zen and the art of wrote:Parks lives wrote:Only Chelsea could afford that.
Chelsea don't have Cisse to sweeten the deal
£27m-£33m is hardly out of the realms of possibility. It's what yous lot paid for Rooney, Veron, Rio et al.
nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:As Zen said though it isn't out of the realms of possibility. Its all about how much money Valencia would accept. Because the way I look at it - I think Villa is very tempted by Liverpool. He has friends their, would receive a higher wage and it would be a new challenge. I hope what ever is best for Valencia happens. I would say if over 30 million is offered - it would be best to sell. Otherwise - I would keep him.
Parks lives wrote:Thing is, Obi do you even know what your budget is?
zen and the art of wrote:EMP wrote:Sorry Zen, I thought you could reply in the middle of other people's replies by quotes. The bit below is my response.
Because Valencia doesn't have to sell unless it is in our interests to do so. We are not going to give him away just because Liverpool want him. It has to be in our interests to sell him. And that goes for anyone else interested in him as well. You might get him, but it will cost you ridiculous money. Just out of interest how much do you think it will cost you to get him?
I'm not disagreeing with any of that mate. Though, if the player wants to leave, there's very little you can actually do these days. As for the price? I don't believe the £40m+ talk. I'll take a stab in the dark at somewhere between £27m-£33m - not sure what that is in euros.
Maybe we could throw in Cisse to sweeten the deal
Parks lives wrote:Here's something that will cheer you up -
Liverpool will make a bid for Udinese's Italian World Cup-winning striker Vincenzo Iaquinta. (Daily Mirror)
I bet Pierre's creamed himself at the prospect of the Italian Andy Johnson tearing up the Premiership.
to be honest i already think valencia has the best squad in spain and one of the best in europe. they need a good passer in the middle like pizzaro from roma. and for that i dont think they need to sell. and more importantly if valencia sell they show a sign of weakness by selling their most important player.nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:EMP wrote:kas wrote:Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:Why can Luis not stand Barca?
Because we question Liverpool's entertainment value, I think..
Plus I laughed when he was talking about signing Eto'o and I explained that Liverpool isn't really seen as a massive club in Spain. More like England's answer to Atlético, with an added sprinkling of Spanish influence.. Burst his bubble..
He still firmly believes Liverpool will sign one of Etoo or Villa this summer. Not saying it can't happen (and I'm only referring to Villa here) but that's quite a dream.Villa is not for sale unless extremely stupid money is offered, or we collapse so badly that we don't get European football next season. I believe he has signed a contract extension that involves a huge buy-out clause. Why should we sell him unless it makes sense for us? Not even Carboni is stupid enoiugh to sell a great player for less than he is worth.
Say if 30-40 million was offered. Surely that would be tempting. It would allow you to build a squad that could compete with any side in Europe if in the right hands, ie: the hands of Flores not Carboni....
EMP wrote:zen and the art of wrote:EMP wrote:Sorry Zen, I thought you could reply in the middle of other people's replies by quotes. The bit below is my response.
Because Valencia doesn't have to sell unless it is in our interests to do so. We are not going to give him away just because Liverpool want him. It has to be in our interests to sell him. And that goes for anyone else interested in him as well. You might get him, but it will cost you ridiculous money. Just out of interest how much do you think it will cost you to get him?
I'm not disagreeing with any of that mate. Though, if the player wants to leave, there's very little you can actually do these days. As for the price? I don't believe the £40m+ talk. I'll take a stab in the dark at somewhere between £27m-£33m - not sure what that is in euros.
Maybe we could throw in Cisse to sweeten the deal
Even if Villa wants to leave we can still hold out for a fair evaluation. We gave you Aurelio for free, Sissoko for way below his worth - Quique's fault - and you got Benitez for free. We are nice people, but there are limits to our charity.
I can see it makes sense for Liverpool. Even Villa may entertain the idea, but if he goes we have to get his worth. I think he has a long contract, so we can afford to play a waiting game with him. He threw a massive strop earlier with Quique, but Quique won in the end. If he only had a year to go, I can understand it, but I'm pretty sure he signed an extension earlier with a huge buy-out clause. Don't forget that we know that you have new investment come in. We can afford to wait until your offer meets ours expectations of his worth. We can afford to wait it out with him for an offer of £40m+. We do tend to get talented youngsters pretty cheap. Look at David Silva. On loan last season - Spanish international this. We can wait for an offer we like. Does your offer of Cisse come with compensation for us taking him?
dont even think of it. valencia would do anything they can to avoid selling to us even if it means ignoring a bid from us that is 10mil+ more then others. i truly believe that it would be impossible for us to sign him with a bid under 40mil.Jaime wrote:If Villa can be had for 35m. euro we should be in with an offer.
nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:EMP wrote:kas wrote:Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:Why can Luis not stand Barca?
Because we question Liverpool's entertainment value, I think..
Plus I laughed when he was talking about signing Eto'o and I explained that Liverpool isn't really seen as a massive club in Spain. More like England's answer to Atlético, with an added sprinkling of Spanish influence.. Burst his bubble..
He still firmly believes Liverpool will sign one of Etoo or Villa this summer. Not saying it can't happen (and I'm only referring to Villa here) but that's quite a dream.
But that is the problem. Transfers are negotiated by Technical Directors in Spain. Carboni, not Quique decides how the money is spent. Aimar was sold to some extent behind Quique's back and the Ayala fiasco the same. Quique even had to call a press conference to sabotage a transfer Carboni was negotiating last summer and the transfer of Tavano was clearly not one that Quique wanted. If transfers done were the ones the coach wanted then okay, but you can't trust Carboni not get some Italian talewnt that is not part of the coach's plans. Better keep Villa than let Carboni waste £40m.
Say if 30-40 million was offered. Surely that would be tempting. It would allow you to build a squad that could compete with any side in Europe if in the right hands, ie: the hands of Flores not Carboni....
EMP wrote:Sorry did it again.
@nCFC - Cadiz. But that is the problem. Transfers are negotiated by Technical Directors in Spain. Carboni, not Quique decides how the money is spent. Aimar was sold to some extent behind Quique's back and the Ayala fiasco the same. Quique even had to call a press conference to sabotage a transfer Carboni was negotiating last summer and the transfer of Tavano was clearly not one that Quique wanted. If transfers done were the ones the coach wanted then okay, but you can't trust Carboni not get some Italian talewnt that is not part of the coach's plans. Better keep Villa than let Carboni waste £40m.
supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:dont even think of it. valencia would do anything they can to avoid selling to us even if it means ignoring a bid from us that is 10mil+ more then others. i truly believe that it would be impossible for us to sign him with a bid under 40mil.Jaime wrote:If Villa can be had for 35m. euro we should be in with an offer.
zen and the art of wrote:EMP wrote:zen and the art of wrote:EMP wrote:Sorry Zen, I thought you could reply in the middle of other people's replies by quotes. The bit below is my response.
Because Valencia doesn't have to sell unless it is in our interests to do so. We are not going to give him away just because Liverpool want him. It has to be in our interests to sell him. And that goes for anyone else interested in him as well. You might get him, but it will cost you ridiculous money. Just out of interest how much do you think it will cost you to get him?
I'm not disagreeing with any of that mate. Though, if the player wants to leave, there's very little you can actually do these days. As for the price? I don't believe the £40m+ talk. I'll take a stab in the dark at somewhere between £27m-£33m - not sure what that is in euros.
Maybe we could throw in Cisse to sweeten the deal
Even if Villa wants to leave we can still hold out for a fair evaluation. We gave you Aurelio for free, Sissoko for way below his worth - Quique's fault - and you got Benitez for free. We are nice people, but there are limits to our charity.
I can see it makes sense for Liverpool. Even Villa may entertain the idea, but if he goes we have to get his worth. I think he has a long contract, so we can afford to play a waiting game with him. He threw a massive strop earlier with Quique, but Quique won in the end. If he only had a year to go, I can understand it, but I'm pretty sure he signed an extension earlier with a huge buy-out clause. Don't forget that we know that you have new investment come in. We can afford to wait until your offer meets ours expectations of his worth. We can afford to wait it out with him for an offer of £40m+. We do tend to get talented youngsters pretty cheap. Look at David Silva. On loan last season - Spanish international this. We can wait for an offer we like. Does your offer of Cisse come with compensation for us taking him?
All fair points. I can't see us paying the £40+ though. It's the same thing before every transfer window. Clubs put ridiculous price tags on players but never follow through. Designed purely to scare off suitors but it never does.
Your youth system is exceptional, but not without it's flaws. Gavilan had as many assists as Ronaldinho last season and he's 3rd choice for your left wing this.
As far as Cisse is concerned... No compensation I'm afraid, but we'll pay for his trips to the barber
supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:to be honest i already think valencia has the best squad in spain and one of the best in europe. they need a good passer in the middle like pizzaro from roma. and for that i dont think they need to sell. and more importantly if valencia sell they show a sign of weakness by selling their most important player.nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:EMP wrote:kas wrote:Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:Why can Luis not stand Barca?
Because we question Liverpool's entertainment value, I think..
Plus I laughed when he was talking about signing Eto'o and I explained that Liverpool isn't really seen as a massive club in Spain. More like England's answer to Atlético, with an added sprinkling of Spanish influence.. Burst his bubble..
He still firmly believes Liverpool will sign one of Etoo or Villa this summer. Not saying it can't happen (and I'm only referring to Villa here) but that's quite a dream.
Say if 30-40 million was offered. Surely that would be tempting. It would allow you to build a squad that could compete with any side in Europe if in the right hands, ie: the hands of Flores not Carboni....
nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:EMP wrote:Sorry did it again.
@nCFC - Cadiz. But that is the problem. Transfers are negotiated by Technical Directors in Spain. Carboni, not Quique decides how the money is spent. Aimar was sold to some extent behind Quique's back and the Ayala fiasco the same. Quique even had to call a press conference to sabotage a transfer Carboni was negotiating last summer and the transfer of Tavano was clearly not one that Quique wanted. If transfers done were the ones the coach wanted then okay, but you can't trust Carboni not get some Italian talewnt that is not part of the coach's plans. Better keep Villa than let Carboni waste £40m.
I suppose. Carboni was a great servant to Valencia - so logic would say that he would sign the players that are best for the football club - which seems to be the opposite to what is happening. At least I hope Flores gets the chance in the next couple of seasons, but I think if the politics drag on Villa could eventually want out?
La Saeta Rubia wrote:I wouldnt be so sure that Villa isn't for sale, apparently Valencia are very interested in Luis Garcia from Espanyol and considering paying his contract clause 12m euros as a replacement.
Rumours also flying around that Valencia want to buy back Ayala from Villarreal for 6m euros !
EMP wrote:€40m is not enough. That isn't even £30m. Even Obi was offering more than that!
La Saeta Rubia wrote:I wouldnt be so sure that Villa isn't for sale, apparently Valencia are very interested in Luis Garcia from Espanyol and considering paying his contract clause 12m euros as a replacement.
Rumours also flying around that Valencia want to buy back Ayala from Villarreal for 6m euros !
Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:EMP wrote:€40m is not enough. That isn't even £30m. Even Obi was offering more than that!
Then you have effectively priced him out of the market.. Good for you!!
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