U21 FINAL Holland v Serbia 23/6 19.45 BST / 20.45 CET

Don't fancy Holland's chances. Serbia play like a mature team; Holland is more about enthousiasm & that moronic manager still doesn't play our best player Luigi Bruins. Hope at least Beerens starts ahead of DDR.

But undoubtedly the best two teams of the competition

Last month, when I had talked about the Serbs going all the way, there were a lot of unbelievers... now, there is a 50% chance of that happening!!

I am very impressed with some of their players... specially Jankovic, what a player.... loved one of his runs today, where he almost scored. Definately one to watch out for the future...

I think Mallorca are going to get some big offers for this lad this summer!!

I see the Serbs winning. Despite being lucky against Belgium and being c**ts in general, they are a very good football team and dont play like under 21s at all. Their number 9 is a monster also.

u forget domestic ground factor...but i have hope in this serbian team...either way win or lose its a great success for a small country with a football league not even in top 10 european...

Serbia is more organised and teh socalled Oranje A-team at this tournie is nothing less than our B/c team in fact.
Vlaar won't play in the final; the keepers De Haan prefers are both mediocre and some of those kids simply aren't good enough (Kruiswijk, Pieters, Medunjanin, Bakkal, De Ridder). Until the game against the English we've been able to bypass these lesser players, but against the defending English they were exposed.

Serbia's midfield >>>>>>>>>>> Oranje's midfield

Their defense is also better, and their A team are really accustomed to each other and play quite fluidly.

selpy wrote:u forget domestic ground factor...but i have hope in this serbian team...either way win or lose its a great success for a small country with a football league not even in top 10 european...

I expect the Serbs to win it and have no problem with it : they have been the best team in the competition so far

I am praying though that, just like last year, Holland has saved it's finest football for the last match

anybody else on here disappointed with the Dutch home support so far

otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:anybody else on here disappointed with the Dutch home support so far

U21 in Germany = 80,000 spectators

U21 in Holland = more than 200,000 spectators

Yeah, it's a real letdown...

Vlaar is out for the final.

source (in Dutch):

http://www.feyenoord.nl/pages/newsdetail.aspx?contentcode=20070621VLAARMISTFINALE

Skomina to ref final

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/under21/news/kind=1/newsid=553896.html

Vlaar wsnt that good anyway i didnt think, seemed to be a bit "aggressive" and was slow as hell.

otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:anybody else on here disappointed with the Dutch home support so far

Never there was more support for a youth European Championships than this year in the Netherlands....

THe Dutch beat any record AGAIN! Just like the Youth World Cup in the Netherlands 2 years ago!


And the Dutch organised the most successful, profitable championships with the Euro 2000.

Otto, Otto... when you are going to learn something....

Ricardo Jol wrote:

otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:anybody else on here disappointed with the Dutch home support so far

Never there was more support for a youth European Championships than this year in the Netherlands....

THe Dutch beat any record AGAIN! Just like the Youth World Cup in the Netherlands 2 years ago!


And the Dutch organised the most successful, profitable championships with the Euro 2000.

Otto, Otto... when you are going to learn something....

I think its been really good in Holland, they were clever in their allocations of tickets to grounds, not like the Germans.

Talent wise this Holland squad is far less than last year. Especially when you take into account that: Afellay, Aissati, Emanuelsson, Schaars, Vlaar are being missed.

This team is however, physically stronger and they are more a team than last year...

For the first time I see a Dutch team that is physically one of the strongest team. Most of the times we can only line up midgets and sissies. I don't think Oranje won't have a chance to win it again! They have to play a bit more on ball possesion and more relaxed than in the terrible game against England...

I am Dad-Ra wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:

otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:anybody else on here disappointed with the Dutch home support so far

Never there was more support for a youth European Championships than this year in the Netherlands....

THe Dutch beat any record AGAIN! Just like the Youth World Cup in the Netherlands 2 years ago!


And the Dutch organised the most successful, profitable championships with the Euro 2000.

Otto, Otto... when you are going to learn something....

I think its been really good in Holland, they were clever in their allocations of tickets to grounds, not like the Germans.

Also Euro 2000 was with the Belgians, so dont take all the credit

It was.... So it could have been even better

Ricardo Jol wrote:It was.... So it could have been even better

fine, but when we get the world cup we take ALL the credit ok?!

The tickets for the final were all sold out in 74 seconds!!!

Is it me or are the odds for a Serbia win (11/4 - 3/1 cq 3.75 - 4) ridiculously good?

I put some money on Serbia. By the way don't blame me if you follow my example & loose.

ORANJE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TATARATATATAAAA!!!! AANVALLUH!!!

hope both teams play an open game( highly unlikely)

i think serbia will win

Serbia will win, all Dutchies know that already and have no problem with it.
Our future is bright and has always been bright - the kids at the Oranje ECU21 aren't even our best kids. Of the kids we sent to the EC, only Aissati, Babel and Drenthe could make a claim to be in the real oranje XI U21 squad.

I'm going for a Serb win too, I've picked 7 Serbs for my FF team.

Line-ups:

Kahriman
Rukavina Ivanovic D Tosic Kolarov
Smiljanic Drincic Basta Milovanovic Jankovic
Rakic

Babel Rigters
Bakkal
Drenthe De Ridder
Maduro
Pieters Donk Kruiswijk Zuiverloon
Waterman

Bold players are my FF team (Jankovic captain, Bakkal on bench). My prediction 3-0 to Serbia

jonathan de guzman wrote:Line-ups:

Kahriman
Rukavina Ivanovic D Tosic Kolarov
Smiljanic Drincic Basta Milovanovic Jankovic
Rakic

Babel Rigters
Bakkal
Drenthe De Ridder
Maduro
Pieters Donk Kruiswijk Zuiverloon
Waterman

Bold players are my FF team (Jankovic captain, Bakkal on bench). My prediction 3-0 to Serbia

we have near on identical teams for FF

jonathan de guzman wrote:Line-ups:

Kahriman
Rukavina Ivanovic D Tosic Kolarov
Smiljanic Drincic Basta Milovanovic Jankovic
Rakic

Babel Rigters
Bakkal
Drenthe De Ridder
Maduro
Pieters Donk Kruiswijk Zuiverloon
Waterman

Bold players are my FF team (Jankovic captain, Bakkal on bench). My prediction 3-0 to Serbia

I forgot my team wait I'll look it up.