Under 21 World XI

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:thats why mourinho hasn't been playing him, he is still inconsistant, just poss players better more foten yes its got better but he still has some very good days and some very very poor games. improvement doesn't mean good, just better

Tweedle wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:thats why mourinho hasn't been playing him, he is still inconsistant, just poss players better more foten yes its got better but he still has some very good days and some very very poor games. improvement doesn't mean good, just better

Mourinho wasn't playing him because he was injured.

Rez wrote:

Calidad wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:tweeds i see there was a big article in the express today supporting exactly what i said about rooney yesterday

They were also talking about it on the Sunday Supplement. First I've ever heard the media mention it. I've been saying it as well for a year or two not. It's not necessarily going to be the case, but I like you think we have seen his best. They were saying it will be a big season for him.

but I believe this season he will prove; he is as good as, or even better than, Ronaldo.

Rez wrote:

bluenine wrote:He is new "totti" only play-wise, thankfully. Unfortuinately owned by Juve, playing at empoli on loan this season... they might as well give him a shot, not like their players are doing anything better... Giovinco looks like the real deal, watch out for that name.

I hope Giovinco and Acquafresca get more playing time in Serie A this season.

Rez wrote:Never heard of Giovinco, but if he is the 'Totti' of the new generation, I expect to hear about him spitting on people, slagging of English teams and then choking against them

I will look out for him, although I dont think they will ever show Empoli on channel 5.



Where does Aquafresh play, who does he play for and does he have the shiny white teeth to live up to his name?

Rez wrote:
Rooney was fantastic against Milan, the media hype was around Kaka and Ronaldo and in the end he stole the limelight from both of them.

bluenine wrote:I really like Rooney, but that statement is just incorrect... Rooney did not have a better semi final than Kaka.

Rez wrote:
Rooney was fantastic against Milan, the media hype was around Kaka and Ronaldo and in the end he stole the limelight from both of them.

bluenine wrote:I really like Rooney, but that statement is just incorrect... Rooney did not have a better semi final than Kaka.

I think the problem is that you guys just expect too much out of him... why are you comparing him with Kaka?? Rooney is a great young player, but if you hype him too much them it will only make him look like he is under achieving... thats what happened with beckham before, he was always very good, just that thye media hyped him so much with the comparisons with Zidane that he looked like a failure. Beckham was never a failure, he was a world class player IMO. But he was no Zidane.

Rooney could improve to become one of the best players in the world. But at the mo, he is not, so lets stop these kaka comparisons. You should be comparing Rooney with Tevez, Aguero, Rosina, N'Zogbia, Moutinho, Benzema, etc even Messi. And rooney is among the best of that lot.

Rez wrote:
Rooney was fantastic against Milan, the media hype was around Kaka and Ronaldo and in the end he stole the limelight from both of them.

bluenine wrote:I really like Rooney, but that statement is just incorrect... Rooney did not have a better semi final than Kaka.

I think the problem is that you guys just expect too much out of him... why are you comparing him with Kaka?? Rooney is a great young player, but if you hype him too much them it will only make him look like he is under achieving... thats what happened with beckham before, he was always very good, just that thye media hyped him so much with the comparisons with Zidane that he looked like a failure. Beckham was never a failure, he was a world class player IMO. But he was no Zidane.

Rooney could improve to become one of the best players in the world. But at the mo, he is not, so lets stop these kaka comparisons. You should be comparing Rooney with Tevez, Aguero, Rosina, N'Zogbia, Moutinho, Benzema, etc even Messi. And rooney is among the best of that lot.

Rez wrote:
Rooney was fantastic against Milan, the media hype was around Kaka and Ronaldo and in the end he stole the limelight from both of them.

jonathan de guzman wrote:---------------------Krul--------------------
Richards-----Donk----Ramos----Kolarov
--------------------Gago--------------------
------------Cesc--------De Guzman--------
Messi---------------------------------Suarez
-------------------Aguero-------------------

jonathan de guzman wrote:OK let get real here. The last player I needed was a center forward for 4-3-3. Aguero is better at that than Rooney. Says nothing about who is the better player.

Tweedle wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:OK let get real here. The last player I needed was a center forward for 4-3-3. Aguero is better at that than Rooney. Says nothing about who is the better player.

Well he's not really better in that role. Rooney played that role very well against teams like Arsenal, Milan and Roma last season.

Tweedle wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:OK let get real here. The last player I needed was a center forward for 4-3-3. Aguero is better at that than Rooney. Says nothing about who is the better player.

Well he's not really better in that role. Rooney played that role very well against teams like Arsenal, Milan and Roma last season.

Raifael wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:---------------------Krul--------------------
Richards-----Donk----Ramos----Kolarov
--------------------Gago--------------------
------------Cesc--------De Guzman--------
Messi---------------------------------Suarez
-------------------Aguero-------------------

Nice to see Suarez , I'm surprised not many teams have picked him up , from last season + this he is the real deal , should be in the Uruguayan team more often

Agooner wrote:@de guz

u think your name sake is better than Sahin? saw them both in rotterdam vs chelsea and was much more impressed with Nuri. only one game i know...

Capello: Giovinco Is A Great Talent

Ex Roma and Milan Coach Fabio Capello has heaped praise on young Empoli playmaker Sebastian Giovinco but says it is wrong to compare the player to Barcelona star Lionel Messi. The 20-year-old, who is on loan in Tuscany from Juventus, is rightly regarded as one of the most exciting young talents in European football. Blessed with some quite incredible dribbling skills and acceleration, many have already labelled the diminutive youngster as the ‘Italian Messi’. “Giovinco is a player with a great amount of ability. He has incredible technique and great dribbling,” Capello told La Domenica Sportiva. “However I think it is wrong to compare him to Messi. Messi is more physical and has a lot of upper-body strength.”

Giovinco scored his first ever Serie A goal yesterday as Empoli came from behind to beat Palermo 3-1 at the Stadio Carlo Castellani. The win was the Azzurri’s first Serie A win of the new campaign and lifted them to 16th in the table. Giovinco is also a regular for the Italy Under-21 team and is widely regarded as the squad’s best player. The youngster has represented Italy at every age since under-16 level and it seems he will certainly have a starring role for the senior team at some point in the future.

Tweedle wrote:woah bluey! Rooney isn't BETTER than Messi!

Saw Aquafresca's goal. A nice looping header

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Raifael wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:---------------------Krul--------------------
Richards-----Donk----Ramos----Kolarov
--------------------Gago--------------------
------------Cesc--------De Guzman--------
Messi---------------------------------Suarez
-------------------Aguero-------------------

Nice to see Suarez , I'm surprised not many teams have picked him up , from last season + this he is the real deal , should be in the Uruguayan team more often

Pity he's a diving c**t, but he's a hell of a player.

More amazed nobody picked Kolarov who's much much better than all other left fullbacks mentioned.

Tweedle wrote:Well, to compare him to Messi is a bit futile. Messi is for a start is a year younger, plays for one of the best sides in Europe and is their MVP and last season scored 16 goals in 24 league games.

One league goal in Serie A does not make Ginvinco comparable.

I got confused re Rooney, I thought you'd said Rooney was THE best of the lot, rather than one of the best

Rez wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

Tweedle wrote:To argue that Aguero should be ahead of him in an under 21 team is quite frankly laughable.

bet you 50 quid within 12 months Aguero will be ahead of him in the eyes of the most knowledgeable observors of the game. Now we've got rid of that piece if sh¡t who hated the kid he is flourishing playing along side an unslefish forward, have you seen his goals over the last few weeks, not sure rooney could have pulled some of them off tbh

Aguero is a very good player, but he has done nothing to suggest that he is better than Rooney. Rooney has done and won more than any other player his age. The 'most knowledgeable observers of the game' on this board recognised this and thus included him in their teams. It will take more than a few good games for people to class him in the same bracket as Rooney.