This topic is now becoming quite an issue, with Gerrard picking up another MOTM award (must've been his 5th or 6th in a row now) leaving other England players feeling agrieved.
Serious question, yes or no?
Calidad wrote:Whilst I don't think he has ever really given a great performance in an England shirt, I'd like to see him without Flumps first. So I voted No. In a midfield of:
----------Hargreaves---------
Bentley---Gerrard------Barry
If he doesn't perform in within the next year though, I'd definitely consider it.
S4P2 wrote:We already tried Gerrard in the centre without Lamps v Andorra.
Remember how that one went?
It was only when Andorra became tired after chasing shadows for 50+ minutes that Gerrard finally broke through.
Jesus, even Lampard could have scored 2 goals that night.
~CT~ wrote:Seriously retarded question.
Ronaldiniho had a Cr@p world cup...Shall we have him dropped as well?
kas wrote:No, because he epitomises England's strength - non-stop, going at the opposition, putting crosses in, always working hard, etc. Too bad the current and previous manager have completely abandoned any use of these strengths.
I think the team should be like others have posted - Gerrard with Hargreaves behind him, though I would also like to see if Carrick-Gerrard works.
OwenThomas4 wrote:kas wrote:No, because he epitomises England's strength - non-stop, going at the opposition, putting crosses in, always working hard, etc. Too bad the current and previous manager have completely abandoned any use of these strengths.
I think the team should be like others have posted - Gerrard with Hargreaves behind him, though I would also like to see if Carrick-Gerrard works.
This is an insult but it's true.
Embarrassing.
OwenThomas4 wrote:kas wrote:No, because he epitomises England's strength - non-stop, going at the opposition, putting crosses in, always working hard, etc. Too bad the current and previous manager have completely abandoned any use of these strengths.
I think the team should be like others have posted - Gerrard with Hargreaves behind him, though I would also like to see if Carrick-Gerrard works.
This is an insult but it's true.
Embarrassing.
Silver surfer wrote:Team should always play 4-4-2 at high tempo full stop.
shazlx wrote:Yes, unless he wants to play RB (seriously). I'm tired of the excuses of it being Lampard's fault. Yes, Lampard is $h!t, and yes Gerrard is better than him but there is no reason why he should not be able to pass to other players. Flump is not reason why he should have a $h!t touch, flump is not the reason which he has weak technique. Essien can still play well with Lampard in the team, if Gerrard is WC then at least get the basics right FFS.
OwenThomas4 wrote:Silver surfer wrote:Team should always play 4-4-2 at high tempo full stop.
We won't ever win anything (we won't anyway) but at least it would be exciting.
Thats the thing, his not even a true grafter, Makalele, Mascherano, Gilberto, Hargreaves... are grafters and can also pass competently (sometimes brilliantly). Englaish grafters = Barton, Noble, Mullins... we'll see if they mature (Barton, we probably won't)OwenThomas4 wrote:I just hope more and more technical players come to the EPL and become a success (Anderson/Ronaldo/Nani = ) because eventually the mentality of the coaching will gradually change from the hoof it mentality. I am sick of these grafters.
BTW not one of the best players, lets get that clear.Rez wrote:I think we should drop him and flumps for a few games, the way Brazil dropped Ronaldinho for a while, just to make him realise, that even though he is one of our best players, he has to step his game up.
Rez wrote:I think we should drop him and flumps for a few games, the way Brazil dropped Ronaldinho for a while, just to make him realise, that even though he is one of our best players, he has to step his game up.
This is your problem, ( and McClarens, how do you know his replacement would not have stepped up.COTR wrote:Rez wrote:I think we should drop him and flumps for a few games, the way Brazil dropped Ronaldinho for a while, just to make him realise, that even though he is one of our best players, he has to step his game up.
totally unrealistic though
without gerrard england would not have even beaten andorra
I think you realise that dropping gerrard is not the answer, however good the idea may seem in theory.
plus the MOTM display means there is even less chance
by the time england get through not playing everyone who deserves to be dropped gerrard, flump, beckham, rooney, cole, owen, robinson there simply won't be many players left
shazlx wrote:This is your problem, ( and McClarens, how do you know his replacement would not have stepped up.COTR wrote:Rez wrote:I think we should drop him and flumps for a few games, the way Brazil dropped Ronaldinho for a while, just to make him realise, that even though he is one of our best players, he has to step his game up.
totally unrealistic though
without gerrard england would not have even beaten andorra
I think you realise that dropping gerrard is not the answer, however good the idea may seem in theory.
plus the MOTM display means there is even less chance
by the time england get through not playing everyone who deserves to be dropped gerrard, flump, beckham, rooney, cole, owen, robinson there simply won't be many players left