Italia vs Scotland

bobkatfan wrote:You underestimate Scotland my friend. We didn't get to 16th in the world by losing.

Im not underestimating Scotland, Im just aware that Italy at home are simply formidable. The most miserly team defensively Ive ever seen, breaking down an italian defence is an art form very few teams are capable of. they are also extremely clever at pushing the limits of sportsmanship:

I expect a 1-0 with an italian counter

I Am Weasel wrote:

bobkatfan wrote:You underestimate Scotland my friend. We didn't get to 16th in the world by losing.

Im not underestimating Scotland, Im just aware that Italy at home are simply formidable. The most miserly team defensively Ive ever seen, breaking down an italian defence is an art form very few teams are capable of. they are also extremely clever at pushing the limits of sportsmanship:

I expect a 1-0 with an italian counter

You do know that we drew at home 1-1 with Lithuania don't you? In the qualifier and lost 2-0 at home to Croatia in a friendly?

I can see what you are saying...but to say it will be easy is 100% wrong IMO...

I stand by it. Bring me a Scotland victory and I'll bring you a new born baby who can smoke 20 marlboro reds without crying

I Am Weasel wrote:I stand by it. Bring me a Scotland victory and I'll bring you a new born baby who can smoke 20 marlboro reds without crying

Evidently you never met my uncle.

I did, Bob was his name.

Who the hell writes the football italia articles now?

"Nonetheless, it is expected that Donadoni will start against Scotland with this line-up: Buffon; Oddo, Cannavaro, Materazzi, Zambrotta; Gattuso, De Rossi; Camoranesi, Perrotta, Di Natale; Totti."

No Pirlo? no Del Piero? Totti upfront? is this guy on crack?

ADO Bhoy wrote:

DeanoTheEmo-WHUFC wrote:Barry Ferguson wants Scotland to come at us and try and put us on the back foot.

Brave if they try that.

I sincerely hope we do go at the Italians. I'd love us to go 4-4-2 and attack them. Can't see it though, I think we'll go with a 4-5-1 and try and stifle Italy.
Being a fan of attacking football, I hate to see that happening.
I'd rather we attack, and if we lose, so be it, but at least we go down fighting!

FORZA SCOZIA!!

Scozia di merda!

I think Italy will win this comfortably.

2-0 to the Azzurri.

DeanoTheEmo-WHUFC wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

bluenine wrote:Thats the one I am talking about!!

BoBo Vieri wrote:Can't believe Camoranesi still gets in the squad

I'd go with Toni supported by Del Piero and Rocchi.

That would be the best trio IMO.

Although I do like Di Natale, Del Piero lurking behind Toni has something special about it.

That's what I'd go with....and then bring on The Quag later

I reckon Quag will play at least 25 minutes...well I hope so.

If it's 0-0 at half-time, Donadoni will sub 2 strikers by the end of the game.

I thought Totti was out for the match.

BoBo Vieri wrote:Who the hell writes the football italia articles now?

"Nonetheless, it is expected that Donadoni will start against Scotland with this line-up: Buffon; Oddo, Cannavaro, Materazzi, Zambrotta; Gattuso, De Rossi; Camoranesi, Perrotta, Di Natale; Totti."

No Pirlo? no Del Piero? Totti upfront? is this guy on crack?

Seriously?

Bloody hell. What an idiot.

Totti is out, that article is wrong.

phew scared the piss outta me

Totti

BoBo Vieri wrote:Who the hell writes the football italia articles now?

"Nonetheless, it is expected that Donadoni will start against Scotland with this line-up: Buffon; Oddo, Cannavaro, Materazzi, Zambrotta; Gattuso, De Rossi; Camoranesi, Perrotta, Di Natale; Totti."

No Pirlo? no Del Piero? Totti upfront? is this guy on crack?

I wish I was as confident!

I hope they do, tho.... it will be a sad Euro without the world champions!!

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

ADO Bhoy wrote:

DeanoTheEmo-WHUFC wrote:Barry Ferguson wants Scotland to come at us and try and put us on the back foot.

Brave if they try that.

I sincerely hope we do go at the Italians. I'd love us to go 4-4-2 and attack them. Can't see it though, I think we'll go with a 4-5-1 and try and stifle Italy.
Being a fan of attacking football, I hate to see that happening.
I'd rather we attack, and if we lose, so be it, but at least we go down fighting!

FORZA SCOZIA!!

Scozia di merda!

I think Italy will win this comfortably.

2-0 to the Azzurri.

bluenine wrote:I wish I was as confident!

I hope they do, tho.... it will be a sad Euro without the world champions!!

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

ADO Bhoy wrote:

DeanoTheEmo-WHUFC wrote:Barry Ferguson wants Scotland to come at us and try and put us on the back foot.

Brave if they try that.

I sincerely hope we do go at the Italians. I'd love us to go 4-4-2 and attack them. Can't see it though, I think we'll go with a 4-5-1 and try and stifle Italy.
Being a fan of attacking football, I hate to see that happening.
I'd rather we attack, and if we lose, so be it, but at least we go down fighting!

FORZA SCOZIA!!

Scozia di merda!

I think Italy will win this comfortably.

2-0 to the Azzurri.

Bluenine, sleep well my friend.

Italy will handily beat the Scots.

SIAMO CAMPIONI DEL MONDO! SIAMO CAMPIONI DEL MONDO!

The article isn't as silly as you think.

The general agreements in the Italian medias is that Pirlo will not start, nor Del Piero, instead Donadoni is planning some new tactic, they say with Di Natale providing the main support, with help from midfield, a more 'Roma' style tactic, except of course Donadoni is no Spalletti! , . As for Totti, well somebody probably spelt the Toni wrong!

As for Donadoni, the pressure from the medias has been unbearable, he is unable to cope with the pressure, it's not the first time he has lost his temper in public conferences before either, the players though have issued their token show of support. The real affirmation comes on the pitch tonight.

As for Channel 4's reliability, generally they get the news about one or two hours after Italy, allowing for translation time and verifications obviously, the articles are condensed and abridged, and they seem to leave out all the best bits like interviews instead they go for the more 'gossip' articles from Calciomercato and that Turin rag 'Tuttosport'

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Nazionale/Primo_Piano/2007/03_Marzo/27/popup_formazione.shtml

Quagliarella-Gilardino, ballottaggio in panca

Roberto Donadoni la formazione non la dice, ma tutto fa pensare che il 4-2-3-1 sarà quello ipotizzato da un paio di giorni. Buffon? L'uno per cento di dubbio resta, ma conoscendolo, farà di tutto per non mancare alla festa del San Nicola. La possibile sorpresa? In panchina, Quagliarella se la gioca con Gilardino.

ITALIA (4-2-3-1): 1 Buffon; 22 Oddo, 5 Cannavaro, 23 Materazzi, 19 Zambrotta; 8 Gattuso, 10 De Rossi; 16 DONKEY, 20 Perrotta, 11 Di Natale; 9 Toni (22 Abbiati, 6 Barzagli, 3 Tonetto, 24 Mauri, 21 Pirlo, 7 Del Piero, 18 Gilardino).

Non scherza affatto il simpatico Alex McLeish. Dice che la qualificazione dei suoi ragazzi passa da Bari. Quindi? "Ci comporteremo di conseguenza". E avverte Donadoni: "Non siamo venuti qui per pareggiare e anche se gli scommettitori ci danno sfavoriti noi cercheremo di vincere". Aggiungendo un particolare da non sottovalutare: "La pioggia che è caduta oggi su Bari ha reso il campo pesante e noi lo preferiamo così: è un vantaggio che vogliamo sfruttare. Crediamo di poter cogliere un buon risultato e farlo ci farebbe tornare a casa soddisfatti".

SCOZIA (4-1-4-1): 1 Gordon; 2 Alexander, 4 Weir, 5 Pressley, 3 Naysmith; 6 Dailly; 7 Brown, 8 Ferguson, 10 Hartley, 11 Mcculloch; 9 Miller (12 McGregor, 13 McManus. 14 Murty, 15 Severin, 16 Beattie, 17 Teale, 18 Boyd).

You're lucky Fletcher isn't playing.

I don't know what the Italians are worried about, we could easily have lost to Georgia on Sat. I will be amazed if Italy don't win, also we are very bad at playing 2 games in a week, our players always get a bit tired because they spend so much time running around like headless chickens.

Italy should win no doubt about that (2-0). I don't think Scotland are as good playing away than at home.

You forget that Scott Brown will be unleashed tonight.

Well the Italy lineup doesnt look too good. Definately not what i was hoping for.

BoBo Vieri wrote:Well the Italy lineup doesnt look too good. Definately not what i was hoping for.

I dont like the fact that...

Materazzi is playing over Barzagli
Pirlo isn't playing
Cameronesi is playing at all.

Ah well...I hope it fucking works...I really wated to see a 4-3-2-1 though!

DeanoTheEmo-WHUFC wrote:

BoBo Vieri wrote:Well the Italy lineup doesnt look too good. Definately not what i was hoping for.

I dont like the fact that...

Materazzi is playing over Barzagli
Pirlo isn't playing
Cameronesi is playing at all.

Ah well...I hope it fucking works...I really wated to see a 4-3-2-1 though!

Yes me too! I can't believe Bonera didnt even get in the squad either!

Is the lineup official though, or just speculation?

BoBo Vieri wrote:

DeanoTheEmo-WHUFC wrote:

BoBo Vieri wrote:Well the Italy lineup doesnt look too good. Definately not what i was hoping for.

I dont like the fact that...

Materazzi is playing over Barzagli
Pirlo isn't playing
Cameronesi is playing at all.

Ah well...I hope it fucking works...I really wated to see a 4-3-2-1 though!

Yes me too! I can't believe Bonera didnt even get in the squad either!

Is the lineup official though, or just speculation?

I'm not sure...I think it's just an expected line up....we'll soon see anyway.

Hopefully it changes and that Pirlo is playing at least...

i'd like scotland to win so that france dont qualify. but i want you guys in there to. hmm what a conundrum

Ballack wrote:i'd like scotland to win so that france dont qualify. but i want you guys in there to. hmm what a conundrum

If Scotland win France will qualify....that will end our hopes near enough and leave France and Scotland in a strong position.

Looks like thats the lineup he's gone with. We need to score yet we leave probably our most 2 creative players out in DP and Pirlo.

Fuck!

Toni scores

Decent header