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Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
TM- Number of posts : 21218
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- Post n°271
Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Never!
Jaime- Number of posts : 32027
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
T.I.P. wrote:Solari for Cassano Swap deal !!!
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/1020768.html
Wow, that would be fantastic. Solari was always a favorite at the Bernabeu and his attitude on and off the pitch would be great.
Torrente- Number of posts : 5489
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Are you kidding me? Another left-footed player?
The last thing we need is Solari. I admit I like the guy a lot but he's a decent sub and that's about it. He's old now and he barely played for Inter in his time there.
The last thing we need is Solari. I admit I like the guy a lot but he's a decent sub and that's about it. He's old now and he barely played for Inter in his time there.
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- Post n°274
Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
How old is he? Anyhow, currently we only have one left-sided player (unless you count Robinho) and that is Adrian Gonzalez.
Torrente- Number of posts : 5489
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Jaime wrote:How old is he? Anyhow, currently we only have one left-sided player (unless you count Robinho) and that is Adrian Gonzalez.
Solari's almost 31. He would be a useless addition to the squad, sentimentality apart.
But remember that 3 of our present targets are Reyes, Robben, and Drenthe. I think we will get at least 2 of those. It's also safe to assume that Gonzales is nearly certain to be loaned out this season but even then we have enough players who can play on the left.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Wow -- I didn't think he was that old already. You're right though, if we get two from the trio of zurdos that you mention we don't need Solari.
Torrente- Number of posts : 5489
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
What we should be worried about is our right wing. All of a sudden we seem to be having a left wing overload while we have no one for the right wing. Robinho plays better on the left and I'm not convinced about how well Cicinho would do there.
If only Calderon and Mijatovic had a brain they would forget about Robben and use that money for Quaresma. I really can't remember another time when a potential signing was so obvious and we still didn't make him a target. Calderon recently said that with Robben, Drenthe, and Reyes, the squad would be set for next season. This really worries me to be honest.
If only Calderon and Mijatovic had a brain they would forget about Robben and use that money for Quaresma. I really can't remember another time when a potential signing was so obvious and we still didn't make him a target. Calderon recently said that with Robben, Drenthe, and Reyes, the squad would be set for next season. This really worries me to be honest.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Personally, I don't think that Robinho is necessarily better on the left. I think he is more predictable on the left side and, particularly in his first season, he had some very good performances playing on the right.
Cicinho is not an option IMO. He is not very good when he has to play with his back facing the goal. He is really only affective when he can attack going forward.
Robben is equally adept on the left and right...plus, from the looks of things, Schuster is comfortable using Higuain on the right.
Cicinho is not an option IMO. He is not very good when he has to play with his back facing the goal. He is really only affective when he can attack going forward.
Robben is equally adept on the left and right...plus, from the looks of things, Schuster is comfortable using Higuain on the right.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Solari eh? That's hilarious if true. Ans Jaime is right, Robben can play on any side, in fact when he started for Chelsea he started on the right with Duff on the left.
Torrente- Number of posts : 5489
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
@Jaime
I think Robinho is better on the left because his favorite dribbling move is to cut outside with his right foot. On the left this leaves him with a shot on goal or the opportunity to make a through ball.
With Robben, I just don't like players that are so one-footed to play on the opposite wing. I think that if we buy Robben he should always be played on the left unless we have injuries. To me, our ideal formation would be this if we swapped our targets a bit:
.......................................................Casillas.........................................
.......Ramos/Cicinho............Metzwelder..........Cannavaro/Pepe........Torres...
..................................................Diarra...............................................
............................................................Gago....................................
.........Quaresma...................Higuain/Robinho.............Robinho/Reyes.............
..............................................Ruud.............................................
So I really think we should buy Reyes and Quaresma and forget about Robben. This way we would have a more complete squad since we could cover more positions.
I think Robinho is better on the left because his favorite dribbling move is to cut outside with his right foot. On the left this leaves him with a shot on goal or the opportunity to make a through ball.
With Robben, I just don't like players that are so one-footed to play on the opposite wing. I think that if we buy Robben he should always be played on the left unless we have injuries. To me, our ideal formation would be this if we swapped our targets a bit:
.......................................................Casillas.........................................
.......Ramos/Cicinho............Metzwelder..........Cannavaro/Pepe........Torres...
..................................................Diarra...............................................
............................................................Gago....................................
.........Quaresma...................Higuain/Robinho.............Robinho/Reyes.............
..............................................Ruud.............................................
So I really think we should buy Reyes and Quaresma and forget about Robben. This way we would have a more complete squad since we could cover more positions.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
@Torrente
I know what you mean about Robinho, I just think when he plays on the left he becomes to reliant on this move and then it can become very predictable.
I would be more than happy with your proposed lineup but I think Robben on the right (or Robinho on the right and Robben on the left) would be just as good.
I do really want us to sign Reyes though...
I know what you mean about Robinho, I just think when he plays on the left he becomes to reliant on this move and then it can become very predictable.
I would be more than happy with your proposed lineup but I think Robben on the right (or Robinho on the right and Robben on the left) would be just as good.
I do really want us to sign Reyes though...
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
also i dont think porto want to sell quaresma
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Schuster, preocupado por el lateral izquierdo... y Marcelo, en la playa
JULIÁN ÁVILA/IRDNING(AUSTRIA)
Schuster está muy contento con el comportamiento de sus jugadores en la pretemporada. La respuesta está siendo de nota alta habida cuenta de la competencia que hay en la plantilla. Sin embargo, está algo más inquieto con las contrataciones que no acaban de concretarse. Las negociaciones por Robben con el Chelsea pueden cerrarse en breve o alargarse hasta el cierre del mercado y algo parecido ocurre con Drenthe y Reyes, mientras se trabaja a hurtadillas para intentar fichar a un «crack». Pero lo que más le preocupa es el boquete que tiene en el lateral izquierdo.
En la actual plantilla sólo hay un futbolista específico para jugar en ese puesto. Es Marcelo, un joven brasileño fichado en el pasado mercado de invierno a bombo y platillo por unos 12 millones como el recambio de Roberto Carlos. Un fichaje que no ha cuajado como se esperaba porque se incorporó en diciembre pasado, cuando el club se encontraba sumido en un momento delicado de juego y de resultados.
No aceptó jugar en Segunda
Capello no contó con él y su papel fue muy similar al de un amuleto. El italiano citaba a 19 jugadores y él siempre era el descartado porque daba suerte. En esos seis meses jugó de manera testimonial. Debutó en Riazor, ante el Deportivo (34 minutos) y luego acumuló 16 minutos ante el Betis, 14 contra el Atlético, tres frente al Getafe y 12 ante el Gimnástico. Sólo jugó un partido completo, en Santander, el único que perdió el Real Madrid en la espectacular recta final de la Liga.
Por su inexperiencia en Europa se sopesó la idea de que reforzase al Castilla en Segunda, lo que le serviría para conocer y adaptarse al fútbol español. Su representante se negó en rotundo y lo único que consiguió fue frenar la progresión y crear dentro del club un clima de desconfianza. También se pensó en una cesión a otro equipo de Primera.
Ahora Schuster está a los mandos y parece que Marcelo acepta ese papel secundario. El brasileño ha decidido tomarse sus vacaciones después de jugar el Mundial sub 20 en lugar de incorporarse enseguida para hacer la pretemporada y tratar de convencer al técnico alemán. Le asiste el derecho de descansar, pero parece más lógica la postura que han adoptado los Granero, Adrián y Bueno, que también han participado en el mismo torneo y están en Austria sudando la gota gorda para que Schuster tome buena nota de cara al futuro. Además, Brasil cayó eliminada ante España el 11 de julio y la pretemporada arrancó el 21 del mismo mes. No es un hecho aislado el de los chavales. Agüero y Forlán están con el Atlético; Mata y Sunny, con el Valencia, y Giovani dos Santos con el Barcelona.
Los técnicos, disgustados con él
La decisión de no presentarse no ha caído bien en la dirección deportiva del club. Les hubiese gustado un gesto de compromiso y de profesional en un momento tan decisivo para confeccionar la plantilla. Ya no están Roberto Carlos ni Raúl Bravo y Torres, un diestro reconvertido a zurdo, sigue recuperándose de una lesión. De hecho, Cicinho, otro diestro, tuvo que ocupar el costado izquierdo en el primer ejercicio táctico que hizo Schuster.
Marcelo está dejando pasar su oportunidad para hacerse con un hueco en el once porque Drenthe, si cuaja el fichaje, está obligado a demostrar que reúne las condiciones para ser el titular en el Madrid y Torres arrastra el handicap de ser diestro. Pese a todo, éste último cuenta con muchas papeletas para empezar en el once.
http://www.abc.es/20070726/deportes-futbol/schuster-preocupado-lateral-izquierdo_200707260250.html
JULIÁN ÁVILA/IRDNING(AUSTRIA)
Schuster está muy contento con el comportamiento de sus jugadores en la pretemporada. La respuesta está siendo de nota alta habida cuenta de la competencia que hay en la plantilla. Sin embargo, está algo más inquieto con las contrataciones que no acaban de concretarse. Las negociaciones por Robben con el Chelsea pueden cerrarse en breve o alargarse hasta el cierre del mercado y algo parecido ocurre con Drenthe y Reyes, mientras se trabaja a hurtadillas para intentar fichar a un «crack». Pero lo que más le preocupa es el boquete que tiene en el lateral izquierdo.
En la actual plantilla sólo hay un futbolista específico para jugar en ese puesto. Es Marcelo, un joven brasileño fichado en el pasado mercado de invierno a bombo y platillo por unos 12 millones como el recambio de Roberto Carlos. Un fichaje que no ha cuajado como se esperaba porque se incorporó en diciembre pasado, cuando el club se encontraba sumido en un momento delicado de juego y de resultados.
No aceptó jugar en Segunda
Capello no contó con él y su papel fue muy similar al de un amuleto. El italiano citaba a 19 jugadores y él siempre era el descartado porque daba suerte. En esos seis meses jugó de manera testimonial. Debutó en Riazor, ante el Deportivo (34 minutos) y luego acumuló 16 minutos ante el Betis, 14 contra el Atlético, tres frente al Getafe y 12 ante el Gimnástico. Sólo jugó un partido completo, en Santander, el único que perdió el Real Madrid en la espectacular recta final de la Liga.
Por su inexperiencia en Europa se sopesó la idea de que reforzase al Castilla en Segunda, lo que le serviría para conocer y adaptarse al fútbol español. Su representante se negó en rotundo y lo único que consiguió fue frenar la progresión y crear dentro del club un clima de desconfianza. También se pensó en una cesión a otro equipo de Primera.
Ahora Schuster está a los mandos y parece que Marcelo acepta ese papel secundario. El brasileño ha decidido tomarse sus vacaciones después de jugar el Mundial sub 20 en lugar de incorporarse enseguida para hacer la pretemporada y tratar de convencer al técnico alemán. Le asiste el derecho de descansar, pero parece más lógica la postura que han adoptado los Granero, Adrián y Bueno, que también han participado en el mismo torneo y están en Austria sudando la gota gorda para que Schuster tome buena nota de cara al futuro. Además, Brasil cayó eliminada ante España el 11 de julio y la pretemporada arrancó el 21 del mismo mes. No es un hecho aislado el de los chavales. Agüero y Forlán están con el Atlético; Mata y Sunny, con el Valencia, y Giovani dos Santos con el Barcelona.
Los técnicos, disgustados con él
La decisión de no presentarse no ha caído bien en la dirección deportiva del club. Les hubiese gustado un gesto de compromiso y de profesional en un momento tan decisivo para confeccionar la plantilla. Ya no están Roberto Carlos ni Raúl Bravo y Torres, un diestro reconvertido a zurdo, sigue recuperándose de una lesión. De hecho, Cicinho, otro diestro, tuvo que ocupar el costado izquierdo en el primer ejercicio táctico que hizo Schuster.
Marcelo está dejando pasar su oportunidad para hacerse con un hueco en el once porque Drenthe, si cuaja el fichaje, está obligado a demostrar que reúne las condiciones para ser el titular en el Madrid y Torres arrastra el handicap de ser diestro. Pese a todo, éste último cuenta con muchas papeletas para empezar en el once.
http://www.abc.es/20070726/deportes-futbol/schuster-preocupado-lateral-izquierdo_200707260250.html
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
So not only is he $h!t at football, his attitude is $h!t too
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- Post n°285
Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
kas wrote:
So not only is he $h!t at football, his attitude is $h!t too
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
kas wrote:
So not only is he $h!t at football, his attitude is $h!t too
I know, what a disaster...and a waste of €7m!
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Pfft, just build a public toilet or something, ask the government to rezone, then sell it for 8 million. Problem solved the Madrid way
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
kas wrote:Pfft, just build a public toilet or something, ask the government to rezone, then sell it for 8 million. Problem solved the Madrid way
A public toilet would probably get us closer to 15 m. but I like the way you think...
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
our left back position really has me worried and we sold the best left back of the past century to olympiakos
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Miguel Torres will be just fine. I'd prefer him 100x to Marcelo, Drenthe, the old Roberto Carlos, or RB.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Jaime wrote:Miguel Torres will be just fine. I'd prefer him 100x to Marcelo, Drenthe, the old Roberto Carlos, or RB.
i mean as a starter he will do fine, but if he is injured than what? hopefully pepe would get a crack at lb (he said he wouldnt mind playing fullback) before marcelo
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Real should buy Robben, he is an really good player. but is injuried a lot.
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we are trying to but, low and behold he is injuried
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So you should sign him now, that way he'll pass his medical
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
first friendly tomorrow
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
Supposedly Milan are offering €17m. for Julio Baptista. I think we should take the money and run. If we hadn't signed Saviola I would have been happy to give him another change but we just have too many players in that position.
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Funny how i said we would sell for 17 last week, hmm Calderon y co must read this board
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
What Ze German has been up to in training...
BLUE TEAM: Codina; Ramos, Pepe, Metzelder, Torres; Balboa, Guti, Diarra, Bueno; Granero, and Raúl.
ORANGE TEAM: Dudek; Salgado, Cannavaro, Jordi García, Cicinho; Higuaín, De la Red, Emerson, Adrián; Saviola and Soldado.
I'd imagine the Blue team played a 4-5-1 and Orange team played 4-4-2.
The German coach may divide his squad in two and play two teams, although some players will have to play more minutes than others being that not all of the 23 men who traveled to Austria are fit to dress. Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Iker Casillas, and Roberto Soldado will watch from the sideline.
Míchel Salgado has recovered from a strained left calf and will be able to see action. Miguel Torres, however, will be a last-minute decision due to a niggled hamstring. With Marcelo, Gago, and Baptista still absent -with the Club's permission-, the left wing will be a vulernable point for the team. Schuster has changed Cicinho over to the left-back position during training and will most likely keep him there this evening.
BLUE TEAM: Codina; Ramos, Pepe, Metzelder, Torres; Balboa, Guti, Diarra, Bueno; Granero, and Raúl.
ORANGE TEAM: Dudek; Salgado, Cannavaro, Jordi García, Cicinho; Higuaín, De la Red, Emerson, Adrián; Saviola and Soldado.
I'd imagine the Blue team played a 4-5-1 and Orange team played 4-4-2.
The German coach may divide his squad in two and play two teams, although some players will have to play more minutes than others being that not all of the 23 men who traveled to Austria are fit to dress. Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Iker Casillas, and Roberto Soldado will watch from the sideline.
Míchel Salgado has recovered from a strained left calf and will be able to see action. Miguel Torres, however, will be a last-minute decision due to a niggled hamstring. With Marcelo, Gago, and Baptista still absent -with the Club's permission-, the left wing will be a vulernable point for the team. Schuster has changed Cicinho over to the left-back position during training and will most likely keep him there this evening.
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Re: Real Madrid C.F. 2007/08
I do think Quaresma would be the obvious signing for Real. He is a fantastic winger that will add another dimension to the team. He is a showman who will excite the fans and dazzle defences.
With Quaresma and Robinho you guys would be good to watch again.
Have you even been linked with him, because all the interest to date has come from your neighbours; Atletico.
With Quaresma and Robinho you guys would be good to watch again.
Have you even been linked with him, because all the interest to date has come from your neighbours; Atletico.
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Well they're has been stories we're looking at him in various Spainsh papers and some Rumours that the 20Million Pound deal involving Pepe has something to do with a possible deal with RQ.
It's quite an obvious signing, we don't have a natural RM, and RQ could play they're him and Robinho could switch during the game and once again make us exicting to watch
So far the board doesn't look they will buy him, fools. Hopefully they suprise all of us and sign him.
We also need a LB, hell i'd even sign Heinze at this point - at cut price ofcourse
Drenthe deal looks off, he said in Marca he doesn't want to play LB and would only play there if a team mate is injuried and had to fill in for a game or two.
It's quite an obvious signing, we don't have a natural RM, and RQ could play they're him and Robinho could switch during the game and once again make us exicting to watch
So far the board doesn't look they will buy him, fools. Hopefully they suprise all of us and sign him.
We also need a LB, hell i'd even sign Heinze at this point - at cut price ofcourse
Drenthe deal looks off, he said in Marca he doesn't want to play LB and would only play there if a team mate is injuried and had to fill in for a game or two.
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