The Liverpool discussion thread 2006/2007

sick

Luis wrote:sick

sick as in = "cool"?

you want him to come up against zambrotta...

my attempt at a rude joke

Luis wrote:you want him to come up against zambrotta...

my attempt at a rude joke

Whats wrong with that

Zambrotta v Bellamy could be a good duel

not good to have a 'dirty' mind

The other spelling of come rai



The only thing im gutted about with the so called 'fight' is that it will be all the press will talk about in the run up to the game now. the fact that the two main trash papers today had entirely different versions of events and culprits proves that most of this is B/S and operating through word of mouth and rumours. could end up in as a lovely law suit for the NOTW to lose some more money

who/what would you prefer started Rai, crouch, bellamy or 4-5-1?

Start Crouch and Kuyt .. only because Cruijff fears them

Will Alonso be available?

Rai Krol wrote:Start Crouch and Kuyt .. only because Cruijff fears them

Will Alonso be available?

Yes.

The back four is a certainty

finnan...carra...agger...riise

momo, gerrard and xabi are then also certainties so that just leaves the shape to see who else plays. I think he'll go 4-4-2 with gerrard as a right winger and auerlio left but he may play gerrard left and pennant right. if it's 4-5-1 then all five will play with gerrard having a free role behind kuyt. this is the formation I really really really don't want to see us playing as it will just be siege on our goals. so im hoping it's

gerrard...momo...alonso..auerlio

..........kuyt........bellamy

there is enough power and workrate in this midfield to disrupt xavi and co as well as the correct defensive capabilities. however with auerlio and momo we will lose a bit going forward which is why id pick bellamy over crouch. in a game where our midfield will be stretched bellamy provides more options for xabi and gerrard rather than the hoof to crouch. I can't see crouch getting much joy at all in the nou camp.

Crouch can do wonders as a sub .. just push Barca back.

The back four you has stated, is IMO Liverpool's best

Agger will relish being at the Nou Camp

Is Auerlio preferred only because he and Riise compliment each other so well?

Luis wrote:@ Grim, how is he over-rated? everyone says he's a cunt who's average at best, on the field he is extremely under-rated, he's a fantastic player, off the field yes he's got a bit of an attitude problem

Scores against mediocre teams and people make him out to be a legend

I dont hate him for his "off the field" antics - i hate him for footballing reasons - he's simply not good enough for Liverpool.

The Grim Reaper wrote:

Luis wrote:@ Grim, how is he over-rated? everyone says he's a cunt who's average at best, on the field he is extremely under-rated, he's a fantastic player, off the field yes he's got a bit of an attitude problem

Scores against mediocre teams and people make him out to be a legend

I dont hate him for his "off the field" antics - i hate him for footballing reasons - he's simply not good enough for Liverpool.

who exactly? besides me

Rai Krol wrote:Crouch can do wonders as a sub .. just push Barca back.

The back four you has stated, is IMO Liverpool's best

Agger will relish being at the Nou Camp

Is Auerlio preferred only because he and Riise compliment each other so well?

he is preferred because of

A) his la liga knowledge which shades his selection over pennant for me. the other options are zenden or gonzalez.

B) his set pieces ie anything to stop gerrard wasting them

C) his defensive abilities to stop guily or messi

Id be happy to see him there. Riise and auerlio will surely provide enough of a threat down that wing as well as keeping secure which will leave gerrard and finnan to cope with ronny on the other side

The Grim Reaper wrote:

Luis wrote:@ Grim, how is he over-rated? everyone says he's a cunt who's average at best, on the field he is extremely under-rated, he's a fantastic player, off the field yes he's got a bit of an attitude problem

Scores against mediocre teams and people make him out to be a legend

I dont hate him for his "off the field" antics - i hate him for footballing reasons - he's simply not good enough for Liverpool.

Ive been impressed with him lately. he'll never be a legend but the more confidence he gains the better he will get. wednesday is a massive test of his credentials though and we'll find out a lot more about him after then

Luis wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:

Luis wrote:@ Grim, how is he over-rated? everyone says he's a cunt who's average at best, on the field he is extremely under-rated, he's a fantastic player, off the field yes he's got a bit of an attitude problem

Scores against mediocre teams and people make him out to be a legend

I dont hate him for his "off the field" antics - i hate him for footballing reasons - he's simply not good enough for Liverpool.

who exactly? besides me

Luis - this isnt the only forum i go to you know.

Not having a go at you - I just dont like Bellamy

I know, you've had it in for him from day one, oh well

Luis wrote:I know, you've had it in for him from day one, oh well

Ditto. He's not good enough.

you just don't know a good footballer

COTR wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:

Luis wrote:@ Grim, how is he over-rated? everyone says he's a cunt who's average at best, on the field he is extremely under-rated, he's a fantastic player, off the field yes he's got a bit of an attitude problem

Scores against mediocre teams and people make him out to be a legend

I dont hate him for his "off the field" antics - i hate him for footballing reasons - he's simply not good enough for Liverpool.

Ive been impressed with him lately. he'll never be a legend but the more confidence he gains the better he will get. wednesday is a massive test of his credentials though and we'll find out a lot more about him after then

We'll see

I just want us to be more clinical in front of goal - be it Bellamy or any other striker..... not too much to ask is it.

If only we were - we'd be top of the league by now - and we wouldnt have this "United play the best football in the league" bullshit

We easily play the best football in the league - the amount of chances we create per game is scary - if only we were more clinical - we would easily score 3+ per game

PS: Bellamy's not a bad player in Pro Evo though

Valencia 2 Barca 1

COTR wrote:
The back four is a certainty

finnan...carra...agger...riise.

Y'reckon? I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Rafa try something different just to throw Barca completely.

I want to see:

- - - - - - - - - Reina
- Arbeloa - Carragher - Agger
Finnan - Alonso - Sissoko - Aurelio
- - Gerrard - - - - - Gonzalez
- - - - - - - - Crouch

Could switch back to 4-4-1-1 if needed with Gerrard in the hole. Oh well.

It won't matter, Rijkaard isn't a tactical manager like Mourinho or Benitez who will make the team adapt to different situations. We will come out and play the same way we always do, so basically you just have to pick the formation that will help you the most to achieve your aim of getting a draw. No chess involved here.

kas wrote:It won't matter, Rijkaard isn't a tactical manager like Mourinho or Benitez who will make the team adapt to different situations. We will come out and play the same way we always do, so basically you just have to pick the formation that will help you the most to achieve your aim of getting a draw. No chess involved here.

A draw

I just hope your players and manager think the same.

The most important thing, as far as I see it - aside from not being out of the game come the 2nd leg, obviously - is getting an away goal. I think we'd be lucky to keep you to one clean-sheet. Two is pushing it.

I'm fairly certain Barca will score at Anfield actually. Fortunately, we'll be 4-1 up from the first leg so the 1-1 draw at Anfield won't be too disasterous

The Grim Reaper wrote:
A draw

I just hope your players and manager think the same.

You have to ignore the general Barca ignorance. They still think that Eto'o won't be moving here in the summer

The Grim Reaper wrote:

kas wrote:It won't matter, Rijkaard isn't a tactical manager like Mourinho or Benitez who will make the team adapt to different situations. We will come out and play the same way we always do, so basically you just have to pick the formation that will help you the most to achieve your aim of getting a draw. No chess involved here.

A draw

I just hope your players and manager think the same.

Like Luis, all I can do is refer you to read Reina and/or Kuyt's recent comments in the buildup to the match. Especially Kuyt, if you want an explicit statement of your squad's approach. They're in the thread on the Cups board.

Sorry to burst your bubble mate, and don't shoot the messenger.

Where he will be joined by Alves, Villa, Kaká..

wait... make that Pedersen, Campo and some Racing youth player

Kas, you seem to really try and put Liverpool down a lot, are you scared? defensive tactics away from home doesn't mean we are looking to lose

We are not scared of you but we realise that it will be a very tight and dificult game.. We just dislike your footballing style

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:We are not scared of you but we realise that it will be a very tight and dificult game.. We just dislike your footballing style

sorry we can't produce the 'magic' that you play where Ronaldinho scores by pretending he's alseep before running past 4 defenders and putting the ball in the net, if you expect us to come and play a 4-3-3 you don't know a lot about football

Luis wrote:

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:We are not scared of you but we realise that it will be a very tight and dificult game.. We just dislike your footballing style

sorry we can't produce the 'magic' that you play where Ronaldinho scores by pretending he's alseep before running past 4 defenders and putting the ball in the net, if you expect us to come and play a 4-3-3 you don't know a lot about football

I know that you are not going to play attacking football at Camp Nou but it still doesn't change the fact that i don't like your footballing style.. It is a question of taste and footballing traditions, but that doesn't make your style bad or worse than ours..

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:We are not scared of you but we realise that it will be a very tight and dificult game.. We just dislike your footballing style

Well you'll forgive me for not being particularly keen on your current style of "set piece" football. Set pieces you usually gain from dives. Far uglier than playing it direct occasionally if you ask me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wod2GnTZPJU