Messi's Incredible Maradona-esque goal

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by Isco Benny Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:09 pm

Tweedle wrote:Sounds like you work for the kind of blokes in that bank advert - with the two pricks - you're the blond guy shaking your head at the lack of humour and general incompetance.

Where in the city do you work TRWP? I practically live in the city

Wrong city- I live in the city of Leeds at the moment.

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by Axeslammer Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:10 pm

Parks lives wrote:What's Ronaldo got to do with it?

Messi >>> Ronaldo

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by Isco Benny Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:11 pm

Messi is a poor man's Lennon

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by toon h Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:13 pm

I don't think Messi is the best player in the world at present. He is not yet the best player at Barça still. But I think that will change. Maybe not next season, even if he has contributed more than Ronaldinho whenever he has played, but definitely the season afterwards.

With regards to any other player currently gracing the world stage, he is more advanced than any other at that age was.

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by Machiavel Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:13 pm

Axeslammer wrote:

Parks lives wrote:What's Ronaldo got to do with it?

Messi >>> Ronaldo

Ronaldo (two footed) > Messi (one footed)

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by Axeslammer Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:14 pm

Rai Krol 14 wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:

Parks lives wrote:What's Ronaldo got to do with it?

Messi >>> Ronaldo

Ronaldo (two footed) > Messi (one footed)

Messi's one foot >>> Ronaldo's two feet

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by toon h Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:15 pm

Rai Krol 14 wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:

Parks lives wrote:What's Ronaldo got to do with it?

Messi >>> Ronaldo

Ronaldo (two footed) > Messi (one footed)

so Messi's goal > Maradona's goal because Maradona used 12 touches with one foot only (left) whereas Messi used 9 times the left and 3 times the right foot (including the last touch which netted the ball)?

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by Rez Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:16 pm

Messiah wrote:What a goal take out the world cup factor and its very much the equal to Maradona's goal if not Better.

and people say Ronaldo it the best player in the world and he could score a goal like this if he tried 100 times against Sunderland.(though he is having a great season)

Because Ronaldo is currently the best player in the world. Sunderland are pretty good at the moment, he couldnt score a goal like that because a Sunderland defender would have fouled him. Keane wouldnt let strikers run half the length of the pitch. Ronaldo and Messi are different types of players, only Giggs, Ronaldo (Brazilian one) and Robben score goals like that.

Ronaldo couldnt score some of the goals Rooney has scored and neither could Messi, does that make him better than both of them?

Ps the world cup factor is a huge factor, better players, bigger occassion and it was a close game, won by cheating and a moment of supreme brilliance. Barca won 5-2 against Gefate. Messi's goal was one of the goals of the season, but you cant compare it to Maradonna's, if he scores a goal like that against Chelsea in the CL QF/SF then you can compare them.

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by bluenine Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:16 pm

haha

and TRWP is a poor mans weasel Wink

I Am Weasel wrote:Messi is a poor man's Lennon

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by Isco Benny Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:18 pm

bluenine wrote:haha

and TRWP is a poor mans weasel

I Am Weasel wrote:Messi is a poor man's Lennon

I'll say it again-

Lionel Ritchie is a poor man's John Lennon

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by Parks lives Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:20 pm

So would it genuienly get in some people's top 10 goals of all time?

(I heard Kas say something similar).

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by Axeslammer Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:23 pm

Parks lives wrote:So would it genuienly get in some people's top 10 goals of all time?

(I heard Kas say something similar).

Nope no place left after 6 Bergkamps, 3 Le Tisses and 1 Cantona Smile

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by Rez Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:24 pm

toon h wrote:I don't think Messi is the best player in the world at present. He is not yet the best player at Barça still. But I think that will change. Maybe not next season, even if he has contributed more than Ronaldinho whenever he has played, but definitely the season afterwards.

With regards to any other player currently gracing the world stage, he is more advanced than any other at that age was.

More than Brazil Ronaldo, I dont think so, as a Barca fan you must know how good Ronaldo was.

Also Rooney, I think at 19 was as good as Messi is at 19, but they are different players, Rooney couldnt do the stuff Messi did and Messi couldnt do the stuff Rooney did. Messi is destined for greatness and he I think he will definitely be WPOTY before he is 24.

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by Machiavel Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:24 pm

Parks lives wrote:So would it genuienly get in some people's top 10 goals of all time?

(I heard Kas say something similar).

Sadly no .. i'm not taking anything away from the goal.

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by golsud Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:27 pm

Lennon is a poor mans Ezquerro.

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by Parks lives Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:31 pm

Rai Krol 14 wrote:

Parks lives wrote:So would it genuienly get in some people's top 10 goals of all time?

(I heard Kas say something similar).

Sadly no .. i'm not taking anything away from the goal.

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by toon h Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:43 pm

Rez wrote:

toon h wrote:I don't think Messi is the best player in the world at present. He is not yet the best player at Barça still. But I think that will change. Maybe not next season, even if he has contributed more than Ronaldinho whenever he has played, but definitely the season afterwards.

With regards to any other player currently gracing the world stage, he is more advanced than any other at that age was.

More than Brazil Ronaldo, I dont think so, as a Barca fan you must know how good Ronaldo was.

Also Rooney, I think at 19 was as good as Messi is at 19, but they are different players, Rooney couldnt do the stuff Messi did and Messi couldnt do the stuff Rooney did. Messi is destined for greatness and he I think he will definitely be WPOTY before he is 24.

Ronaldo was playing at PSV at 19 (well, in fact he just switched clubs at 19 years and 10 months which is what Messi is now).

I don't think Rooney is quite as good. What exactly does Rooney do that Messi can't apart from the physical side?

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by toon h Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:47 pm

OK, Rez, I admit it, Ronaldo was better than Messi at his age. He didn't really progress much though from there on.

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by Isco Benny Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:54 pm

toon h wrote:

Rez wrote:

toon h wrote:I don't think Messi is the best player in the world at present. He is not yet the best player at Barça still. But I think that will change. Maybe not next season, even if he has contributed more than Ronaldinho whenever he has played, but definitely the season afterwards.

With regards to any other player currently gracing the world stage, he is more advanced than any other at that age was.

More than Brazil Ronaldo, I dont think so, as a Barca fan you must know how good Ronaldo was.

Also Rooney, I think at 19 was as good as Messi is at 19, but they are different players, Rooney couldnt do the stuff Messi did and Messi couldnt do the stuff Rooney did. Messi is destined for greatness and he I think he will definitely be WPOTY before he is 24.

Ronaldo was playing at PSV at 19 (well, in fact he just switched clubs at 19 years and 10 months which is what Messi is now).

I don't think Rooney is quite as good. What exactly does Rooney do that Messi can't apart from the physical side?

Swear like a fucking trooper motherfucker

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by bluenine Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:55 pm

I am with Rez here, even tho I am probably one of the biggest Messi fans on this MB...

The big fat bucktooth was better and had achieved more at that age than Messi. At 20, Ronaldo was WPOTY, at 21 he was WPOTY twice. Remember, WPOTY is SO MUCH reputation driven that you need to have 1-2 tremendous seasons before you can have a hope to becoming one. At 19, Ronaldo had that kind of a reputation... he was HUGE at PSV, and his season at Barca. (He is HUGE now, but thats a different kinda huge Wink

)

At ages of 17-19, Ronaldo scored 42 goals in 46 games for PSV... at the age of 19-20 (year 2006), Ronaldo scored 34 goals in 37 games for Barca (no one has scorded 30+ goals in La Liga since) and won WPOTY. Thats the age Messi is now. The following year, Ronaldo won WPOTY again. Messi can only match that if he wins the WOPTY this year AND next. No chance.

toon h wrote:

Rez wrote:

toon h wrote:I don't think Messi is the best player in the world at present. He is not yet the best player at Barça still. But I think that will change. Maybe not next season, even if he has contributed more than Ronaldinho whenever he has played, but definitely the season afterwards.

With regards to any other player currently gracing the world stage, he is more advanced than any other at that age was.

More than Brazil Ronaldo, I dont think so, as a Barca fan you must know how good Ronaldo was.

Also Rooney, I think at 19 was as good as Messi is at 19, but they are different players, Rooney couldnt do the stuff Messi did and Messi couldnt do the stuff Rooney did. Messi is destined for greatness and he I think he will definitely be WPOTY before he is 24.

Ronaldo was playing at PSV at 19 (well, in fact he just switched clubs at 19 years and 10 months which is what Messi is now).

I don't think Rooney is quite as good. What exactly does Rooney do that Messi can't apart from the physical side?

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by Rez Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:55 pm

toon h wrote:OK, Rez, I admit it, Ronaldo was better than Messi at his age. He didn't really progress much though from there on.

He didnt need to progress at 19 he already was voted WPOTY and was the best player in the world. He was the most perfect and complete footballer I have ever seen. He could do anything, score free kicks, long rangers, tap ins one and ones, individual goals and was completely both footed, he even had the tricks of Ronaldinho. The only thing he couldnt do was maybe head the ball, but he could score 40 goals a season, without scoring a header.

If he hadnt got injured he would probably have gone down as the greatest player ever. He was that good.

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by TM Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:55 pm

How can you even compare the goals.

Maradona by a country mile.

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by Isco Benny Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:58 pm

Target Man wrote:How can you even compare the goals.

Maradona by a country mile.

Said as a true neutral

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by TM Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:00 pm

I Am Weasel wrote:

Target Man wrote:How can you even compare the goals.

Maradona by a country mile.

Said as a true neutral

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by Rez Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:00 pm

toon h wrote:

Rez wrote:

toon h wrote:I don't think Messi is the best player in the world at present. He is not yet the best player at Barça still. But I think that will change. Maybe not next season, even if he has contributed more than Ronaldinho whenever he has played, but definitely the season afterwards.

With regards to any other player currently gracing the world stage, he is more advanced than any other at that age was.

More than Brazil Ronaldo, I dont think so, as a Barca fan you must know how good Ronaldo was.

Also Rooney, I think at 19 was as good as Messi is at 19, but they are different players, Rooney couldnt do the stuff Messi did and Messi couldnt do the stuff Rooney did. Messi is destined for greatness and he I think he will definitely be WPOTY before he is 24.

Ronaldo was playing at PSV at 19 (well, in fact he just switched clubs at 19 years and 10 months which is what Messi is now).

I don't think Rooney is quite as good. What exactly does Rooney do that Messi can't apart from the physical side?

Can Messi score a thirty yard volley into the top corner, can he chip the goalkeeper from 30 yards. Messi is a way better dribbler, but Rooneys passing, shot technique and middle distance shooting is better. I think Messi will become the better player but at 19 Rooney was pretty special.

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by Axeslammer Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:01 pm

Rez wrote:

toon h wrote:OK, Rez, I admit it, Ronaldo was better than Messi at his age. He didn't really progress much though from there on.

He didnt need to progress at 19 he already was voted WPOTY and was the best player in the world. He was the most perfect and complete footballer I have ever seen. He could do anything, score free kicks, long rangers, tap ins one and ones, individual goals and was completely both footed, he even had the tricks of Ronaldinho. The only thing he couldnt do was maybe head the ball, but he could score 40 goals a season, without scoring a header.

If he hadnt got injured he would probably have gone down as the greatest player ever. He was that good.

?!

Romario was better, that's not even debatable.

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by Sgoater1 Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:01 pm

Its fucking amazing, the kid is so special...still he's notat Goater level yet.

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by Tweesus Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:03 pm

Atkinson>>Messi

Cos Messi could never score the goal that Akinson did against Getafe

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by Isco Benny Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:03 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:Its fucking amazing, the kid is so special.

Interesting you should say that, I always thought he was just ugly