,,Er waren vier officials bij en niemand greep in,’’ zegt Vloet. ,,Daarom zeg ik er niets over. Als de arbiter en zijn assistenten échte kerels zijn, maken ze er melding van. Ik veroordeel de speler die Haverkort heeft geprobeerd te beïnvloeden niet, want ik kan me het uit zijn oogpunt nog voorstellen ook.’’
Het feit dat Haverkort na afloop boos de bestuurskamer verliet na de ruzie met Bonthuis, doet Vloet niets. ,,Ik weet niet wat Peter heeft gezegd, maar het kan nooit erger geweest zijn dan wat er in de pauze allemaal tegen hem is gezegd. En dat duurde echt een paar minuten en daar maakt hij géén melding van.’’
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The Saga continues:
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Lol,looks like someone is bitter hey....Bonthuis should be more concerned with some of the players he bought..
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Fey wrote:Lol,looks like someone is bitter hey....Bonthuis should be more concerned with some of the players he bought..
Don't you think he has a point though?
What was wrong with our buys? Medunjanin - class, Yannis - better than Charisteas, deRoover - good buy so far, vDijk - disappointed so far
What are you talking about?
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I mean that he should stop whining about it. Sometimes your lucky, the other time you lose. Im sure Sparta will win this year, a game undeservedly as well..
Oh and Charisteas>>>Yannis
Oh and Charisteas>>>Yannis
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Fey wrote:
Oh and Charisteas>>>Yannis
Based on what?
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SpartaR wrote:Fey wrote:
Oh and Charisteas>>>Yannis
Based on what?
Facts. I mean he made his country European Champion
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Fey wrote:SpartaR wrote:Fey wrote:
Oh and Charisteas>>>Yannis
Based on what?
Facts. I mean he made his country European Champion
Yannis has a better goal a game ratio than Charisteas has.
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So Ajax is through after that result.
Anyone know what pot they'll be in for the group stage draw?
How far can we expect this Ajax team to go?
Anyone know what pot they'll be in for the group stage draw?
How far can we expect this Ajax team to go?
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Friday 9th Sept 2006
FT: RKC 1 (Janssen,86') :0 ADO Den Haag
FT: RKC 1 (Janssen,86') :0 ADO Den Haag
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Saw some pics of AZ's new stadium, not bad. It's a massive improvement over that things Sporting had to play in during the Uefa Cup.
Nice ground they have now
Not sure how big they are in Holland, but they seem to be doing good work in Alkmar.
Nice ground they have now
Not sure how big they are in Holland, but they seem to be doing good work in Alkmar.
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@ Luso 'Sporting'
They are in the top 4, playing amazing football at the moment .. some say the have the 'new' Cocu...
They are in the top 4, playing amazing football at the moment .. some say the have the 'new' Cocu...
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I know they've been playing well, but I was thinking in terms of fan support.
How big are they in that sense?
Will they be able to keep things together for much longer?
How big are they in that sense?
Will they be able to keep things together for much longer?
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@ Luso
Financially they are not a big club, and they don't have a huge fan base (compared to Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord)..
Financially they are not a big club, and they don't have a huge fan base (compared to Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord)..
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Seems like they've grown quite a bit though. Do you think they'll be able to keep this top 4 status from now on?
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Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Seems like they've grown quite a bit though. Do you think they'll be able to keep this top 4 status from now on?
Before the season began - AZ sold some 'key' players from last season (i.e. Landzaat and Mathijsen) i started to have second thoughts of them doing well ... they proved me wrong (so far)
However 'new' crop of players have emerged and are proving themselves - i.e. Stijn Schaars(future Dutch talent, watch out for him) and Simon Cziommer -- they also have quality players in Shota Arveladze, Tim de Cler, Danny Koevermans and Demy de Zeeuw.
I can see them being a top 4 Dutch side in the next few years ...
It be good if we had AZ fans on these boards..
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Yea, it just seems like an interesting club to me...althouh I'll admit I don't really like them much because of that Uefa semi-final.
But it is interesting to see that a club outside the big 3 from Holland is doing well, playing in Europe, and with a good new stadium.
Seems like a well run club.
But it is interesting to see that a club outside the big 3 from Holland is doing well, playing in Europe, and with a good new stadium.
Seems like a well run club.
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Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Yea, it just seems like an interesting club to me...althouh I'll admit I don't really like them much because of that Uefa semi-final.
But it is interesting to see that a club outside the big 3 from Holland is doing well, playing in Europe, and with a good new stadium.
Seems like a well run club.
They are .. i think they were set up because one of their owners/founder hated Ajax .. I'm not totally sure...
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I know their owners hate Ajax now, but I doubt AZ (Alkmaar-Zaandam) was founded because of that reason.
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Distinguished Dutchman wrote:I know their owners hate Ajax now, but I doubt AZ (Alkmaar-Zaandam) was founded because of that reason.
I must have misread something..
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AZ Alkmaar is a football club from Alkmaar, the Netherlands. It was founded on May 10, 1967 as AZ '67, the result of a merger of Alkmaar '54 and FC Zaanstreek. In the Netherlands the club is known as AZ, but internationally Alkmaar is often added.
Owing to the commitment of businessmen Cees and Klaas Molenaar, AZ '67 was successful in the late seventies and early eighties. In 1981 they became Dutch champions and UEFA Cup finalists. Things went downhill after the Molenaar brothers left the club. In 1988 AZ were relegated from the Eredivisie.
The involvement of businessman Dirk Scheringa in the late nineties marked the revival of the club. AZ returned to the Eredivisie in 1998. In 2004-05 they reappeared in the UEFA Cup tournament, advancing to the semi-finals. They also finished third in the Eredivisie that season, again qualifying for the UEFA Cup, after spending most of the season in the top two spots. A remarkable achievement, since AZ is financially not a big club and it does not have a similar fanbase like their Eredivsie rivals: AZ's home ground in the 2005-06 season, the Alkmaarder Hout, had a spectator capacity of 8390.
In the summer of 2006, the club moved to a new 17,000 capacity stadium, the DSB Stadion. Due to a larger than expected demand for tickets, the new ground will probably be expanded to 30,000 in 2008 by adding a second tier.
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Imo even today we can speak of a top 3, because Feyenoord has felt out of it. But for the long term? I cant see AZ holding this succes forever. Even Scheringa cant buy enternity...
Owing to the commitment of businessmen Cees and Klaas Molenaar, AZ '67 was successful in the late seventies and early eighties. In 1981 they became Dutch champions and UEFA Cup finalists. Things went downhill after the Molenaar brothers left the club. In 1988 AZ were relegated from the Eredivisie.
The involvement of businessman Dirk Scheringa in the late nineties marked the revival of the club. AZ returned to the Eredivisie in 1998. In 2004-05 they reappeared in the UEFA Cup tournament, advancing to the semi-finals. They also finished third in the Eredivisie that season, again qualifying for the UEFA Cup, after spending most of the season in the top two spots. A remarkable achievement, since AZ is financially not a big club and it does not have a similar fanbase like their Eredivsie rivals: AZ's home ground in the 2005-06 season, the Alkmaarder Hout, had a spectator capacity of 8390.
In the summer of 2006, the club moved to a new 17,000 capacity stadium, the DSB Stadion. Due to a larger than expected demand for tickets, the new ground will probably be expanded to 30,000 in 2008 by adding a second tier.
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Imo even today we can speak of a top 3, because Feyenoord has felt out of it. But for the long term? I cant see AZ holding this succes forever. Even Scheringa cant buy enternity...
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D'oh!
That's why kids, if you got a shit memory and a fast typing hand, you're going to get yourself in trouble.
Should have doublechecked it, but it was off the cuff so whatever.
That's why kids, if you got a shit memory and a fast typing hand, you're going to get yourself in trouble.
Should have doublechecked it, but it was off the cuff so whatever.
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Tomorrow its KOEMAN VS KOEMAN...
Or P$V vs Feyenoord if you like. I hope we can snatch a draw there, but i fear the worst actually.
The most likely line-ups:
P$V: Gomes, Kromkamp, Alex, Addo, Reiziger; Culina, Méndez, Simons; Affelay, Farfan en Koné.
Feyenoord: Timmer; Tiendalli, Greene, Bahia, Drenthe; Buijs, Hofs, Lucius, De Guzman; Huysegems en Charisteas.
Or P$V vs Feyenoord if you like. I hope we can snatch a draw there, but i fear the worst actually.
The most likely line-ups:
P$V: Gomes, Kromkamp, Alex, Addo, Reiziger; Culina, Méndez, Simons; Affelay, Farfan en Koné.
Feyenoord: Timmer; Tiendalli, Greene, Bahia, Drenthe; Buijs, Hofs, Lucius, De Guzman; Huysegems en Charisteas.
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@ Fey
If Ajax cant beat PSV - so can Feyenoord......
let me show you that Wesley Sneijder goal again ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66q8wJtUhNU
If Ajax cant beat PSV - so can Feyenoord......
let me show you that Wesley Sneijder goal again ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66q8wJtUhNU
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Well our last results in Eindhoven aint that bad:
2001-2002 UEFA-Cup 15-03-2002 PSV-Feyenoord 1-1 (0-1) 5)
2001-2002 UEFA-Cup 22-03-2002 Feyenoord-PSV 1-1 (0-0) 11)
2001-2002 KPN Eredivisie 14-04-2002 PSV-Feyenoord 2-0 (1-0)
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2004-2005 Amstel-Cup 21-04-2005 Feyenoord-PSV 1-1 (1-0) 12)
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Will Kluivert make his debut tomorrow? Would be interesting to see how the crowd will react. I mean he aint popular at the supporters of both sides.
2001-2002 UEFA-Cup 15-03-2002 PSV-Feyenoord 1-1 (0-1) 5)
2001-2002 UEFA-Cup 22-03-2002 Feyenoord-PSV 1-1 (0-0) 11)
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Will Kluivert make his debut tomorrow? Would be interesting to see how the crowd will react. I mean he aint popular at the supporters of both sides.
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@ Fey
- lets hope tomorrow will be a good game.
- lets hope tomorrow will be a good game.
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Ajax team to face Roda JC
---------------- Stekelenburg
---- Heitinga, Stam, Vermaelen, Urby
------------ Gabri -------- Roger
------------------- Sneijder
------- Rosales ----------------- Babel
------------------- Huntelaar
Rosenberg on the bench!!
Bench: Gentenaar, Perez, Lindenbergh, Krohn-Dehli, Rosenberg, Ogararu, Grygera
---------------- Stekelenburg
---- Heitinga, Stam, Vermaelen, Urby
------------ Gabri -------- Roger
------------------- Sneijder
------- Rosales ----------------- Babel
------------------- Huntelaar
Rosenberg on the bench!!
Bench: Gentenaar, Perez, Lindenbergh, Krohn-Dehli, Rosenberg, Ogararu, Grygera
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1-0 Roda..
de Fauw
2-0 PSV
Alex, Farfan
de Fauw
2-0 PSV
Alex, Farfan
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2-1 PSV
Feyenoord scored: deGuzman
Feyenoord scored: deGuzman
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Ajax heading towards defeat ..
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OFF: Roger
ON: Lindenbergh
- Rosenberg still on the bench ...
ON: Lindenbergh
- Rosenberg still on the bench ...
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