Arsenal Vs Man United

S4P wrote:I know he put in a great cross for the Gallas equaliser but Clichy seems to be the real weak link in the Arsenal team.

Nah, he can't cross but Eboue at RM is more of a weak link.

This place is a joke.

We go to Arsenal away, keep them quiet for the majority of the first half, score a lovely team goal and fully deserved a draw and could/should of held onto the win. 'Yet we have no good passing moves' & 'not one player played well'.


@ Kimbo

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S4P wrote:I know he put in a great cross for the Gallas equaliser but Clichy seems to be the real weak link in the Arsenal team.

He's never going to be a top class player. Armand Traoré looks an incredibly talented player though! Better going forward and he's much better built than Clichy so in a couple of seasons he'll probably overtake him.

Presently with Hleb as a support striker, our lack of player beating wingers is as big a problem. Oh, and our keeper!

Rez wrote:

COTR wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Its worth noting what a c**t Anderson was in this game though. Far worse than Eboué has ever been

He was better than Fabregas today.

he spent the whole day running around after him

the only good work he did was defensive work and he was non existent in the second half

Anderson in the first half was the best player on the pitch, but in the second half he faded away, due to playing against 3 central midfielders with little help from Hargreaves, Ronaldo and Giggs.

Fabregas was ok, but nothing special apart from scoring a goal - the same way Ronaldo scored a goal and got an assist, but was still poor. I still imagine the media will still hype him up because he scored a goal.

Anderson wasn't anything like as creative as fabregas but he did get stuck in and got the ball.

Rez wrote:

Anderson in the first half was the best player on the pitch, but in the second half he faded away, due to playing against 3 central midfielders with little help from Hargreaves, Ronaldo and Giggs.

Fabregas was ok, but nothing special apart from scoring a goal - the same way Ronaldo scored a goal and got an assist, but was still poor. I still imagine the media will still hype him up because he scored a goal.

This is where I have problems Rez

anderson's first half consisted of sitting about two yards in front of his back four and breaking up all the arsenal attacks with the rest of united's parked bus

now last week we were criticised for our central midfielders not being able to progress up the pitch in possession... something anderson and hargreaves barely did at all today

but it's one rule for united and another for liverpool


@ kimmy

Parks lives wrote:This place is a joke.

We go to Arsenal away, keep them quiet for the majority of the first half, score a lovely team goal and fully deserved a draw and could/should of held onto the win. 'Yet we have no good passing moves' & 'not one player played well'.


@ Kimbo

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What goes around comes around

Tweedle wrote:

S4P wrote:I know he put in a great cross for the Gallas equaliser but Clichy seems to be the real weak link in the Arsenal team.

He's never going to be a top class player. Armand Traoré looks an incredibly talented player though! Better going forward and he's much better built than Clichy so in a couple of seasons he'll probably overtake him.

Presently with Hleb as a support striker, our lack of player beating wingers is as big a problem. Oh, and our keeper!

I think Clichy is brilliant one and one defensively and his pace does make him a threat up front but he is slightly too limited in terms of ball control to be have the potential to be World Class left back.
I'd also say that in that formation, a more natural right winger than EBoue would be good although he didnt have bad game today.

Ok it wasnt the best of performance but I expected it to be defensive why because SAF saw that Benitez's Liverpool kept them quiet by playing disciplined or defensively and almost won so happy with 1 point but dissapointed that it could have been 3.

Luis wrote:Best United player was Hargreaves

I though Hargreaves was poor, he couldn't pass the ball, everything was backwards (not even sideways). We really missed Scholes and Carricks distribution from deep.

Parks lives wrote:This place is a joke.

We go to Arsenal away, keep them quiet for the majority of the first half, score a lovely team goal and fully deserved a draw and could/should of held onto the win. 'Yet we have no good passing moves' & 'not one player played well'.


@ Kimbo

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Only COTR has suggested any of that.

Parks lives wrote:This place is a joke.

We go to Arsenal away, keep them quiet for the majority of the first half, score a lovely team goal and fully deserved a draw and could/should of held onto the win. 'Yet we have no good passing moves' & 'not one player played well'.


@ Kimbo

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yeah you are known for your fair comments as well spank


I said particularly well, something one of your own fans has even confirmed

Rez wrote:Fabregas was ok, but nothing special apart from scoring a goal - the same way Ronaldo scored a goal and got an assist, but was still poor. I still imagine the media will still hype him up because he scored a goal.

An 'ok' Cesc is still better than most other players in the league to be honest. He was up against a very impressive Hargreaves

Hlebadinho wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

S4P wrote:I know he put in a great cross for the Gallas equaliser but Clichy seems to be the real weak link in the Arsenal team.

He's never going to be a top class player. Armand Traoré looks an incredibly talented player though! Better going forward and he's much better built than Clichy so in a couple of seasons he'll probably overtake him.

Presently with Hleb as a support striker, our lack of player beating wingers is as big a problem. Oh, and our keeper!

I think Clichy is brilliant one and one defensively and his pace does make him a threat up front but he is slightly too limited in terms of ball control to be have the potential to be World Class left back.
I'd also say that in that formation, a more natural right winger than EBoue would be good although he didnt have bad game today.

I've seen Traoré play the ball incredibly well in some games. If anything he'll imprive that area of his game. ITs what Wenger is good at!

Chelsea 2-0
Newcastle 1-3

Parks lives wrote:This place is a joke.

We go to Arsenal away, keep them quiet for the majority of the first half, score a lovely team goal and fully deserved a draw and could/should of held onto the win. 'Yet we have no good passing moves' & 'not one player played well'.


@ Kimbo

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Well I didn't say that and you have a go at me? I stick by my view that Arsenal didn't deserve to be behind at half time and Anderson is a $h!t but it was a good second half and Rooney should have finished off a very good move.

Tweedle wrote:

Hlebadinho wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

S4P wrote:I know he put in a great cross for the Gallas equaliser but Clichy seems to be the real weak link in the Arsenal team.

He's never going to be a top class player. Armand Traoré looks an incredibly talented player though! Better going forward and he's much better built than Clichy so in a couple of seasons he'll probably overtake him.

Presently with Hleb as a support striker, our lack of player beating wingers is as big a problem. Oh, and our keeper!

I think Clichy is brilliant one and one defensively and his pace does make him a threat up front but he is slightly too limited in terms of ball control to be have the potential to be World Class left back.
I'd also say that in that formation, a more natural right winger than EBoue would be good although he didnt have bad game today.

I've seen Traoré play the ball incredibly well in some games. If anything he'll imprive that area of his game. ITs what Wenger is good at!

Chelsea 2-0
Newcastle 1-3

Yeh, theres no doubt that Traore is better on the ball than Clichy.

Chelsea 2-0 up. looks like the earlier result was just the job

It's not a joke saying we didn't pass the ball well Parky, we didn't. I don't agree that we kept Arsenal quiet at all.

No-one is complaining about the result so I don't know why you bring it up.

Rosy wrote:Chelsea 2-0 up. looks like the earlier result was just the job

Seriously, since Mourinho has left you've been fantastic! I'm sure this is what Abramovich is expected when he bought the club. Great for the league. Congrats for getting rid of that anti-football twat

And the mancs turn on each other...

Owen wrote:It's not a joke saying we didn't pass the ball well Parky, we didn't. I don't agree that we kept Arsenal quiet at all.

No-one is complaining about the result so I don't know why you bring it up.

exactly

I'm not even sure anyone has said the result was unfair

I don't think it is an inaccurate comment to say your players were not great today. arsenal didn't play great either but most of the football that was played was played by them

Parks lives wrote:This place is a joke.

We go to Arsenal away, keep them quiet for the majority of the first half, score a lovely team goal and fully deserved a draw and could/should of held onto the win. 'Yet we have no good passing moves' & 'not one player played well'.


@ Kimbo

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That erases all the gay diving from Man U earlier today, another victory for superspank. Hoorah!!!

Owen wrote:It's not a joke saying we didn't pass the ball well Parky, we didn't. I don't agree that we kept Arsenal quiet at all.

No-one is complaining about the result so I don't know why you bring it up.

You said we had no good passing moves, there's a difference.

We limited Arsenal to speclative shots and half chances in the first half, that is keeping them quiet.

I brought it up because we have clowns like CotR saying not one player, played particularly well which is ridiculous.

Parky's showing his true colours, when it doesn't all go well for United he starts spouting rubbish and his 'calmness' is evaporated!

Rez wrote:

COTR wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Its worth noting what a c**t Anderson was in this game though. Far worse than Eboué has ever been

He was better than Fabregas today.

he spent the whole day running around after him

the only good work he did was defensive work and he was non existent in the second half

Anderson in the first half was the best player on the pitch, but in the second half he faded away, due to playing against 3 central midfielders with little help from Hargreaves, Ronaldo and Giggs.

Fabregas was ok, but nothing special apart from scoring a goal - the same way Ronaldo scored a goal and got an assist, but was still poor. I still imagine the media will still hype him up because he scored a goal.

Rez you've gone beyond taking the piss with this lot. Anderson was not the best on the pitch in any half, it was clearly Hleb in the 1st and pretty even between a few players in the second.

Secondly you can't compare Ronaldo's performance to Cesc's at all. Ronaldo did two maybe three things all game whilst Cesc kept the tempo and played us out of defence throughout the game. No defence splitting passes today but still one of the players of the game.

Tweedle wrote:

Rosy wrote:Chelsea 2-0 up. looks like the earlier result was just the job

Seriously, since Mourinho has left you've been fantastic! I'm sure this is what Abramovich is expected when he bought the club. Great for the league. Congrats for getting rid of that anti-football twat

Yes it's hard to let go when someone has been very successful, Bold decision by Abramovich. As a character Mourinho is a loss to the league. I could see Liverpool paying him a call as his style of football would suit them down to the ground

Parks lives wrote:

Owen wrote:It's not a joke saying we didn't pass the ball well Parky, we didn't. I don't agree that we kept Arsenal quiet at all.

No-one is complaining about the result so I don't know why you bring it up.

You said we had no good passing moves, there's a difference.

We limited Arsenal to speclative shots and half chances in the first half, that is keeping them quiet.

I brought it up because we have clowns like CotR saying not one player, played particularly well which is ridiculous.

I thought Evra was good. Saha was good when he came on. I thought Rooney was pretty good in places and invisible at others. Anderson good for 30 minutes, Hargreaves wasn't as awful as I thought he would be (I just don't like him),

On the other side, I thought Brown/Vidic and Rio for goals/Ronaldo/Tevez had Giggs had bad games. I lost count of the number of times we fucked up simple passes.

Could have done with Scholes today.

Parks lives wrote:

Owen wrote:It's not a joke saying we didn't pass the ball well Parky, we didn't. I don't agree that we kept Arsenal quiet at all.

No-one is complaining about the result so I don't know why you bring it up.

You said we had no good passing moves, there's a difference.

We limited Arsenal to speclative shots and half chances in the first half, that is keeping them quiet.

I brought it up because we have clowns like CotR saying not one player, played particularly well which is ridiculous.

I think we can all spot who the real clown is in this thread spank

you grinded out a decent result without playing particularly well

it's hardly a strong insult but any criticism of united is met with this fierce contempt

You could have done with scholes today

We could have done with Agger, Alonso and Torres for the full 90 last week.

Fabregas one of the best players of the game and you say Rez is biased?!

He did nothing for the tempo either, as he spent the majority of the game in the attacking third not able to get on the ball as much as he does or pass the ball as much as he does.

COTR wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

Owen wrote:It's not a joke saying we didn't pass the ball well Parky, we didn't. I don't agree that we kept Arsenal quiet at all.

No-one is complaining about the result so I don't know why you bring it up.

You said we had no good passing moves, there's a difference.

We limited Arsenal to speclative shots and half chances in the first half, that is keeping them quiet.

I brought it up because we have clowns like CotR saying not one player, played particularly well which is ridiculous.

I think we can all spot who the real clown is in this thread spank

Rez?