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    Messi's Incredible Maradona-esque goal

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    Which goal was better?

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    Post by fcb Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:46 am

    Since not everyone will read the Spanish Copa Del Rey thread, I felt it'd be good to have a thread here as a tribute to the amazing goal we saw this 19-year old score last night.

    Also vote above on which you think was better - Messi's goal or Maradona's in 86. Most online readers of the Spanish newspapers are voting for Messi's goal, though I personally would rate Maradona's slightly higher because of the little 360 degree turn he did when starting his run, and the occasion (World Cup quarter-final).


    Messi's goal (Spanish commentary):
    https://www.dailymotion.com/search/Messi/video/x1r38i_barcelona-2-0-getafe-180407-messi

    Messi's goal (Arabic commentary - much more exciting!):
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1r9pb_messi-vs-getafe-maradona-goal

    Maradona's goal:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPWsGMsHDlo&NR=1

    A comparison of both:
    http://www.as.com/videos/?xref=20070419dasdasftb_2.Ves&pagina=1


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    Post by Mexicanbecks Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:59 am

    very similar goals , maradona against better players and with more at stake. MARADONA!
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    Post by fcb Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:02 am

    Spanish speakers may enjoy these links. They're clips of live Spanish commentary on various radio stations. I've taken the links from Marca's webpage. Clicking a link will open Windows Media Player on your computer to play it.

    (note how almost all the commentators scream "madre mia" Laugh )

    Marca:
    mms://wmedia.recoletos.es/marca/radiomarca/cortes_180407/golmessihistorico.asf

    Ser:
    mms://wmedia.recoletos.es/marca/radiomarca/cortes_180407/sergolmessi.asf

    Cope:
    mms://wmedia.recoletos.es/marca/radiomarca/cortes_180407/copegolmessi.asf

    Onda Cero (careful with the volume on this one!):
    mms://wmedia.recoletos.es/marca/radiomarca/cortes_180407/ondacerogolmessi.asf

    Punto R:
    mms://wmedia.recoletos.es/marca/radiomarca/cortes_180407/puntoradiogolmessi.mp3
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    Post by A & K Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:02 am

    Two outstanding goals, but the one of Maradona was against a much tougher opposition and during the world cup.
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    Post by jdbfs Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:36 am

    Have to agree with what others said. Maradona against better competition and higher stakes.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:59 am

    I read about the goal and was hoping someone would post a link : thanks !

    I can understand the comparison, both goals are indeed very simular.

    Maradonna has everything going for him except two things : he was on drugs and the English players were completely exhausted by the warm weather.

    I'm not gonna compare 'm anayway : both are incredible beauties that I want to see again....and aqain ok
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    Post by toon h Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:23 am

    I think Maradona's was better because it was at a higher platform, but then again the English defenders DID look pathetic in the process, falling on their bums without putting up any sort of fight.

    There is an in-depth comparison between the two goals in Marca, the former being scored btw one year and 2 days before Messi's birth!

    similar time (11 vs. 12 seconds), amount of touches (even if Messi used both feet and Maradona only his left) and the amount of players left behind (incl. the GK).

    very good goals by both, even if I myself am not convinced the Maradona effort was the best goal ever.
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    Post by robert Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:38 am

    Sensational goal, this being my reaction after my 1st ever view of the goal!

    Now to the comparrisons.

    Maradonna's was on a bigger stage against better opposition. However Messi's goal gets kudos for him being so young, (still 19!) and defenses being better organised units now than they were in 86.

    I won't chose one i'll just admire both for many years to come.

    Presidents in Spain are polite to each other and only celebrate their goals with clapping when sitting next to each other but Laporta's smirk from ear to ear alongside Getafe's president's disgust is hilarious.
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    Post by Bashmachkin Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:44 am

    They are remarkably similar goals. Messi moves faster with the ball, though personally I prefer the way the ball sticks to Maradona's feet - he uses a bit more close control, especially, like you say Kas, with the turn as soon as he gets the ball. Hes also perhaps under a little more pressure. The differences are arguably just due to time, the fact the game is played at a different pace now with a lighter ball. Anyway, both are magnificent goals.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:52 am

    Is this a genuine comparison?

    Else we can start comparing Dalian Atkinson's goal with Maradona's as well or how about Scott Sinclairs in the FA cup?

    Maradone scored it in the quarter final of the world cup against one of the favourites.

    Messi scored it against la liga equivalent of Fulham
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    Post by toon h Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:59 am

    Tweedle wrote:Is this a genuine comparison?

    Else we can start comparing Dalian Atkinson's goal with Maradona's as well or how about Scott Sinclairs in the FA cup?

    Maradone scored it in the quarter final of the world cup against one of the favourites.

    Messi scored it against la liga equivalent of Fulham

    I do not have any problem comparing other players' goals with the Maradona one as well. Maybe there have been better goals, I am open to any consideration.

    On the other hand, of course, one single goal, never mind how beautiful or skillful, will never make this player as good as Maradona. Maradona is considered by many the best player ever not because of that goal but because of many more things.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:11 am

    The drugs, the sex life, the perm Wink

    Its a great goal (by Messi) but Maradona's is widely regarded as the greatest EVER goal, not because is was particularly amazing (I've seen plenty other goals that have been just as good) but because of the occassion in which it was scored.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:11 am

    Maradona's. Like glue to his boot.
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    Post by Rez Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:13 am

    Tweedle wrote:Is this a genuine comparison?

    Else we can start comparing Dalian Atkinson's goal with Maradona's as well or how about Scott Sinclairs in the FA cup?

    Maradone scored it in the quarter final of the world cup against one of the favourites.

    Messi scored it against la liga equivalent of Fulham

    I know what you mean tweeds, Dalian Atkinson was a better goal than Messi's and if he had scored it in a world cup quarter final it would be better than Maradonna's. Every goal scored i dependent on the situation/occassion and the opposition. Eg Bergkamp scored two similar goals, onw was in a WC QF against Argentina, the other was in a league game at philbert street against Leicester City in the premiership. Clearly the one against argentina, is rated higher
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:13 am

    Whose was better then? Dalian Atkinson's or Messi's?
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:39 am

    Tweedle wrote:Whose was better then? Dalian Atkinson's or Messi's?

    Bergkamp's

    (or any Le Tiss goal)
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    Post by Rez Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:55 am

    Tweedle wrote:Whose was better then? Dalian Atkinson's or Messi's?

    Atkinson's, you sort of expect Messi to score goals like that, but not atkinson
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    Post by bluenine Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:26 am

    What a goal, and what a player young Messi is.... the more I see of him, the more impressed I get... he is the reason why I see all barca games I can...

    I hope Moratti goes for him this summer, not deco. Kas, how about £60 Million??
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    Post by Jaime Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:38 am

    @Tweeds

    Getafe>Fulham Wink

    Anyhow, it's really amazing how similar both goals are in terms of where the play developed on the field and the direction the run took. AS has a video clip that montages the two going back and forth between Maradona's goal and Messi's goal and the similarity is amazing. Anyhow, I'll stick with Maradona's for the same reasons everyone else but take nothing away from Messi. He's a genius.
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    Post by robert Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:13 pm

    What's with the avatar Jaime, is that your axis of evil?
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:18 pm

    Jaime wrote:@Tweeds

    Getafe>Fulham Wink


    True, I should have gone for Watford what with them maknig it to the FA cup semi's Wink
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    Post by Jaime Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:06 pm

    robert wrote:What's with the avatar Jaime, is that your axis of evil?

    Yeah, more or less. And my sig is a quote from Capello last summer saying that with Diarra, Emerson and Cannavaro Real Madrid would lose no more than 3 games all season. lol!
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:26 pm

    What a goal that was last night by Messi. Great stuff.

    If anyone's interested, to properly understand the level of pain I go through everyday at my job, I was in the lift with a group of my older work colleagues (colleagues- ie not friends) and one of them was asking who scored that supposed wonder goal he'd been hearing about all morning at work.

    So I tell him "it was Messi", to which the guy next to him pipes up with "well I hope he cleaned it up!". They all exploded with laughter and began patting him on the back whilst I made a quick exit shaking my head.

    Working in the city really is a hazard to your health
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:29 pm

    @ TRWP

    What is your vocation ?
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    Rai Krol 14 wrote:@ TRWP

    What is your vocation ?

    Training to become a Financial Advisor. Currently working the investments department of a local SME company as part of the process.

    Bit too office based at the mo for my liking but dont intend to be stuck here with, quite frankly, a bunch of socially retarded muppets for too long!
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    Post by TITO Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:21 pm

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    Post by Tweesus Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:56 pm

    Sounds like you work for the kind of blokes in that bank advert - with the two pricks - you're the blond guy shaking your head at the lack of humour and general incompetance.

    Where in the city do you work TRWP? I practically live in the city
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:02 pm

    What a goal take out the world cup factor and its very much the equal to Maradona's goal if not Better.

    and people say Ronaldo it the best player in the world and he could score a goal like this if he tried 100 times against Sunderland.(though he is having a great season)
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:08 pm

    What's Ronaldo got to do with it? Laughing
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:09 pm

    From UEFA

    Majestic Messi's 'work of art'

    FC Barcelona forward Lionel Messi has been renamed 'Messidona' by Spanish newspaper Marca after his spectacular goal against Getafe CF evoked memories of Diego Maradona's famous strike for Argentina in the 1986 FIFA World Cup.

    'Foot of God'

    The 19-year-old took a starring role in Barcelona's 5-2 victory against Getafe CF in the Copa del Rey semi-final first leg, although it was the first of his double that captured the imagination of the 53,599 Camp Nou spectators and the Spanish press. With Xavi Hernández having opened the scoring, Messi - as his compatriot Maradona had done in the World Cup quarter-finals 21 years ago - collected possession just inside his own half and proceeded to dribble past no fewer than six Getafe players before concluding his slalom by slotting in a goal that will live long in the memory. Mundo Deportivo headlined this morning's edition with "The Foot of God" and went on to say: "Messi transformed a simple cup match into a great occasion."

    'Work of art'

    "I saw I had space and I pushed forward," the Argentinian international said of his 29th-minute masterpiece. "It was quite good, my objective was the goal and I scored. I looked at Samuel Eto'o, but there were two defenders with him and I saw a space and went for it. It's a similar goal to Diego's, though I can't compare myself to him." Messi's coach Frank Rijkaard, for whom Eidur Gudjohsen and Eto'o were also on target, was more effusive: "Messi's goal was a work of art. He's a very talented player and scored a wonderful goal. It's true it's very similar to Maradona's goal, but I think Messi accelerated even more."

    Send an email

    uefa.com users will get the chance to quiz Messi about his wondrous strike, his hopes for the rest of the season and beyond, and much more. The best questions sent in this week will be asked to Messi, with his answers published in uefa.com's Magazine on Friday 27 April. When you send your question – by emailing info@uefa.com with the subject line 'Lionel Messi' – please remember to include your name.


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