Under 21 World XI

I think we might have done this last year at some point, but things change a lot when players are this young. Try and pick an XI of 21 or under that you regard as the best in their position in the world within that age bracket.

FYI, Rooney is still 21 until October 5th

My squad:

------------------------Akinfeev(21)----------------

Richards(19)--Zapata(20)--Ramos(21)--Bale(18.)

Messi(20)---Fabregas(20)--Veloso(21)--N'Zogbia(21)

----------------Rooney(21)--Benzema(20)-------------

AGUERO >>>>>>>>> Rooney

Kroos shouldn't be far away either

Kroos?

He's only played about three games as a sub!!!

And Aguero hasn't done anywhere near as much as Rooney - hasn't scored as many goals, hasn't had an impact at a major international tournament, hasn't scored important CL goals against top class teams. Rooney>>>Aguero

Tweedle wrote:Kroos?

He's only played about three games as a sub!!!

And Aguero hasn't done anywhere near as much as Rooney - hasn't scored as many goals, hasn't had an impact at a major international tournament, hasn't scored important CL goals against top class teams. Rooney>>>Aguero

player of the u-20 WC, and rooney's big hit was euro 04, imho his career is stalling at the present time, his rate of progress is v worrying from a man utd and england perspective. SAF didn't want to buy him when he did but his hand was forced by newcastle he'd have benefitted from another couple of years with less pressure from playing for such a big club.

AND FFS how can you leave Messi OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tweedle wrote:I think we might have done this last year at some point, but things change a lot when players are this young. Try and pick an XI of 21 or under that you regard as the best in their position in the world within that age bracket.

FYI, Rooney is still 21 until October 5th

My squad:

------------------------Akinfeev(21)----------------

Richards(19)--Zapata(20)--Ramos(21)--Bale(18.)

Messi(20)---Fabregas(20)--Veloso(21)--N'Zogbia(21)

----------------Rooney(21)--Benzema(20)-------------

Decent team Tweeds. Though I've seen very little of Benzema so I'd have Aguero. I'd also have David Silva over N'Zogbia.

Also who's Zapata?

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Zapata is a Colombian centre-back at Udinese

I forgot my team

----------------Akinfeev
Kompany--da Costa--Ramos--Jansen
------------Cesc--Veloso---------
-----Messi------------------Silva
----------Rooney---Aguero------

I had Richards in, but I don't think he's performed for long enough to be considered.

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:Kroos?

player of the u-20 WC, and rooney's big hit was euro 04, imho his career is stalling at the present time, his rate of progress is v worrying from a man utd and england perspective. SAF didn't want to buy him when he did but his hand was forced by newcastle he'd have benefitted from another couple of years with less pressure from playing for such a big club.

What are you on about? He's only stalled for England. For Utd he gets better year on year. Last year he was supposed to have had an off season but he still got his highest goals total of his career! Saying that 17 year old Kroos who's played under 5 games is better than him is BEYOND laughable!

AND FFS how can you leave Messi OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also bemusing. He's on my right wing

Messi is no right winger, he shouldbe up front way ahead of rooney. he has stalled like it, admit it or NOT he has not turned out to be as good as anybody was suggesting 4 years ago he wont ever make it into a world XI on current progress.

Tweedle wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:Kroos?

player of the u-20 WC, and rooney's big hit was euro 04, imho his career is stalling at the present time, his rate of progress is v worrying from a man utd and england perspective. SAF didn't want to buy him when he did but his hand was forced by newcastle he'd have benefitted from another couple of years with less pressure from playing for such a big club.

What are you on about? He's only stalled for England. For Utd he gets better year on year. Last year he was supposed to have had an off season but he still got his highest goals total of his career! Saying that 17 year old Kroos who's played under 5 games is better than him is BEYOND laughable!

AND FFS how can you leave Messi OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also bemusing. He's on my right wing

I'm of the impression that Rooney has stagnated to tbh. I've been saying that for a couple of years now. I think he is a fantastic players, and one of the best in his age group (hence his inclusion in my team) but I do not think he will get any better.

------------------------Akinfeev----------------

Richards--Ramos--Kompany--Bale

-- Fabregas--Pato--Drenthe
Messi--

----------------Aguero--Rossi----------


I don't count Rooney, have no idea if the keeper is any good or not.

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:Messi is no right winger, he shouldbe up front way ahead of rooney. he has stalled like it, admit it or NOT he has not turned out to be as good as anybody was suggesting 4 years ago he wont ever make it into a world XI on current progress.

Can you find anymore players to be in front of Rooney?

He's shined at a major International tournament, won a league title scoring 15 goals and 15 assists plus.

Walcott

Akinfeev is brilliant

@ calidad/Frank

--------Pld--Ssc-Asst
2002/3---33---6----4
2003/4---34---9----4
2004/5---29---11---3
2005/6---35---16---9
2006/7---35---14---11

So he may have stalled a bit last season but the evidence is there that year on year he is becoming a more and more effective player.

He also managed 4 goals in the knockouts of the CL last season

stats prove nothing much tweeds prefer to judge him on actual viewing him at work on tv (don't go much on watching man u live to often)

Arsenal fans and stats

So does that mean because Ronaldinho had his best ever tally for Barcelona last season, it was also his best season since joining the club? Stats don't tell the whole story.

Regarding my XI Fernandes, Richards, Affelay & Aissati also deserve honourable mentions.

I'd mention Gourcuff but he hardly ever plays...

Raul Garcia for CM too
and cough am i saying this Miguel Torres at RB, Richards CM leave out Sergio Ramos he's been v average over the last 12 months imho

How old is huntelaar? I wouldn't include him ahead of Rossi or Aguero anyway, but just wondering

Tweedle wrote:Akinfeev is brilliant

@ calidad/Frank

--------Pld--Ssc-Asst
2002/3---33---6----4
2003/4---34---9----4
2004/5---29---11---3
2005/6---35---16---9
2006/7---35---14---11

So he may have stalled a bit last season but the evidence is there that year on year he is becoming a more and more effective player.

He also managed 4 goals in the knockouts of the CL last season

The second half of last season he was excellent. The best he's played so far in his career. Not so much the moments of genius he had at the start but consistely excellent and scoring vital goals on top of making goals.

Its not really worth mentioning Gourcuff. He moved to early IMO.

Rooney had his best season to date in the CL. In the league he didn't start to well but I think he struggled having to play through an injury at the world cup. Later on in the season he got better and better

L r d wrote:How old is huntelaar? I wouldn't include him ahead of Rossi or Aguero anyway, but just wondering

24 years old.

L r d wrote:How old is huntelaar? I wouldn't include him ahead of Rossi or Aguero anyway, but just wondering

24

David Silva of Valencia is well worth a palce too, poss their best player last season

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:Raul Garcia for CM too
and cough am i saying this Miguel Torres at RB, Richards CM leave out Sergio Ramos he's been v average over the last 12 months imho

I'm almost tempted to drop Veloso for Raul Garcia actually. I'm not moving Richards to CM. Ramos hasn't been v. v. average. He's been v. v. good!

tweeds ffs you hardly ever watch spanish footy its obvious by what you post on. Miguel Torres was way better overall than Ramos last season

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:tweeds ffs you hardly ever watch spanish footy its obvious by what you post on. Miguel Torres was way better overall than Ramos last season

He's also put N'Zogbia in his team! Jesus Christ, I must be seriously missing something about that kid- he's good, better than I imagined at first, but in a World U 21 team?