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    Post by Football Genius Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:38 pm

    You don't achieve what he has whilst being an integral part of a team, if you're 'average'

    Scoring in one final might be considered flukey, but in 6 finals?

    Go f@ck yourself Otto, complete WUM i'd love to smash your dirty German teeth into pieces Ale

    Have one on me Ale Pr!ck ok
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:39 pm

    ^^^^^^ one for the sigs
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    Post by Ä Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:46 pm

    does anybody on here believe that Gerrard will improve with age

    like a good bottle of Fine Wine

    or is he more a case of "once the Champagne bottle is opened..."
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:52 pm

    Dolly wrote:does anybody on here believe that Gerrard will improve with age

    like a good bottle of Fine Wine

    or is he more a case of "once the Champagne bottle is opened..."

    Who knows,

    he certainly needs to buck up his England form.

    For Liverpool though, can't be many complaints - hence the aggressive and generally unanimous response your thread has recieved from 'Pool fans
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:52 pm

    Can we set up a boxing match between FG and Otto?
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    Post by Ä Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:12 pm

    borocooper wrote:Can we set up a boxing match between FG and Otto?

    no, we cannot

    has something to do with different weight classes, competitive disadvantages and the like

    I would accept a boxing match with bernd or fey

    might have to shed some extra-poundage though

    the mental beer belly that comes from spending too much time on here is beginning to tell

    I'd pick axel as a sparring partner

    after a week or so my uppercut would be better than Vladimir's

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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:16 pm

    Dolly wrote:
    borocooper wrote:Can we set up a boxing match between FG and Otto?

    no, we cannot

    has something to do with different weight classes, competitive disadvantages and the like

    I would accept a boxing match with bernd or fey

    might have to shed some extra-poundage though

    the mental beer belly that comes from spending too much time on here is beginning to tell

    I'd pick axel as a sparring partner

    after a week or so my uppercut would be better than Vladimir's Hatton's

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    You ever seen that film 300?

    That's was based on a typical night out with the lads in Morley, near Leeds <Ale>
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    Post by Ä Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:21 pm

    we Germans never understood why the Spartans needed 300 people for a job more suited to 30

    different mentality and work methods , I suppose
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    Post by Fey Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:23 pm

    Dolly wrote:we Germans never understood why the Spartans needed 300 people for a job more suited to 30

    different mentality and work methods , I suppose

    lol! lol!

    The Spartans love to grind, were the Germans are the Blitzguys!
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:23 pm

    Dolly wrote:we Germans never understood why the Spartans needed 300 people for a job more suited to 30

    No wonder you lost both wars. Erm
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    Post by Ä Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:25 pm

    quite funny this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJYk-asu0oE
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    Post by 110% Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:54 pm

    here you go:

    http://www.uefa.com/fanzone/teamoftheyear/news/newsid=647474.html

    After 3.75 million votes were cast by 277,985 users, the uefa.com users' Team of the Year 2007 has been revealed. Take an in-depth look at the selections.


    Central midfield: Steven Gerrard (Liverpool FC)
    The Liverpool talisman may have lost out to Milan in the UEFA Champions League final, but Gerrard finished well ahead of second-placed Andrea Pirlo in the voting in this category. He also received more votes as captain than any other player, over 40,000. He led Liverpool to a second final in three years and late in 2007 scored in seven successive matches, including the last three UEFA Champions League fixtures as Liverpool made the last 16.


    Additionally I'd point out the teams of the year for the last 3 years and only 1 name has consistently been that good. That's right Steven Gerrard.

    http://www.uefa.com/fanzone/teamoftheyear/news/newsid=647292.html

    uefa.com users' Team of 2007
    Iker Casillas (Real Madrid CF)
    Daniel Alves (Sevilla FC)
    Alessandro Nesta (AC Milan)
    John Terry (Chelsea FC)
    Eric Abidal (FC Barcelona)
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United FC)
    Steven Gerrard (Liverpool FC)
    Kaká (AC Milan)
    Clarence Seedorf (AC Milan)
    Zlatan Ibrahimović (FC Internazionale Milano)
    Didier Drogba (Chelsea FC)
    Coach: Sir Alex Ferguson (Manchester United FC)



    uefa.com users' Team of 2006
    Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus)
    Gianluca Zambrotta (FC Barcelona)
    Fabio Cannavaro (Real Madrid CF)
    Carles Puyol (FC Barcelona)
    Philipp Lahm (FC Bayern München)
    Steven Gerrard (Liverpool FC)
    Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal FC)
    Kaká (AC Milan)
    Ronaldinho (FC Barcelona)
    Thierry Henry (Arsenal FC)
    Samuel Eto'o (FC Barcelona)
    Coach: Frank Rijkaard (FC Barcelona)



    uefa.com users' Team of 2005
    Petr Cech (Chelsea FC)
    Cafu (AC Milan)
    John Terry (Chelsea FC)
    Carles Puyol (FC Barcelona)
    Paolo Maldini (AC Milan)
    Luis García (Liverpool FC)
    Steven Gerrard (Liverpool FC)
    Ronaldinho (FC Barcelona)
    Pavel Nedved (Juventus)
    Samuel Eto'o (FC Barcelona)
    Andriy Shevchenko (AC Milan)
    Coach: José Mourinho (Chelsea FC)
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:57 pm

    110% wrote:

    After 3.75 million votes were cast by 277,985 users

    So people voted an average of 13 times!?
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:05 pm

    Why don't we just let the Sun choose our world XI? Doh
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:07 pm

    Gerrard is very good probably England's best midfielder but no way he is in the top five(best midfielders) in the world
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    Post by 110% Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:15 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    110% wrote:

    After 3.75 million votes were cast by 277,985 users

    So people voted an average of 13 times!?

    I guess people were allowed to change their minds up until the deadline.

    Good to see that is the only flaw you found. Must work harder to identify a phrase that might not be correct and pick fault with it. Wink
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    Post by 110% Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:19 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:Why don't we just let the Sun choose our world XI? Doh

    What has this got to do with it? Is ballack only good becasue the sun's equivalent in germany says he is Doh

    The votes were from uefa users, and the uefa.com web-site is in different languages, so maybe it was the sol readers from spain and the soleil readers from italy. Or maybe he is just highly regarded as opposed to ballack who was highly regarded 2 years ago.

    I'm sure you'd be the second one wanking yourself off over it if ballack had been named, otto being the first of course. The 2 of you would be having your own little ballack love-in thread Wink.
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    Post by 110% Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:21 pm

    EMPortuguese wrote:Gerrard is very good probably England's best midfielder but no way he is in the top five(best midfielders) in the world

    ok at least acknowledgement that he is england's best midfielder.

    so who are your top 5?

    and would he be in your top 10?
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:26 pm

    The England teams best midfielder in front of Lampard, J Cole, Barry and an old Beckham.

    What an accolade.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:31 pm

    110% wrote:
    EMPortuguese wrote:Gerrard is very good probably England's best midfielder but no way he is in the top five(best midfielders) in the world

    ok at least acknowledgement that he is england's best midfielder.

    so who are your top 5?

    and would he be in your top 10?
    i prefer Pirlo,Essien,Cambiasso,Iniesta,Scholes,Gattuso, over Gerrard even maybe Hargreaves
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:32 pm

    Parks lives wrote:The England teams best midfielder in front of Lampard, J Cole, Barry and an old Beckham.

    What an accolade.
    He is probably better than Hargreaves but i would pick Hargreaves over Gerrard in my team.
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    Post by 110% Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:15 pm

    Parks lives wrote:The England teams best midfielder in front of Lampard, J Cole, Barry and an old Beckham.

    What an accolade.

    so you don't consider carrick, hargreaves and scholes good enough for england, I''m glad you can acknowledge it Wink
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    Post by 110% Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:18 pm

    EMPortuguese wrote:
    110% wrote:
    EMPortuguese wrote:Gerrard is very good probably England's best midfielder but no way he is in the top five(best midfielders) in the world

    ok at least acknowledgement that he is england's best midfielder.

    so who are your top 5?

    and would he be in your top 10?
    i prefer Pirlo,Essien,Cambiasso,Iniesta,Scholes,Gattuso, over Gerrard even maybe Hargreaves

    so that would make him the 7th or 8th best midfielder in the world for you.

    even though I love gattuso he isn't anywhere near as good. Pirlo and gattuso work great together, but both need each other. Inidivudally I'd have gerrard over both of them. Essien is overrated, especially going forward. Cambiasso on the form he is in at the moment is the best, but he needs to show it in the CL. gerrard on his best form against Cambiasso on his best, I'd prefer gerrard. Iniesta like scholes is a great passer but limited in other parts of his game compared to some of the others.

    At least you didn't name ballack, expect a visit from allez Wink
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    Post by Sir Les Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:19 pm

    Dolly wrote:it's like saying

    Q: is Ruth pretty
    A: not as pretty as she could be; but still incomparibly prettier than Sally Gunnell

    Smile

    lol!
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    Post by 110% Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:20 pm

    EMPortuguese wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:The England teams best midfielder in front of Lampard, J Cole, Barry and an old Beckham.

    What an accolade.
    He is probably better than Hargreaves but i would pick Hargreaves over Gerrard in my team.

    any reason for this?

    normally you need 2 in central midfield, for england I'd have both, so they can play something like germany.
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    Post by Sir Les Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:22 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    110% wrote:

    After 3.75 million votes were cast by 277,985 users

    So people voted an average of 13 times!?

    lol! It's just like X factor where half of Scotland voted 10 times for Michelle McManus and the guy who sucked who won this year.
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    Post by Football Genius Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:28 pm

    Gerrard is not everbodys cup of tea, i can appreciate this.

    I was a central midfielder and i always loved watching players like Roy Keane, Bryan Robson, Vieira etc. real box to box midfielders in their hay day.

    The real difference between the above and Gerrard is that Gerrard can be looked upon as a match winner whereas the above never really hit as many goals and particularly few in crucial games.

    I'd take a fully fit Gerrard in the centre of the park over any other central midfielder in the world, but then i am a Liverpool fan, what we need is somebody behind him who is strong can tackle and has excellent distribution to compliment him perfectly Ale
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    Post by Sir Les Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:37 pm

    Football Genius wrote:Gerrard is not everbodys cup of tea, i can appreciate this.

    I was a central midfielder and i always loved watching players like Roy Keane, Bryan Robson, Vieira etc. real box to box midfielders in their hay day.

    The real difference between the above and Gerrard is that Gerrard can be looked upon as a match winner whereas the above never really hit as many goals and particularly few in crucial games.

    I'd take a fully fit Gerrard in the centre of the park over any other central midfielder in the world, but then i am a Liverpool fan, what we need is somebody behind him who is strong can tackle and has excellent distribution to compliment him perfectly Ale

    The key with Gerrard is blend. Play him alongside Lampard and of course it doesn't work. They're both glory hunters. He needs someone to do the solid work in midfield.
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    Post by shazlx Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:38 pm

    Football Genius wrote:Gerrard is not everbodys cup of tea, i can appreciate this.

    I was a central midfielder and i always loved watching players like Roy Keane, Bryan Robson, Vieira etc. real box to box midfielders in their hay day.

    The real difference between the above and Gerrard is that Gerrard can be looked upon as a match winner whereas the above never really hit as many goals and particularly few in crucial games.

    I'd take a fully fit Gerrard in the centre of the park over any other central midfielder in the world, but then i am a Liverpool fan, what we need is somebody behind him who is strong can tackle and has excellent distribution to compliment him perfectly Ale
    So you need a world class box2box midfielder to compliment him. OK good luck finding one. Cesc just needed an improved Flamini, Scholes did well with Carrick.
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    Post by Football Genius Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:40 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:Gerrard is not everbodys cup of tea, i can appreciate this.

    I was a central midfielder and i always loved watching players like Roy Keane, Bryan Robson, Vieira etc. real box to box midfielders in their hay day.

    The real difference between the above and Gerrard is that Gerrard can be looked upon as a match winner whereas the above never really hit as many goals and particularly few in crucial games.

    I'd take a fully fit Gerrard in the centre of the park over any other central midfielder in the world, but then i am a Liverpool fan, what we need is somebody behind him who is strong can tackle and has excellent distribution to compliment him perfectly Ale
    So you need a world class box2box midfielder to compliment him. OK good luck finding one. Cesc just needed an improved Flamini, Scholes did well with Carrick.

    Instead of shaz perhaps spaz would be a better name Ale

    Of course i wouldn't want a box to box midfielder next to him, what idiot would put two box to box midfielders in a team, you're not McClown in disguise are you?

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