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    U17 EC Final 11.00 CET FT Germany v Holland 2-1

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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 3:23 pm

    Netherlands tasked with holding off England

    Germany are through to the UEFA European Under-17 Championship semi-finals and a draw against the hosts in Jena this afternoon would ensure the Netherlands join them – but England have not given up hope of pipping the Jong Oranje to second place.
    Deficit
    England, following a 4-0 loss to Germany on Saturday, trail the Netherlands by three points. They not only have to beat eliminated Turkey in Gotha but also hope the Netherlands lose and overturn their goal difference deficit of five. However, defeat for England and it will be Turkey who join Germany and the Netherlands in the FIFA U-17 World Cup in Nigeria this autumn.
    Response
    "Reflecting back on Saturday it was a tough result for us to take," England manager John Peacock told uefa.com. "We've had a long chat with the players individually and they're a lot clearer in their minds about what needs to be done and they're positive so I'm delighted about that. We definitely want to make sure we go out on a high, if we do go out, with World Cup qualification there ready to take. And then we'd like to get the second bit, the semi-finals, and that's not dead and buried."
    Gökhan returns
    Peacock, without suspended striker Jose Baxter, is hoping that midfielders Jonjo Shelvey and Ryan Tunnicliffe can recover from knocks. Turkey coach Abdullah Ercan will have Chelsea FC playmaker Gökhan Töre back from the suspension that kept him out of the 2-1 loss to the Netherlands which ended their hopes. Striker Muhammet Demir started that game despite his knee problem and Ercan admitted: "These are two important players for our team and we have not been able to use them fully in the two matches. It gives a message to our players; if you have a chance, you should force yourself to continue. It is up to them if they wish to make the most of their chance."
    Dutch aim
    The Netherlands will aim to ensure England's result is irrelevant to the semi-final shake-up but will have to be content with a crowd similar to the 8,500 that cheered on Germany at the Ernst-Abbe Sportfeld on Saturday. Coach Albert Stuivenberg has not been fully satisfied with the performances so far despite four points, and said: "We have to do better, we want to play better football in the next match." He fielded an unchanged starting lineup against Turkey in hot conditions and added: "It was a very tough game for us. They need their strength back."
    German focus
    It is simpler for Germany coach Marco Pezzaiuoli but although they know they will play in Friday's semi-finals he does not want any let-up against the Netherlands. "We have been very good in defence and scored at the right moments," he said. "We need to keep our concentration in the next game, we want to win it. It is not an easy game, the Netherlands qualified well, they won their group with nine points and eight unanswered goals. It is important not to be too lax and lose concentration before the semi-final." Christopher Buchtmann, who has scored one and made four of Germany's seven goals so far, is suspended.
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 4:42 pm

    Germany rest Goetze, who really impressed me so far, a real number 10 & Scheidhauer, who did well too. They also miss Pool's Buchtmann. No surprises in Holland's line-up: Ozyakup captain & an all Feyenoord attack.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue May 12, 2009 4:49 pm

    No streams I guess? Sad
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:05 pm

    Only for Holland v Germany:

    http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=38618&part=sports
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:07 pm

    so far so good

    20' Turkey v England 0-0
    20' Germany v Holland 0-0
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue May 12, 2009 5:14 pm

    Yeah cos that's obviously not the one I wanted Guz Rolling Eyes Razz

    You is a fecking legend, was thinking a liveticker would be the best I'd manage...

    why is it only 40 mins a half?

    Ah well, too much for my Mac at the mo but don't really have the time anyway...
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:17 pm

    only 40 minutes because they're U17 & they might have to play 5 matches in 14 days.

    so far pretty boring Germany are happy sitting back and Holland attack cautiously. Germany no shots at goal; Holland only a few half chances.
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:22 pm

    Germany score with their first attack after 35' : 1-0 Thy. very efficient.
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:29 pm

    HT England v Turkey 0-0
    HT Germany v Holland 1-0
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue May 12, 2009 5:33 pm

    cheers

    Orange trägt nur die Müllabfuhr
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:41 pm

    If Germany win or draw they'll play Italy in the SFs. Holland play the Swiss in the other SF (unless England beats Turkey & catches up 4 more goals on Holland).

    Turkey need to beat England to qualify for the U17 WC, otherwise England will.
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:44 pm

    Injury has ruled out Jonjo Shelvey, Jack Wilshere and Ryan Tunnicliffe and Everton's Jose Baxter is suspended. Sam Johnstone replaces Jed Steer in goal, while Jacob Walcott, Louis Laing and Sam Habergham are all set for their first start in the tournament.

    http://www.thefa.com/England/MensUnder17s/NewsAndFeatures/2009/Euros_EnglandTurkey_report.aspx

    Another dirty foul by Germany...
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:45 pm

    Castaignos, should have score after a good attack, but his strike hits the crossbar
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:46 pm

    Dutch goalie fucks up 2-0 Germany
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 5:57 pm

    Finally a card for a German player after another sick foul in a match about nothing. Should have been red for trinks.
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    Post by SuperMario Tue May 12, 2009 6:27 pm

    England miss out on U17 WC after losing 1-0 v Turkey.

    SFs: Germany v Italy & Holland v Switzerlaned
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    Post by chrissicross Wed May 13, 2009 11:46 am

    Do the Italiens have a strong U17 team? The final table of group A looks a bit odd to me...
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    Post by SuperMario Wed May 13, 2009 12:24 pm

    They managed to keep to draw 0-0 v Spain by parking the bus, lost v the Swiss after their goalie was sent off, but bounced back by beating France.

    Think their main problem is their manager being a coward & only allows them to go forward when there's no other option. My gut feeling tells me there's far more football in that team.
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    Post by bluenine Wed May 13, 2009 4:05 pm

    De Guzman wrote:50' Spain - Switzerland 0-0
    50' France - Italy 1-2

    live table:

    1. Switzerland 3-5 4-2
    2. Italy 3-4 3-4
    3. Spain 3-3 0-0
    4. France 3-2 2-3

    I honestly did not expect Italy to make the semi's... U17 is too young for Italy, the kids haven't mastered the tactical skills yet which make Italians so good.

    On a side note, finally Salerno plays Dell'Agnello, and he scores!! This kid has a bright future... Salerno needs to start young Dell'Agnello in the semi's, hope he has learnt his lesson.

    But I think the hosts Germany will be too much for these young Italian kids...
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    Post by bluenine Wed May 13, 2009 4:11 pm

    De Guzman wrote:They managed to keep to draw 0-0 v Spain by parking the bus, lost v the Swiss after their goalie was sent off, but bounced back by beating France.

    Think their main problem is their manager being a coward & only allows them to go forward when there's no other option. My gut feeling tells me there's far more football in that team.
    Salerno got the line up right against France, hope he does not make any changes to this one now.

    That said, the hosts are clear favourites against Italy IMO. Italian kids develop late, and U21 is the championship where they start performing upto scratch. All U17 kids in Italy play in the U17 league, and do not get promoted to the primavera early- which is of a much higher standard. So these kids are not yet exposed to quality games. I don't know how it is in other countries, but I think most countries promote their exceptional talents much quicker than in Italy.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Thu May 14, 2009 12:18 am

    This is great. A group of Germany, England, Holland and the Turks, all "rivals" in their own special way, and the youngsters win every match. Very Happy

    Good luck against Italy guys, but so far, it has been a pretty impressive run.
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    Post by debaser Thu May 14, 2009 12:40 am

    Yo Blut, long time no see wave
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    Post by SuperMario Thu May 14, 2009 2:31 pm

    schoen guten morgen blut!
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    Post by SuperMario Fri May 15, 2009 9:54 am

    SF Day starts in about 5 minutes, streams for Holland v v Swiss:

    http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=39553&part=sports
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    Post by SuperMario Fri May 15, 2009 10:20 am

    17' Holland v Switzerland 1-0 cheers
    17' Isoufi 1-0 (assist Ozyakup)
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    Post by SuperMario Fri May 15, 2009 10:41 am

    Castaignos 0-2 cheers

    HT Switzerland - Holland 0-2

    Best match by Holland so far.
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri May 15, 2009 10:43 am

    De Guzman wrote:Castaignos 0-2 cheers

    HT Switzerland - Holland 0-2

    Best match by Holland so far.

    Didn't look like it was over the line IMO...
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    Post by SuperMario Fri May 15, 2009 10:45 am

    It wasn't. Who cares. Castaignos deserved a goal anyway. He's playing well all tourney.
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Fri May 15, 2009 11:01 am

    Decent match so far. Holland began quite well and deservedly took the lead. Switzerland much improved thereafter with two very good chances to score. Unlucky second goal.

    2 and a half chances for Holland - two goals. Seems you Dutchies took lessons from ze Germans in efficiency.

    Anyway.

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    Post by Axeslammer Fri May 15, 2009 11:12 am

    Swiss with a deserved goal : 2-1

    Feyenoord under pressure !

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