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    Post by Kimbo Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:47 pm

    How would you like it if in Nigeria they had someone called "Dutch Akinbeyi", who painted himself Orange and wore a big comedy nose?
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    Post by Fey Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:51 pm

    I would laugh..
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:59 pm

    Well we all know black people have a different sense of humour, look at their comedians.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:37 pm

    cheers cheers cheers 

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2465904/Roy-Hodgson-told-attend-race-training-Society-Black-Lawyers-England-monkey-joke.html

    I think Fey should attend this training aswell.<Ale> 
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    Post by Fey Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:41 pm

    Such a thing excists? Race training...sounds like something from mein Kampf..

    Just saying.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:48 pm

    I hope he earns everyone's respect by telling the SOBL to get fucked. Bunch of idiots
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    Post by Cleetus Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:26 pm

    http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/13880/racist-revelation-plumbs-the-depths/

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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:12 am

    Cleetus wrote:http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/13880/racist-revelation-plumbs-the-depths/

    From the comments section:

    "7th paragraph, 4th line. Read the first letter of the sentence, and the two underneath it…"

    ?
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    Post by debaser Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:31 pm

    the comment above that makes a pretty good case that Lampard leaked it.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:55 pm

    Yeah I saw Lampard's name bring thrown around the other day. Sounds plausible.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:09 pm

    If it was Lampard then that rules out the possibility that the player was just naive about the press, his lot are very cosy with the tabloids. Hodgson will know who it was, if he picks them for his next squad then he's a big pussy. ok 
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:30 am

    Lampard is a snitch.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:49 am

    While Sven tells all, Hodgson endures reality check

    Posted by Rory Smith

    Of the three managerial autobiographies released this autumn, the Swede’s was the least eagerly anticipated. Harry Redknapp’s, we assumed, would be good-humoured, open and whimsical while Sir Alex Ferguson’s, we guessed, would bristle with rage and honesty and just a dash of good, old-fashioned spite.

    The idea of Eriksson’s recollections, by contrast, seemed a little grey. How wrong we all were. Presumably, at some point in "Sven: My Story," the former England manager deals with footballing matters, with the highs and lows of an illustrious career that took him from Sweden to Portugal, Italy, Mexico and Notts County.

    For now, though, Eriksson seems to have eschewed the traditional material for a footballing memoir and gone straight to the sex. Ferguson’s book may have been the recollections and forthright views of the game’s grand old knight, but Eriksson’s is the adventures of one of its premier swordsmen.

    There’s the story of how he seduced Nancy Dell’Olio away from her husband, regretted it, then tried to give her back. There’s the details of how he asked Faria Alam, a colleague at the Football Association, out to lunch and booked a hotel room, just to be on the safe side. There’s the casual mention of how his first marriage broke down “mainly” because he was having an affair with a dusky, Italian beauty.

    That’s not journalistic licence, by the way -- that just seems to be how Eriksson talks. His story is full of sultry this and curvy that. The way newspapers present kiss-and-tells always seemed forced, unnatural; nobody says “romping,” or declares to friends in the pub that they “bedded” someone last night. Sven does. Sven is probably the first person in history to read a kiss-and-tell about himself and just go, “Yep, that sounds about right. What’s the problem?”

    His autobiography appears to be one long attempt to detail quite how many notches he has on his bedpost. "Sven: My Story" is such a grey title, given the subject matter. He should have called it "50 Shades of Sven," or, in homage to Redknapp, "Always Managing (To Get My End Away)". It is unclear, from his reminiscences, quite when Eriksson found time to do any actual managing.

    So, all told, a good weekend for Sven-Goran Eriksson. And a bad weekend for the man who is both his successor and his polar opposite, Roy Hodgson.

    It is hard to imagine Hodgson’s memoir, whenever it is released, including the line, “There were lots of details about our lovemaking, but I did not mind” or, in a hardly unique moment of Russ Meyer-style raunchiness (with a soupcon of Alan Partridge), “Needless to say, we didn't eat very much.”

    It was a bad weekend for Hodgson because, in quick succession, the current England manager saw the following things happen: Joe Hart, his first-choice goalkeeper, was dropped to the bench by Manuel Pellegrini, the Manchester City manager. John Ruddy, one of Hart’s deputies, subsequently conceded seven goals in the same game.

    He saw Michael Carrick, apparently now his first-choice midfield player, miss Manchester United’s win at Fulham through injury, while Jack Wilshere and Glen Johnson suffered the same fate for Arsenal’s victory over Liverpool. Kieran Gibbs, a contender for a left-back berth, left that game an injury doubt, too.

    Steven Gerrard, meanwhile, Hodgson’s captain, was comprehensively outclassed at the Emirates by Mikel Arteta, a player who is not good enough to make it into Spain’s squad, let alone their first team.

    Frank Lampard, another cornerstone of Hodgson’s team, was informed by Jose Mourinho, the Chelsea manager, that his selection for the defeat at Newcastle was one of 11 mistakes the Portuguese had made.

    There is no mileage in suggesting that Hodgson’s resources are thin and that he can scarcely afford any injuries, loss of form or unexpected omissions to the core components of his side if England are to do anything noteworthy in Brazil.

    Fewer than a third of the players in the Premier League are eligible for the national side, while many of those who are eligible in Hodgson’s squad are aging. Gerrard, Lampard, Ashley Cole, Phil Jagielka, Johnson -- none are in the first flush of youth -- and a number of them are not first-choice selections for their clubs anyway. We know, and have for some time, that England’s national team is not in a state of rude health.

    This has been exacerbated, a little, by the closed nature of Hodgson’s squad. There are more players out there who have been in good form over the last year or so -- Adam Lallana, say, or Nathaniel Clyne, or even someone such as Jonny Howson -- but they have been consistently ignored. The England manager has willingly restricted his pool to the same 30 or so names. Even in friendlies, he has barely experimented with his team.

    There is a logic to that, of course -- it helps to familiarise the side, to make the pattern of play smoother, to improve understanding -- but it comes at a price. It is always a source of considerable frustration when Hodgson appears at Old Trafford to watch United play Chelsea. What can he learn about Carrick and Lampard that he does not already know?

    Shouldn't he be at Stoke against West Bromwich Albion to see if Saido Berahino or Ryan Shawcross warrant a call-up? No, he shouldn't, because he is not going to vary his selections. That is the way he works. It is understandable, but it is not flawless.

    Part of the problem, of course, is that England do not play friendlies, the games in which managers traditionally moved away from the tried and tested and gave inexperience a chance to prove itself. England play exhibition games instead, against Spain and Brazil and France and Germany -- though they do deserve some credit for selecting Chile for the first of this month’s games -- making it much harder for Hodgson to dare to be different.

    The effect, though, is serious. Hodgson is walking a tightrope. He cannot afford to see any of his players lose their form, their fitness or their place in the next seven months.

    And here is the final contrast with Eriksson. It is telling that, amid all of the affairs, romps and trysts that the Swede somehow fit into his career, he discusses many of the names who remain at the forefront of our minds when we think of the national team.

    Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Cole, and even John Terry and Rio Ferdinand are only out of the England team through their own volition. Twelve years on, we are still worrying about these players, still reliant on their good health and their form. That is testament to their longevity and to the dearth of talent emerging to dislodge them.

    That is Hodgson’s problem. Eriksson need not worry about it. If, indeed, he ever worried about it at all.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:50 pm

    Lallana and Rodriguez have been called up
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    Post by debaser Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:20 pm

    that's a good step. was hoping for Clyne and Delph too.

    also would've been good chance to try some other CBs. don't like that fact that Jones and Smalling are 3rd and 4th choice when neither play regularly at CB for Man Utd. Shawcross or Caulker should get a shot. and Michael Dawson probably too.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:31 pm

    Lampard still there, despite being the alleged snitch, and looking past it this season.
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    Post by debaser Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:40 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Lampard still there, despite being the alleged snitch, and looking past it this season.
    aye, there's really no need to call him up for these. surely should use the games to try other options in CM and give Lampard message that his place in squad isn't guaranteed unless he picks up form.

    hell if you're going to be regressive with your picks, Barry would be far more worthy of that spot, been v.good for Everton.
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    Post by Rosicky Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:16 pm

    Why the fuck is lampard captain?
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:42 pm

    Forster; Johnson, Jones, Cahill, Baines; Milner, Lampard, Wilshere; Rodriguez, Rooney, Lallana.


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    I'd rather Jones and Lampard weren't starting either. Lampard is passed it and Jones isn't living up to the hype, he seems quite a dumb player. I'd probably take the opportunity to play Shawcross and either Henderson or Barkley.
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:37 pm

    Jones was brilliant against Arsenal to be fair, had 42million pounds worth of German Turkish delight in his pocket.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:32 pm

    This 2nd half is a waste of time, it's just a succession of substitutions.

    My thoughts.

    1. Lallana was decent, I look forward to seeing him as an 85th minute sub in the future
    2. Milner shite
    3. We need Andy Carroll back fit
    4. Losing to a shit Swansea is embarrassing
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:50 pm

    Lambert will be fine in Carroll's absence.

    This has been shit.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:52 pm

    Jesus what an absolute mess.

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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:57 pm

    Roberto Baggio was not so amazing on his England debut.

    a bit worrying to lose to Chile like that, especially considering they were missing Vidal and Pizzaro.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:01 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Roberto Baggio was not so amazing on his England debut.

    a bit worrying to lose to Chile like that, especially considering they were missing Vidal and Pizzaro.
    I thought Lallana was good, but what can you do in such a disjointed team with no one that knows how to play as a striker? Chile had a dwarf midfielder Gary Medel playing as a CB and there was no one to take advatage.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:21 pm

    Gary Cahill had a 'mare. The guy is Rio Ferdinand mk.2 - just follows the ball and does not know how to position himself.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:38 pm

    I wish he was the next Rio, one of the few players that have turned up for tournaments in the past. I find it funny to see people calling for Terry to be recalled, as if now that he's approaching his mid 30s he's finally going to do it for England. Erm 
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:42 pm

    Cahill is no Ledley King, that's for sure.

    Losing was a blessing in disguise. The key to any kind of "success" in Brazil is we go in with absolutely no expectation or pressure to do well. With nothing to lose is, when England tend to do their best. Pre 1990 and 1996, the last two tournaments England did anything of real note in (admittedly with a lot more decent players) they were stumbling through build up friendlies and terrible form. Nobody gave them a cat's chance in hell. Ultimately, these build up friendlies mean almost fuck all, even if we'd have won this one, what would have been the chances of taking that form or team into the summer in 6months? Zero. The best way to enjoy England is to avoid having any hope or expectation from them for at least the next 5 years. That way they may pleasantly surprise us, like they did in the two crucial must win games when everyone had written them off, but then got their hopes up afterwards.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:43 pm

    Chile outplayed us on many levels noticeably on the ball skills and over 3 to five yards of movement player for player they blew us apart. These guys are small super quick off the mark and set up all there plays off dragging their opponent out of position.

    The defence was the biggest letdown and playing like this will kerb the hype I would give Gibbs and Walker a tryout if fit to play as for the CB's only God knows what to do there.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:36 pm

    Kimbo wrote:I wish he was the next Rio, one of the few players that have turned up for tournaments in the past. I find it funny to see people calling for Terry to be recalled, as if now that he's approaching his mid 30s he's finally going to do it for England. Erm 
    I actually can't remember the last Rio even played in a tournament.

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