Under 21 World XI

What team would you pick EMP? Silva surprisingly has hardly had a mention in this thread.

Messi has won:

FIFA U-20 World Cup: 2005
La Liga: 2004-05, 2005-06
UEFA Champions League: 2005-06
Supercopa de España: 2006

Rooney has won:

Premier League : 2006-07
League Cup Winner: 2006
Community Shield: 2007

Rooney is a fantastic player, not many players can say they have scored a hat trick on their debut

Calidad wrote:What team would you pick EMP? Silva surprisingly has hardly had a mention in this thread.

Messi has won:

FIFA U-20 World Cup: 2005
La Liga: 2004-05, 2005-06
UEFA Champions League: 2005-06
Supercopa de España: 2006

Rooney has won:

Premier League : 2006-07
League Cup Winner: 2006
Community Shield: 2007

I'll post it later, but here's a newsflash: Silva will be in it.

Calidad wrote:
La Liga: 2004-05, 2005-06
UEFA Champions League: 2005-06

He only played 7 league games in the 2004/2005 season. So I don't think that can be included.

He also missed alot of the Champions league games in 2005/2006.

It doesn't matter who's won what anyway, else you could probably argue that Pip Neville is a better footballer than Kaka. Its a flawed arguement

Parks lives wrote:
He also missed alot of the Champions league games in 2005/2006.

golsud wrote:Rooney is a fantastic player, not many players can say they have scored a hat trick on their debut

Didn't Shearer score one for every single club he went to? (hat-tricks on his debut for Southampton, Blackburn and Newcastle). I might be mistaken though.

I was suprised actually how many. I thought he just missed the semi's and the final. He missed the quarters, the semi's and the final.

Parks lives wrote:I was suprised actually how many. I thought he just missed the semi's and the final. He missed the quarters, the semi's and the final.

He missed every leg after our 'battle' with Barcelona that year

S4P wrote:

Parks lives wrote:I was suprised actually how many. I thought he just missed the semi's and the final. He missed the quarters, the semi's and the final.

He missed every leg after our 'battle' with Barcelona that year

Yea if I remember correctly he pulled up with a hamstring in the 2nd leg?

I wasn't using the awards to compare their respective success anyway. Just thought I'd answer the question.

Calidad wrote:

S4P wrote:

Parks lives wrote:I was suprised actually how many. I thought he just missed the semi's and the final. He missed the quarters, the semi's and the final.

He missed every leg after our 'battle' with Barcelona that year

Yea if I remember correctly he pulled up with a hamstring in the 2nd leg?

I wasn't using the awards to compare their respective success anyway. Just thought I'd answer the question.

His hamstring went because of all the rolling he did at Stamford Bridge in the 1st leg

An unusual formation, but it is designed to maximise attacking options and force opponents to have to defend in their own half with so many attacking options. I can't get the formation to work, so without positioning

Akinfeev
Richards Ramos Bale
Moutinho Veloso
Fabregas
Messi Silva
Rooney
Aguero

The Future of Italy:
-------------------Amelia
Potenza - Andreolli - Gamberini - Chiellini
-----------------Nocerino
Rosina -- Montolivo -- Aquilani -- Rossi
------------------Pazzini

The Future of Italy II:
-------------------Curci
De Silvestri - Coda - Criscito - Pasqual
Dessena - Donadel - Giovinco -- Foggia
---------Palladino ---- Acquafresca

Others: Viviano, Consigli, Motta, Marzoratti, Cigarini, Marchisio, Pisano, Pozzi, Pelle, Balotelli, Lupoli.

The Future of Serie A (non-Italian):
------------------Muslera
Behrami - Vanden Borre - Zapata - Kolarov
------Jankovic - Hamsik - Gargano
Cavani --------- Lavezzi ---------- Pandev

Others: Gourcuff, Asamoah; Kuzmanovic, Meghni, Makinwa, Obinna, Ribas, Slavkovski.

bluenine wrote:The Future of Italy:
Rossi

Its also worth noting that this is an under 21 thread and most of those italians are over 21

I'll do a future of England squad that has the likes of Joe Cole and Michael Owen in

All of them are under 23 (except Pandev & Amelia)... like earlier established, in Italy the youngsters usually debut at a much later stage than other leagues.

Tweedle wrote:Its also worth noting that this is an under 21 thread and most of those italians are over 21

I'll do a future of England squad that has the likes of Joe Cole and Michael Owen in

By under 23 you of course mean 23 or under.

Still, this is an under 21 thread and as such, the squads are very deceiving. I'm sure every league could make an impressive list of two 'nationality squads' and an all league squad if the bar was raised agewise.

As it is, an English Under 21 would be:

------------------Hart--------------

Richards-Wheater--Taylor----Taylor

Lennon---Noble--Johnson----Milner

---------Agbonlahor---Walcott

bluenine wrote:All of them are under 23 (except Pandev & Amelia)... like earlier established, in Italy the youngsters usually debut at a much later stage than other leagues.

This is the Italy U21 squad just announced... its interesting to note that even tho Pelle-Pazzini-Palladino have moved on, Lupoli still cannot make the squad!! The most talented ones in bold...

Italy Under-21 squad: Acquafresca (Cagliari), Bastrini (Sampdoria), Consigli (Rimini), Criscito (Juventus), De Ceglie (Siena), De Silvestri (Lazio), Giovinco (Empoli), Marchisio (Empoli), Marzoratti (Empoli), Pozzi (Empoli), Morosini (Vicenza), Motta (Torino), Osvaldo (Fiorentina), Paonessa (Avellino), Ranocchia (Arezzo), G Rossi (Villarreal), Cigarini (Parma), Dessena (Parma), M Rossi (Parma), Russotto (Treviso), Santacroce (Brescia), Sirigu (Cremonese)

Tweedle wrote:By under 23 you of course mean 23 or under.

Still, this is an under 21 thread and as such, the squads are very deceiving. I'm sure every league could make an impressive list of two 'nationality squads' and an all league squad if the bar was raised agewise.

As it is, an English Under 21 would be:

------------------Hart--------------

Richards-Wheater--Taylor----Taylor

Lennon---Noble--Johnson----Milner

---------Agbonlahor---Walcott

bluenine wrote:All of them are under 23 (except Pandev & Amelia)... like earlier established, in Italy the youngsters usually debut at a much later stage than other leagues.

You forgot Osvaldo! Guess which team is the future of Italy?

bluenine wrote:The Future of Italy:
-------------------Amelia
Potenza - Andreolli - Gamberini - Chiellini
-----------------Nocerino
Rosina -- Montolivo -- Aquilani -- Rossi
------------------Pazzini

The Future of Italy II:
-------------------Curci
De Silvestri - Coda - Criscito - Pasqual
Dessena - Donadel - Giovinco -- Foggia
---------Palladino ---- Acquafresca

Others: Viviano, Consigli, Motta, Marzoratti, Cigarini, Marchisio, Pisano, Pozzi, Pelle, Balotelli, Lupoli.

The Future of Serie A (non-Italian):
------------------Muslera
Behrami - Vanden Borre - Zapata - Kolarov
------Jankovic - Hamsik - Gargano
Cavani --------- Lavezzi ---------- Pandev

Others: Gourcuff, Asamoah; Kuzmanovic, Meghni, Makinwa, Obinna, Ribas, Slavkovski.

Yeah, Osvaldo > Pozzi/Lupoli. My bad.

Wow, didn't realise how many of these players are from Fiorentina!!! In 2-3 years time, Fiorentina will be a very dangerous team, if they aren't already.

Gigliati wrote:You forgot Osvaldo! Guess which team is the future of Italy?

bluenine wrote:The Future of Italy:
-------------------Amelia
Potenza - Andreolli - Gamberini - Chiellini
-----------------Nocerino
Rosina -- Montolivo -- Aquilani -- Rossi
------------------Pazzini

The Future of Italy II:
-------------------Curci
De Silvestri - Coda - Criscito - Pasqual
Dessena - Donadel - Giovinco -- Foggia
---------Palladino ---- Acquafresca

Others: Viviano, Consigli, Motta, Marzoratti, Cigarini, Marchisio, Pisano, Pozzi, Pelle, Balotelli, Lupoli.

The Future of Serie A (non-Italian):
------------------Muslera
Behrami - Vanden Borre - Zapata - Kolarov
------Jankovic - Hamsik - Gargano
Cavani --------- Lavezzi ---------- Pandev

Others: Gourcuff, Asamoah; Kuzmanovic, Meghni, Makinwa, Obinna, Ribas, Slavkovski.

Fiorentina>>Arsenal

bluenine wrote:This is the Italy U21 squad just announced... its interesting to note that even tho Pelle-Pazzini-Palladino have moved on, Lupoli still cannot make the squad!! The most talented ones in bold...

Tweedle wrote:By under 23 you of course mean 23 or under.

Still, this is an under 21 thread and as such, the squads are very deceiving. I'm sure every league could make an impressive list of two 'nationality squads' and an all league squad if the bar was raised agewise.

As it is, an English Under 21 would be:

------------------Hart--------------

Richards-Wheater--Taylor----Taylor

Lennon---Noble--Johnson----Milner

---------Agbonlahor---Walcott

bluenine wrote:All of them are under 23 (except Pandev & Amelia)... like earlier established, in Italy the youngsters usually debut at a much later stage than other leagues.

That's because Lupoli is rubbish. He was about to sign for Derby before Fiorentina came in for him

Looks like Gigliati's got a convert

Tweedle wrote:Fiorentina>>Arsenal

In truth, Lupoli really wasn't that good. Wenger was happy for him to leave as we had potentially three young players ahead of him: Walcott, Bendtner and Vela. So he would have been 8 choice striker for us before the sale of Henry and 7th after the sale of Henry

isn't Osvaldo an argie?

Tweedle wrote:In truth, Lupoli really wasn't that good. Wenger was happy for him to leave as we had potentially three young players ahead of him: Walcott, Bendtner and Vela. So he would have been 8 choice striker for us before the sale of Henry and 7th after the sale of Henry

I think he was offered a 4-year contract to stay but turned it down. You must understand that even if he didn't make it we could sell him off for a good fee like Rossi.

bluenine wrote:The Future of Italy:
-------------------Amelia
Potenza - Andreolli - Gamberini - Chiellini
-----------------Nocerino
Rosina -- Montolivo -- Aquilani -- Rossi
------------------Pazzini

The Future of Italy II:
-------------------Curci
De Silvestri - Coda - Criscito - Pasqual
Dessena - Donadel - Giovinco -- Foggia
---------Palladino ---- Acquafresca

Others: Viviano, Consigli, Motta, Marzoratti, Cigarini, Marchisio, Pisano, Pozzi, Pelle, Balotelli, Lupoli.

The Future of Serie A (non-Italian):
------------------Muslera
Behrami - Vanden Borre - Zapata - Kolarov
------Jankovic - Hamsik - Gargano
Cavani --------- Lavezzi ---------- Pandev

Others: Gourcuff, Asamoah; Kuzmanovic, Meghni, Makinwa, Obinna, Ribas, Slavkovski.

Vanden Borre in the centre of defence

He has italian citizenship and has decided to play for Italy instead.

ih8gerrard wrote:isn't Osvaldo an argie?

Wasn't really focussing on making great teams, just mentioning the best talent. Vanden Borre is talented, I can see him breaking into the Fiorentina team soon.

Hlebadinho wrote:

Vanden Borre in the centre of defence

shazlx wrote:

Tweedle wrote:In truth, Lupoli really wasn't that good. Wenger was happy for him to leave as we had potentially three young players ahead of him: Walcott, Bendtner and Vela. So he would have been 8 choice striker for us before the sale of Henry and 7th after the sale of Henry

I think he was offered a 4-year contract to stay but turned it down. You must understand that even if he didn't make it we could sell him off for a good fee like Rossi.

I very much doubt it, as even without taking into account that Rossi is much better than Lupoli, Rossi scored 9 goals in half a season for Parma, so he was much more proven. Rossi was sold off (rather cheaply IMO) on the back of a successful spell in Seri A.