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    Post by COTR Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:16 pm

    S4P wrote:Lampard would be better in La Liga and Serie A because the game is more technical and a lot slower. The players in those leagues can actually control a pass, which is probably why Gerrard never joined Real Madrid when he had the chance.

    Add to the fact Lamps is still one of the best central midfielders around, £8m seems a bargain.
    you don't really class him as a central midfielder do you SP???

    and one of the best affraid affraid affraid Smile
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    Post by S4P Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:19 pm

    COTR wrote:
    S4P wrote:Lampard would be better in La Liga and Serie A because the game is more technical and a lot slower. The players in those leagues can actually control a pass, which is probably why Gerrard never joined Real Madrid when he had the chance.

    Add to the fact Lamps is still one of the best central midfielders around, £8m seems a bargain.
    you don't really class him as a central midfielder do you SP???

    and one of the best affraid affraid affraid Smile

    Man, if Lampard was the best player on the pitch (e.g. the Camp Nou), he would still be "very poor" in your eyes hey cotr Wink

    Fwank can still do a very good job at the highest level (not sure for how much longer though).
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    Post by Dejan Savićević Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:21 pm

    Target Man wrote:But Kaka will be at RM Wink Whistle

    You wish. Suspect

    I would like to see how well he could play in Serie A, I think he would be well suited. But I can't see him leaving Chelsea and if he did, I think he would rather go to Barca.
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    Post by COTR Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:22 pm

    S4P wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    S4P wrote:Lampard would be better in La Liga and Serie A because the game is more technical and a lot slower. The players in those leagues can actually control a pass, which is probably why Gerrard never joined Real Madrid when he had the chance.

    Add to the fact Lamps is still one of the best central midfielders around, £8m seems a bargain.
    you don't really class him as a central midfielder do you SP???

    and one of the best affraid affraid affraid Smile

    Man, if Lampard was the best player on the pitch (e.g. the Camp Nou), he would still be "very poor" in your eyes hey cotr Wink

    Fwank can still do a very good job at the highest level (not sure for how much longer though).
    I actually thought he was one of the worst players on the pitch in that game bar a 10 minute spell where he mishit a cross Smile

    he isn't a central midfielder. he has two players constantly behind him doing the midfield work for him so he I can't class him as one im afraid

    but you are right. he simply doesn't have the ability to impress me in a game. it's absolutly impossible for him no matter what he does
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    Post by Nightwing Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:24 pm

    I thought KAKA and CESC-FAB were already at Real Shitrid??? Laughing
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    Post by fcb Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:24 pm

    ***Forza Milan*** wrote:
    Target Man wrote:But Kaka will be at RM Wink Whistle

    You wish. Suspect

    I would like to see how well he could play in Serie A, I think he would be well suited. But I can't see him leaving Chelsea and if he did, I think he would rather go to Barca.

    I'd rather he didn't bother.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:06 pm

    He doesn't have good enough technique to play midfield for Milan IMO.

    Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf are obviously technically great.

    Gattuso is less obvious but although he can't strike a ball well he is much better than people make out - he has decent enough 1st touch and is good at playing pass and move.
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    Post by Kevin Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:17 pm

    Ballack wrote:8 million for Franky? Hmm im tempted. Obi Mikel has shown that he can step up to the task and it would allow Ballack time/space/everything on the pitch.

    Has Mikel really shown he can step up? hes got the class for sure but he hasnt looked anything near as good as he could be for chelsea-he's done very little to be honest.
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    Post by S4P Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:28 pm

    Kevin wrote:
    Ballack wrote:8 million for Franky? Hmm im tempted. Obi Mikel has shown that he can step up to the task and it would allow Ballack time/space/everything on the pitch.

    Has Mikel really shown he can step up? hes got the class for sure but he hasnt looked anything near as good as he could be for chelsea-he's done very little to be honest.

    Except nulify the attacking qualities of Gerrard, only for Gerrard to be given MOTM for playing a few accurate passes/hoofs to Crouch Doh
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    Post by COTR Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:30 pm

    S4P wrote:
    Kevin wrote:
    Ballack wrote:8 million for Franky? Hmm im tempted. Obi Mikel has shown that he can step up to the task and it would allow Ballack time/space/everything on the pitch.

    Has Mikel really shown he can step up? hes got the class for sure but he hasnt looked anything near as good as he could be for chelsea-he's done very little to be honest.

    Except nulify the attacking qualities of Gerrard, only for Gerrard to be given MOTM for playing a few accurate passes/hoofs to Crouch Doh
    scraping the barrel bare here SP Smile
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    Post by DD Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:42 am

    Obispo wrote:Hmm... Kaká or Lampard? ... Stankovic or Lampard?

    Oh it's a toughy.
    Of course Obi, very poor. Has Kaka ever been the 2nd best player of the world!?

    Your answer right there.
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    Post by S4P Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:55 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm85R-npOd0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Cy6GXg0pQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n2XZYasGC8
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    Post by L r d Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:01 pm

    So a couple of hoofs and a cross?
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    Post by S4P Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:13 pm

    If you want hoofs, look no further:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1yjFuqzx7w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1slwHP_XzmA
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    Post by COTR Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:17 pm

    S4P wrote:If you want hoofs, look no further:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1yjFuqzx7w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1slwHP_XzmA
    funny how you didnt choose this one from that game

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB8X2KAjSwg Wink

    anyway konchesky's cross in that game>>>> slug's cross vrs barca
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:22 pm

    If the Milan clubs want a lampard type player, they should go for sneijder who is younger and has far beter technique too- he's a better version of lampard ok .
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    Post by S4P Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:26 pm

    COTR wrote:
    S4P wrote:If you want hoofs, look no further:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1yjFuqzx7w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1slwHP_XzmA
    funny how you didnt choose this one from that game

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB8X2KAjSwg Wink

    anyway konchesky's cross in that game>>>> slug's cross vrs barca

    No that was a fine goal because he meant to put the ball in the top corner. But if a player who earns as much as Gerrard can't score from 10 yards, you'd be pretty angry (although we've all seen him miss from 10 yards before Wink)

    Unlike Konchesky who had men to aim at, Lamps didn't have this leisure, and you can quite clearly see that he meant to score by his footwork. He just simply outfoxed the Barcelona defence.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:29 pm

    S4P wrote:
    Unlike Konchesky who had men to aim at, Lamps didn't have this leisure, and you can quite clearly see that he meant to score by his footwork. He just simply outfoxed the Barcelona defence.

    Laugh ok

    He lost his head and just crossed hoping somebody would get on the end of it..
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:31 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    S4P wrote:
    Unlike Konchesky who had men to aim at, Lamps didn't have this leisure, and you can quite clearly see that he meant to score by his footwork. He just simply outfoxed the Barcelona defence.

    Laugh ok

    He lost his head and just crossed hoping somebody would get on the end of it..

    I'm with S4P on this one, honestly think he meant it.

    If dinho had done it we'd never have heard the end of it
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    Post by S4P Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:32 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    S4P wrote:
    Unlike Konchesky who had men to aim at, Lamps didn't have this leisure, and you can quite clearly see that he meant to score by his footwork. He just simply outfoxed the Barcelona defence.

    Laugh ok

    He lost his head and just crossed hoping somebody would get on the end of it..

    These are the excuses you Barca fans have to cover up your goalkeeper, who is so agile that he can barely jump 6 inches off the floor?

    I have never known a player to put in a cross 1/2 a metre from the goaline, when none of his team mates are anywhere near the 6 yard box.
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    Post by S4P Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:33 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    S4P wrote:
    Unlike Konchesky who had men to aim at, Lamps didn't have this leisure, and you can quite clearly see that he meant to score by his footwork. He just simply outfoxed the Barcelona defence.

    Laugh ok

    He lost his head and just crossed hoping somebody would get on the end of it..

    I'm with S4P on this one, honestly think he meant it.

    If dinho had done it we'd never have heard the end of it

    ok

    I was nearly crucified when I said Dinho's goal at Stamford Bridge was lucky.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:35 pm

    S4P wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    S4P wrote:
    Unlike Konchesky who had men to aim at, Lamps didn't have this leisure, and you can quite clearly see that he meant to score by his footwork. He just simply outfoxed the Barcelona defence.

    Laugh ok

    He lost his head and just crossed hoping somebody would get on the end of it..

    These are the excuses you Barca fans have to cover up your goalkeeper, who is so agile that he can barely jump 6 inches off the floor?

    I have never known a player to put in a cross 1/2 a metre from the goaline, when none of his team mates are anywhere near the 6 yard box.

    As I said he lost his head, players do odd things when they are stressed.. it was a fluke, like Dinho's freekick against England back in 2002..
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    Post by COTR Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:35 pm

    haha come on.. he is off balance.. looks towards the centre circle and it's even ridiculous to suggest someone would shoot from there and with that kind of body shape.


    it's impossible to know for sure but it was 99.9% a cross
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:36 pm

    I also believe he meant it. He is a guy who never pass or cross when in the 18 yard box, he always shoot even from the most ridiculous angles.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:36 pm

    COTR wrote:haha come on.. he is off balance.. looks towards the centre circle and it's even ridiculous to suggest someone would shoot from there and with that kind of body shape.


    it's impossible to know for sure but it was 99.9% a cross

    Exactly.. only Stoichkov or Hagi would have tried a stunt like that.. and they were pretty mental.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:37 pm

    COTR wrote:haha come on.. he is off balance.. looks towards the centre circle and it's even ridiculous to suggest someone would shoot from there and with that kind of body shape.


    it's impossible to know for sure but it was 99.9% a cross

    How can you be that sure?

    Just because its Lampard you immediately dismiss it
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    Post by COTR Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:38 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    COTR wrote:haha come on.. he is off balance.. looks towards the centre circle and it's even ridiculous to suggest someone would shoot from there and with that kind of body shape.


    it's impossible to know for sure but it was 99.9% a cross

    How can you be that sure?

    Just because its Lampard you immediately dismiss it
    it honestly has nothing to do with being lampard although you won't believe me of course. look at his body shape and look at his head. he has no idea what he is doing. it's a simple knock it back across the middle and see what will happen and what happened is it went in. there is certainly no element of skill involved Smile
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:41 pm

    Agooner wrote:I also believe he meant it. He is a guy who never pass or cross when in the 18 yard box, he always shoot even from the most ridiculous angles.

    Look at the clip and you can see that he has no clue where the Barcelona defenders are, where Valdés is or whether anybody has started to run into the box..

    He only has a brief glance at Drogba to see whether he is close, and then proceeds to turn and cross hoping that whoever is on the right wing has made a run towards goal.
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    Post by S4P Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:42 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    COTR wrote:haha come on.. he is off balance.. looks towards the centre circle and it's even ridiculous to suggest someone would shoot from there and with that kind of body shape.


    it's impossible to know for sure but it was 99.9% a cross

    How can you be that sure?

    Just because its Lampard you immediately dismiss it
    it honestly has nothing to do with being lampard although you won't believe me of course. look at his body shape and look at his head. he has no idea what he is doing. it's a simple knock it back across the middle and see what will happen and what happened is it went in. there is certainly no element of skill involved Smile

    And yet it's strange because, as soon as he gets the ball under control, he looks up and sees who's available.

    No element of skill, I'll remind you of that next time Agger, Gerrard, Riise hit a shot from 30 yards Wink
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:43 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Agooner wrote:I also believe he meant it. He is a guy who never pass or cross when in the 18 yard box, he always shoot even from the most ridiculous angles.

    Look at the clip and you can see that he has no clue where the Barcelona defenders are, where Valdés is or whether anybody has started to run into the box..

    He only has a brief glance at Drogba to see whether he is close, and then proceeds to turn and cross hoping that whoever is on the right wing has made a run towards goal.

    He NEVER passes in the box though Smile

    People just can't beleive that someone they beleive to have no footballing ability could do such a thing, look how unshocked it was when it went in

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