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    Post by Machiavel Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:13 pm

    Fey wrote:

    Well its more like the board against Rai..and d'gorgeous sometimes..

    We Ajacied's must stick together and defend our brothers ..
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:14 pm

    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Fey wrote:
    But you are losing it by telling this poor guy Ajax is the biggest club in Holland. Sure you won more trophys, but if you talk in terms of people who supports the club!!! Feyenoord wins clearly <Ale>


    not really.

    how come you need two other eredivisie clubs in your own town to tell you that you're not even big enough to have most rotterdammers supporting you?

    Wink

    i is jokes, i apologize, you are the biggest club in holland have the most debt of all clubs in the eredivisie. Very Happy

    Haz i thought Feyenoord had wiped out their debt?
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:15 pm

    Fey wrote:

    Well its more like the board against Rai..and d'gorgeous sometimes..

    yeps!

    except from ricardojol (not biased except against the english, and most insightful!) and leo (peace be upon him)

    i guess the few dutch on this mb are taking their frustrations about our current bondscoach out on the club where he became famous. ajax.

    or

    because he only selects rubbish ajax players lol! (yeah right! that's why we are leading the rankings huh, it's because they are rubbish! looooooooool Razz)
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    Post by Fey Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:20 pm

    yours truly wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Fey wrote:
    But you are losing it by telling this poor guy Ajax is the biggest club in Holland. Sure you won more trophys, but if you talk in terms of people who supports the club!!! Feyenoord wins clearly <Ale>


    not really.

    how come you need two other eredivisie clubs in your own town to tell you that you're not even big enough to have most rotterdammers supporting you?

    Wink

    i is jokes, i apologize, you are the biggest club in holland have the most debt of all clubs in the eredivisie. Very Happy

    Haz i thought Feyenoord had wiped out their debt?

    We did. And we are still a football club, instead of a company with stockholders Razz

    Why we have 3 teams in this city??? First of all we are a real football city, i mean we deliver more football clubs then whole North-Holland Surprised

    Second, Rotterdam has the biggest region of this country. While Ajax has to get his support from 020 Almere. We are popular in this whole country.

    And lets face it alot of ajax-supporters are nothing more then desperate housewives.
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:28 pm

    that's why both clubs from noord holland are dominating the eredivisie this year riiiiiiiiiight cheers

    fey, i like you. i really do. but you can't win this.

    there's an ajax cape town in south africa

    AND

    an ajax florida team in the us of a.

    we are bigger, it's a fact.

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    Post by Fey Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:38 pm

    Well I only mentioned the quantity not the quality of the teams.

    We have a Feyenoord team in ghana. And as you know Ghana>>>>South africa Biggrin

    And why the hell do you have a team in Florida??? Think you will find the next Freddy Adu or a new Casey Keller Laughing

    It is PSV that dominates the league for years now, but does that make them the biggest club?? Hell no. When you won the league in 2002 there where 75000 people celebrating. When we won it in 1999 there where 260000 people on the Coolsingel. Shocked

    Btw its Feyenoord-Ajax soon....
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:40 pm

    not the same thing. they are only a football academy and not playing under the feyenoord name.

    but please do tell us how you have managed to finance that with all those things going on last year in terms of money Wink
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    Post by Fey Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:46 pm

    Feyenoord heeft nauwe samenwerkingsverbanden met de volgende clubs:

    Excelsior (sinds 1997)
    Fetteh Football Academy (sinds 1998)
    America Belo Horizonte
    Supersport United (sinds 2002)
    KVC Westerlo (sinds 2003)
    Feyenoord Salgado
    Grampus Eight Nagoya
    B93 Kopenhagen

    You really believe we have debts?? I still have questions about it, I mean they came with that AFTER we sold Kuyt and Kalou. I still think they made it up, so some people (Jorien van den Herik) could finally get some money out of it.
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:50 pm

    it's well documentated on the official feyenoord website fey Wink

    and while ajax cape town are an actual club and playing in the african version of the champions league, feyenoord salgado are only a footballacademy.

    (unicef are co-owners btw.)
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    Post by Fey Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:53 pm

    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:it's well documentated on the official feyenoord website fey Wink

    and while ajax cape town are an actual club and playing in the african version of the champions league, feyenoord salgado are only a footballacademy.

    (unicef are co-owners btw.)

    Nah, got it from wikipedia Wink

    Well that is just a great thing don't you think? While you lot only are in it to get a good player and sell it for huge money. We actually give those poor africans hope. We do what Unicef cant lol!
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:14 pm

    Good to see that has beens Ajax and Feyenoord are fighting over who's the biggest club of Holland, when looking over the past 20 years it's undoubtedly PSV...
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:19 pm

    Axeslammer ! wrote:Good to see that has beens Ajax and Feyenoord are fighting over who's the biggest club of Holland, when looking over the past 20 years it's undoubtedly PSV...

    lol!
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:28 pm

    over the last 20 years

    afc ajax

    intercontinental/world cup: 1
    european supercup: 1
    champion's league: 1
    european cup winner's cup: 1
    uefa cup: 1

    dutch leagues: 7
    dutch cups: 7
    dutch supercups: 6


    psv

    european cup/champions league: 1

    dutch leagues: 11
    dutch cups: 5
    dutch supercups: 7

    undoubtedly? i think not.
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:31 pm

    me and fey don't 'fight'..

    unlike some other dutch posters on here who love to label those that don't share their opinion with insults Wink
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:32 pm

    rai Mihawk wrote:
    Fey wrote:

    Well its more like the board against Rai..and d'gorgeous sometimes..

    We Ajacied's must stick together and defend our brothers ..

    true that. cheers
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:44 pm

    i respect psv's swagger domestically in the league but ajax have done holland proud over the years in europe while feyenoord have won the latest european cup for holland in '02 in the uefa cup.

    ajax in europe > psv
    feyenoord in europe > psv
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:13 am

    Axeslammer ! wrote:Good to see that has beens Ajax and Feyenoord are fighting over who's the biggest club of Holland, when looking over the past 20 years it's undoubtedly PSV...

    Let's look beyond 20years ..
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    Post by Since 1888 Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:14 am

    rai Mihawk wrote:
    Axeslammer ! wrote:Good to see that has beens Ajax and Feyenoord are fighting over who's the biggest club of Holland, when looking over the past 20 years it's undoubtedly PSV...

    Let's look beyond 20years ..

    Let's look on the total history of dutch football. If so then Sparta is part of the top 4 wich they are obviously are not.
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:19 am

    SpartaR wrote:
    rai Mihawk wrote:
    Axeslammer ! wrote:Good to see that has beens Ajax and Feyenoord are fighting over who's the biggest club of Holland, when looking over the past 20 years it's undoubtedly PSV...

    Let's look beyond 20years ..

    Let's look on the total history of dutch football. If so then Sparta is part of the top 4 wich they are obviously are not.

    The most successful = the biggest, plus add fan base ..

    The more Successful you are - throughout history, the more ££$$€€ you get .. so the 'bigger' you get

    Concerning Sparta Rotterdam - For sure they have a big fan base .. plus they are the 1st 'professional' club in Dutch football history.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:27 am

    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:
    Fey wrote:

    Well its more like the board against Rai..and d'gorgeous sometimes..

    yeps!

    except from ricardojol (not biased except pro the english, and most insightful!) and leo (peace be upon him)

    i guess the few dutch on this mb are taking their frustrations about our current bondscoach out on the club where he became famous. ajax.

    or

    because he only selects rubbish ajax players lol! (yeah right! that's why we are leading the rankings huh, it's because they are rubbish! looooooooool Razz)

    I am sorry I am too much pro england biased on here... Wink

    PSV are the most stable Dutch team over the last 20 years. Ajax are the number two... and behind those two clubs we only have sub top teams!
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:44 am

    meant to say the opposite. Wink
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:47 am

    ajax have won more trophies in the last 20 years than psv

    :bliss:
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:48 am

    You mean Feyenoord or Den Haag are the greatest teams of the last 20 years....?
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:49 am

    nah.
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:50 am

    anyhowwwwwww, this thread is about the 2006/2007 season and look who's on top!

    cheers
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:50 am

    What then....?

    BTW PSV have always been in the top of the Dutch league while Ajax had more dips....
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:55 am

    that's because we were too busy grossing in european cups.

    we have won the most domestically in holland, we were seeking higher that's why we're european elite when it comes to the history of european cups and psv are not.

    that's why we were also one of the four founding members of the g14.

    cheers
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:56 am

    ricardojol wrote:What then....?


    not pro english but the opposite (to some), surely you know this already Wink
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:57 am

    PSV have not been their normal selves, especially from last season .. maybe the departures of players and Hiddink have effected them ..

    At the moment, i say its between AZ and Ajax .. maybe PSV will go on a roll of games winning and pull themselves into the title race, same could be said for Feyenoord ..
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:01 am

    PSV play almost like last year...! I see hardly any difference except that Vennegoor has gone.... and that's a very big loss for them because he fitted extremely well in its system!

    PSV are also 8 or 9 years in a row playing CL!

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