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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:23 pm

    pique could miss the game against malaga with a high fever, nothing but defensive problems for us this season,

    So thats means marquez and Carceres tomorrow, is that kas worst nightmare?
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    Post by fcb Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:59 pm

    Yeah pretty much...especially against a team like Malaga who have so much pace in their attack Sad
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    Post by L r dd Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:28 pm

    Just wondering are Barca goint to FC Barcelona Thread - *Campeones de España y de Europa 2009* - Page 14 Choke1 tomorrow?
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    Post by Riviera Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:49 pm

    What? Going to try to commit suicide with a plastic bag over their head?

    Doubt it
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    Post by Hem fet un.. Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:04 pm

    L-r d wrote:Just wondering are Barca goint to FC Barcelona Thread - *Campeones de España y de Europa 2009* - Page 14 Choke1 tomorrow?

    lol


    You lot aren't exactly impressive at the moment. Stop obsessing over us, and focus on the fact that your super expensive squad doesn't exactly play football that captivates the neutrals...
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:12 pm

    Pique is not in the squad to face malaga, Guess it will be marquez&caceres or maybe sanchez, it could get more difficult than i anticipated
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    Post by fcb Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:17 pm

    Read an article about Guardiola in the Financial Times today, written by Simon Kuper as part of his weekly sport column for the paper...he tried to link the sporting aspect to a discussion on good leadership skills, but didn't really go into enough depth. Still, an interesting read:

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/363e3e36-15b8-11de-b9a9-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1


    Leadership lessons from the man who set Barcelona alight

    By Simon Kuper

    Published: March 21 2009 02:00 | Last updated: March 21 2009 02:00

    A year ago, one of Barcelona's vice-presidents mused over lunch at the Nou Camp stadium that perhaps Josep "Pep" Guardiola should be the club's next coach. It seemed a weird idea. Guardiola was then 37, and had never managed a professional football club, let alone the biggest on earth.

    True, replied the veep, but Guardiola was a Catalan, and "Barça" longed to have a home-grown coach. After all, she added, when the Catalan Victor Valdés became Barcelona's goalkeeper, he wasn't yet a world-beater, but he learnt doing the job.

    I never wrote about the conversation because I assumed she was fantasising. But months later Guardiola got the job. He then transformed last season's jaded Barça team into what the great Italian coach Arrigo Sacchi calls "the most beautiful footballing cause of recent years". Next month the team meets Bayern Munich in the quarter-finals of the Champions League.

    Guardiola's inspired appointment offers two lessons to any company: how to choose a boss, and how the boss should choose his team.

    The key point about Guardiola is that he has been identified with Barcelona almost from birth. He comes from a Catalan village and has spent most of his life in the square kilometre of the Nou Camp. As Jimmy Burns writes in Barça: A People's Passion , locals still remember Guardiola as a skinny 15-year-old ballboy illegally running on to the pitch and hugging a player during a European semi-final in 1986. They remember him as a skinny playmaker, standing on the balcony of the Generalitat building in 1992, holding aloft the European Cup, and saying in Catalan, " Ja la teniu aquí " ("Here you have it"). The phrase gave many in the crowd goosebumps, because it deliberately echoed the legendary " Ja soc aquí " ("Here I am") of Josep Tarradellas, the Catalan president, when he returned from French exile after General Franco died.

    In other words, Guardiola, a reader of Catalan poetry, is such a perfect Catalan hero that he is practically a character from a 19th-century poem himself. Cynics mockingly call him "The Myth". But most Barça fans always hoped that one day The Myth would return as their skinny coach.

    This background matters because it helps Guardiola govern with the grain of the club culture. He understands how the fans want Barcelona to play: the attacking, quick-passing football down the wings that the Dutchman Johan Cruijff introduced at the club. In Guardiola's phrase, Cruijff painted the chapel, and subsequent coaches must merely restore and improve it.

    The fans agree. By governing with the grain, Guardiola wins instant acceptance in this club of tireless warring factions. It's like the unknown from the ranks who is chosen as CEO because everyone likes him and he understands the company. He contrasts with the "star" CEO or coach from outside, who often tries to overturn the existing corporate culture: José Mourinho, for instance, won prizes at Chelsea but was never accepted there largely because his defensive tactics offended English football culture. The moment Chelsea stopped winning, Mourinho had to leave.

    Star players obey Guardiola because they know they have no chance of forcing him out. They stick to the three-page "code of good conduct" he wrote before the season, stick to their zones on the field, and when the great striker Samuel Eto'o dares talk back at training, he is banished to the showers. Barcelona's players are so good that as long as they serve the collective, they will win prizes.

    And that is the main lesson from Guardiola's work: he kept his best players. A year ago everyone expected Barcelona to sell the difficult, underperforming Eto'o and Thierry Henry. But Guardiola knew that football's scarcest resource is talent. Instead of buying lesser, more dutiful players, he dared to persevere with class. He melded Eto'o, Henry and Lionel Messi into football's most thrilling attack.

    Only one step remains in Guardiola's career path: displace Sant Jordi as the skinny patron saint of Catalonia.

    simonkuper-ft@hotmail.com

    Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2009
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    Post by fcb Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:30 pm

    Worth noting that the return of Iniesta allows us to keep possession better, and thus there's less pressure on the back 4. With him out of the midfield, we suddenly would lose the ball more often and Malaga had some good chances later in the game.

    Iniesta's so good at keeping the ball, he should be a fairground game - 5 bucks for 3 tries, if you get the ball off him you win a stuffed toy Ale


    Also pleased with Valdes today, and the reaction of the crowd was positive. He should be careful not to get complacent again though.
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:52 pm

    Must say caceres was a beast at the back to today.

    Another clean sheet i'm happy.

    caceres and bojan are finding some form at a important part of the season, but for helb to do the same.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:55 pm

    oohhh 2nd wind ok

    Too soon though. Peaked Ale
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:02 pm

    iniesta and yaya are out for two weeks.
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    Post by fcb Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:03 pm

    Messiah wrote:iniesta and yaya are out for two weeks.

    Back in time for CL quarterfinal 1st leg Ale
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    Post by Hem fet un.. Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:09 pm

    thank god for that....

    Good game.. I had tickets but since I got foodpoisoning I had to settle for the tv Sad
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:13 pm

    goals (125 = 78 + 28 + 13)
    30 Messi (19 + 6 + 5)
    29 Eto'o (25 + 4 + 0)
    21 Henry (15 + 5 + 1)
    9 Bojan (2 + 3 + 4)
    8 Xavi (5 + 3 + 0)
    4 Keita (3 + 1 + 0)
    4 Gudjohnsen (3 + 0 + 1)
    4 Alves (4 + 0 + 0)
    3 Busquets (1 + 2 + 0)
    3 Márquez (1 + 1 + 1)
    2 Touré (2 + 0 + 0)
    2 Piqué (0 + 1 + 1)
    2 Iniesta (2 + 0 + 0)
    1 Sylvinho (0 + 1 + 0)
    3 own-goals opponent (2 + 1 + 0)


    assists
    24 Xavi (18 + 5 + 1)
    18 Messi (14 + 3 + 1)
    14 Alves (10 + 2 + 2)
    11 Henry (7 + 3 + 0)
    11 Iniesta (6 + 2 + 2)
    10 Eto'o (7 + 3 + 0)
    6 Bojan (2 + 2 + 2)
    4 Gudjohnsen (2 + 2 + 0)
    4 Puyol (4 + 0 + 0)
    3 Márquez (0 + 3 + 0)
    3 Hleb (3 + 0 + 0)
    2 Touré (2 + 0 + 0)
    1 Piqué (0 + 0 + 1)
    1 Sylvinho (0 + 0 + 1)
    1 Keita (0 + 1 + 0)
    1 Pedro (0 + 1 + 0)
    1 Víctor Sánchez (0 + 0 + 1)
    1 Busquets (0 + 1 + 0)
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    Post by TITO Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:14 pm

    Not the best news, but at least it's not worse.
    Puyol will be also back by that time, so we can have the full squad to face Bayern.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:09 pm

    Valladolid are interested in signing Botia next season, i say if barca b dont get promoted we should sell him, with a low buy back clause.

    Barca B got eaten alive sunday and lost 4-0
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:16 pm

    Henry

    "Whenever you have a game at Barcelona you have to win it. It’s not only the Champions League you have to win — it’s the league and the King’s Cup. It’s the first time I’ve experienced that in my life. You lose a game at Barcelona and it’s chaos — even if you are 15 points ahead in the table. In England, it’s not the same. Manchester United lost to Liverpool last week but it wasn’t the end of the world."


    Welcome to playing at a mega club.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:27 pm

    That article kas posted about pep, is now on the barca website and foxsoccer.com.

    way for beating them to it kas sunny
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    Post by fcb Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:28 pm

    Hehe nothing beats reading it first in the actual paper copy of the paper.

    Anyway, I think they probably read this board Wink
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    Post by The Bulk Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:04 pm

    Messiah wrote:goals (125 = 78 + 28 + 13)
    30 Messi (19 + 6 + 5)

    Messi has scored 30 this season in all competitions? Amazing. Didn't realise he was chipping in with so many goals.
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    Post by toon h Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:07 pm

    we have 84 in the league in total though...
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    Post by shazlx Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:21 pm

    Messiah wrote:
    assists

    11 Henry (7 + 3 + 0)
    10 Eto'o (7 + 3 + 0)
    Question
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    Post by Riviera Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:33 pm

    kas wrote:Hehe nothing beats reading it first in the actual paper copy of the paper.

    Anyway, I think they probably read this board Wink

    Where are you from Kas?

    I can't get over how amazing Messi is cheers too bad about Iniesta though
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    Post by TITO Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:35 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Messiah wrote:
    assists

    11 Henry (7 + 3 + 0)
    10 Eto'o (7 + 3 + 0)
    Question

    One more or less, who cares. Very Happy
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    Post by Riviera Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:36 pm

    yeah and Eto'o got 8 more goals than Henry...
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    Post by TITO Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:06 pm

    Which attack is more thrilling?
    Ronnie - Eto'o - Messi

    or

    Henry - Eto'o - Messi.

    And i'm not talking about who's a better player, Henry or Ronnie, just which one of them makes the attack more thrilling and enjoyable?

    Maybe the current one is more lethal, especially with the goals from Messi, but the former one was more thrilling. Ronnie's magic is missing.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:10 pm

    REM winnings the thrilling contest without breaking a sweat.
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    Post by Riviera Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:12 pm

    Yeah Ronnie had magic... every now and then! But when they build up an amazing attack these days, well the magic feels twice as strong.
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:09 pm

    TITO wrote:Which attack is more thrilling?
    Ronnie - Eto'o - Messi

    or

    Henry - Eto'o - Messi.

    And i'm not talking about who's a better player, Henry or Ronnie, just which one of them makes the attack more thrilling and enjoyable?

    Maybe the current one is more lethal, especially with the goals from Messi, but the former one was more thrilling. Ronnie's magic is missing.
    That is not even a serious question is it?

    One team has Ronaldinho, the other has Henry. Nuff said. <Ale>
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:42 pm

    Dinho alone made me jump out of my seat, more times in one season, than this team has an whole has do so far this season.

    What a fucking player he was, what a fucking player, if only he stayed focused, still believe he can be at the very top of the game again with the right coach.

    or maybe the Brazilian voodoo only lasts for 3 seasons.

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