Die Bundesliga 2011 Summer Transfer Thread

kas wrote:Pogrebnyak to Stuttgart is official:
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-europerussiapogrebnyak&prov=reuters&type=lgns

Any idea what the transfer fee is?

Around €10m, according to the German press.

Antarion wrote:Dzeko extended his contract for another 2 years up until 2013 in wolfsburg.

Very good news for Wolfsburg. Dzeko is a class player, and he is still young and has huge potential.

Wolfsburg have a class team, and they have the money to keep it together and further improve it, like they actually did this summer. It won't be easy for the 'established' Bundesliga top clubs to keep them in check.

Misimovic-Grafite-Dzeko

Wolfsburg's holy trinity.

Calidad wrote:Misimovic-Grafite-Dzeko

Wolfsburg's holy trinity.

martins

whats his position, a mix between winger and striker!!

Özil wrote:

martins

whats his position

Speedy Gonzales on the break

blutgraetsche wrote:

kas wrote:Pogrebnyak to Stuttgart is official:
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-europerussiapogrebnyak&prov=reuters&type=lgns

Any idea what the transfer fee is?

Around €10m, according to the German press.

They should have signed Pavlyuchenko instead.

Btw, had to laugh though when I read the thoughts of a Bayern supporter about Pogrebnyak the other day...

Pog kann man am ehesten mit Kuranyi vergleichen. Ein Holzfuß, der im Kopfball nicht schlecht ist, dafür aber auch gelegentlich etliche Chancen liegen lässt.

Pog ist mit Sicherheit kein Hammer für die Bundesliga. Er ist ein ordentlicher Stürmer, kaum über Kuranyi zu stellen und ist mit Sicherheit auch nicht der beste russische Stürmer.

Wer mit Kuranyi seine Probleme hat, wird mit Pog die selben Probleme haben.

Da kann Stuttgart auch gleich an Kuranyi baggern.

Da sein Vertrag in diesem Winter ausläuft, wäre eine Ablöse Jenseits von 7-8 Mio. ein Witz.

Ich würde abraten ihn zu holen, im Unterschied zu ihm, konnte Gomez auch den Ball annehmen und weiterleiten bzw. abschirmen, da wird Pog seine Probleme haben.

Well, he isn't that wrong, isn't he?

Hleb is a great signing though.

I can't agree with that Bayern fan. Pogrebnyak's first touch is not as bad as he believes, and his finishing is actually better than Kurany's. If anything, he appears to be 'lazy' sometimes, is not such a hard worker like Pavlyuchenko. But he definitely is one of the best Russian strikers.

Pog is Huntelaar with a bit more power & less finesse... i.e. I don't like him.

Anyone know who that journalist was that asked the quastion about Mueller/Toni to van Gaal? Thanx for any info. Want to sent the guy a present.

Nobody seems to know unfortunately, every report I read only mentions 'a journalist'. But there will be more drama to come, that's guaranteed.

Like I say, I think Martins is very much a central striker - I don't think he can play as a wing-forward, as one of the wide players in a 4-3-3. We tried him as a wing-forward on a number of occasions, and he never looked good as one, though admittedly he played out wide mostly under Allardyce when the whole team was a mess and lacked structure, and he tended to play on the right, whereas I think he'd be a little better suited to the left.

Ultimately, he just knows how to play as a central striker; he doesn't run the flanks particularly well, nor does he have the vision or the crossing ability to supply people from out wide, and he isn't good at dribbling down alleys, in enclosed spaces; he is better occupying two centre backs than one full back, holding up the ball and stretching defences from a central position. He is more a Drogba than a Rooney or an Arshavin or a Messi or whomever; he worked best for us in a 4-3-3 when he played at the head of the formation; in a 4-4-2, I think ideally, he'd play slightly ahead of his partner rather than behind him, though I think he should be able to complement Dzeko or Grafite really well.

blutgraetsche wrote:Nobody seems to know unfortunately, every report I read only mentions 'a journalist'. But there will be more drama to come, that's guaranteed.

What was said ?

I like van Gaal but hopefully Dortmund wins the league.

My favourite German team since I was about 11 or 12 and I got a "501 German Goals" Video for my birthday - there were loads on there from this man:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Zorc

Pierre Littbarski wrote:
What was said ?

The journalist asked why youngster Müller started in the friendly against Milan a few days ago, instead of Luca Toni, and if he is ahead of him in the pecking order now. Van Gaal, who was in a very good mood up to this point, Bayern had just spanked Milan 4-1, got angry and told him that he expects journalists to be professional enough to know why Toni couldn't play (he was injured). Then the Bayern press officer tried to explain why, but Van Gaal didn't allow him to, "he should know that" he said. Angry Van Gaal left the press conference after that.

blutgraetsche wrote:

Antarion wrote:Dzeko extended his contract for another 2 years up until 2013 in wolfsburg.

Very good news for Wolfsburg. Dzeko is a class player, and he is still young and has huge potential.

Wolfsburg have a class team, and they have the money to keep it together and further improve it, like they actually did this summer. It won't be easy for the 'established' Bundesliga top clubs to keep them in check.

Not seen a huge amount of him, but the few times I've seen him he's looked very good. Impressive International goalscoring record too. 2nd most prolific in Europe, behind Rooney in the qualifiers so far I believe

blutgraetsche wrote:Nobody seems to know unfortunately, every report I read only mentions 'a journalist'. But there will be more drama to come, that's guaranteed.

for sure lloking forward to it. they should broadcast all press conferences live and have a weekly award for who's able to piss off van Gaal most. Goldene Wohnwagen or something like that...

Bundesliga, 02.08.2009
Der Wechsel von Pogrebnyak ist perfekt

Der russische Angreifer Pavel Pogrebnyak wechselt mit sofortiger Wirkung von Zenit St. Petersburg zum VfB.
Der 25-jährige Nationalspieler unterschrieb am Sonntag im VfB-Clubhaus einen Dreijahresvertrag.

Am heutigen Vormittag bestand der 1,88 m große Stürmer die sportmedizinische Untersuchung bei den Teamärzten Dr. Raymond Best und Dr. Heiko Striegel, was den Weg für die Vertragsunterzeichnung endgültig frei machte. Danach flog Pogrebnyak noch einmal zur Erledigung einiger Formalien in sein Heimatland zurück. Er wird voraussichtlich am Dienstag wieder in Stuttgart zurück sein und ab dann mit der Mannschaft trainieren.

http://vfb.de/de/aktuell/news/2009/32406.php

Now that our website has confirmed it... Welcome, Pavel! May you fare as well as your Mexican namesake did.

PS: Chrissi, dat Kefffin schafft aber auch seine 12-15 Tore pro Saison, von daher ist mir das relativ egal, wenn die sich ähnlich sind.

Stuttgart sporting director Heldt told the press that they paid "less than €5m" for Pogrebnyak.

http://www.11freunde.de/bundesligen/122328/ein_bisschen_gomez

Very good deal.

Maybe it's just 5m up front and then a large amount in conditions. ie. if they qualify for the CL next month, then another 5m?

Its 4.5 m apparently.

No. It's because Pogrebnyak's contract in Petersburg expires in 6 months. So just "less than €5m", with no bonuses.

Still think it's a very good deal, if you consider that we (=Werder) pay Donezk €2m just for the loan of Moreno.

4.5, 4.0 million... Who cares - at least it's not the 10 everyone was talking about on Saturday! And for once, we're in the comfortable position of being able to not care much about the "number behind the comma", as we say in German.

That's an amazing deal then...why not just buy Hleb outright

Money in the bank for one more striker? A "Made in Russia" partnership perhaps, once Spurs have bought Huntelaar?

anglophileHedgehog wrote:4.5, 4.0 million... Who cares - at least it's not the 10 everyone was talking about on Saturday! And for once, we're in the comfortable position of being able to not care much about the "number behind the comma", as we say in German.

I already thought it was a good deal at 10M

Well done Stuttgart

@kas:
If you lot let him go and he does well for us this season, why not?

Vagner Loooooooove or Pavluchenko, hmmmmm....


@axe:
Thank you!

kas wrote:That's an amazing deal then...why not just buy Hleb outright

Money in the bank for one more striker? A "Made in Russia" partnership perhaps, once Spurs have bought Huntelaar?

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10m for 6 month for the Russian Kuranyi would have been rather expensive imo, 4-5 is okay though I think.

On the other side he earns 4m Euro per year at Stuttgart, far too much if you ask me.

We paid 2m for one year Moreno, but then again he only earns ~1.5m Euro per year.

I don't know where you get this "Russian Kuranyi" from. He was devastating at times for Zenit, strong in the air, a physically imposing target man, can hit it with both feet from longer and shorter distances and take decent free-kicks. You confusing him with someone else?

Try reading page 19, Allez.

I think Pog is a decent striker, but nothing special. He's overhyped imo and Stuttgart could have done better, and 4m per year is far too expensive.

Well, maybe he will prove me wrong, and make me look like an idiot once more, but until then I stick with opinion about Kuranyi reloaded.

After Grafite and Dzeko extended their contracts in Wolfsburg recently, it's now Misimovic's turn. He just extended his contract until 2013.

http://www.sportbild.de/sportbild/generated/article/fussball/2009/08/04/13448000000.html


The league's top assister last season. Quality player, and the 'brain' of Wolfsburg's game.