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    Post by Jaime Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:57 pm

    Because there is only one position in which Sneijder has shown any competence. If you want him for the wing you might as well put Faubert and that is not an exaggeration. Parejo is much more competent as CM and that is his natural position. And for the wider attacking positions, Robben can go to the right or C. Ronaldo. Sneijder has proven he can't.
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:04 pm

    Jaime wrote:Because there is only one position in which Sneijder has shown any competence. If you want him for the wing you might as well put Faubert and that is not an exaggeration. Parejo is much more competent as CM and that is his natural position. And for the wider attacking positions, Robben can go to the right or C. Ronaldo. Sneijder has proven he can't.
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    Post by King Modric Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:10 pm

    I disagree. First of all Parejo hasn't played in any pressure matches for us and until he does I don't think he can be judged to be good enough or not. IMO the best thing for him would be to loan him out and let him get some first team playing time with a Getafe or the like. Second, I think that Sneijder can play as a backup in those roles. Certainly in CM with Kaka and Ronaldo acting as the primary threats I think he can hold the fort. I really do think that he can be more than just Kaka's backup even if that's his primary role. He's versatile enough to do other things if the need arises. If Granero was recalled I would let Sneijder go but that doesn't seem to be in the plans.
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    Post by elbecko Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:21 pm

    King Pipita wrote:I disagree. First of all Parejo hasn't played in any pressure matches for us and until he does I don't think he can be judged to be good enough or not. IMO the best thing for him would be to loan him out and let him get some first team playing time with a Getafe or the like. Second, I think that Sneijder can play as a backup in those roles. Certainly in CM with Kaka and Ronaldo acting as the primary threats I think he can hold the fort. I really do think that he can be more than just Kaka's backup even if that's his primary role. He's versatile enough to do other things if the need arises. If Granero was recalled I would let Sneijder go but that doesn't seem to be in the plans.
    I don't think the midget (or any other Dutch except for RvN and Drenthe) would be happy to be a "sub" when the WC is approaching...
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    Post by King Modric Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:30 pm

    If that's the case he can go. But he's said that he wants to fight for his place and if he's willing to do that, I'd keep him. I'm not really averse to selling any of our non-starting XI so long as we're not getting ripped off.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:14 am

    Has he signed yet?
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    Post by Batman Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:07 am

    Ribery: I want to go to Madrid, everyone else is doing it Sad
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:08 am

    Maybe we should just close down football and form one global club called 'Real Madrid' that everyone can play for?
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    Post by Torrente Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:13 am

    Batman wrote:Ribery: I want to go to Madrid, everyone else is doing it Sad

    I would prefer it if he goes to ManU. We don't need Ribery and he's way too expensive.

    When will that Scottish drunken coach of yours wake up from his alcoholic haze and start signing people? If you tried hard enough you could have gotten one of Benzema or Ribery, and instead you got some mediocre Wigan player.
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    Post by Batman Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:19 am

    Torrente wrote:
    Batman wrote:Ribery: I want to go to Madrid, everyone else is doing it Sad

    I would prefer it if he goes to ManU. We don't need Ribery and he's way too expensive.

    When will that Scottish drunken coach of yours wake up from his alcoholic haze and start signing people? If you tried hard enough you could have gotten one of Benzema or Ribery, and instead you got some mediocre Wigan player.

    I would rather have Valencia for £16m than Ribery for around £40m.
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    Post by Torrente Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:26 am

    Batman wrote:
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    Batman wrote:Ribery: I want to go to Madrid, everyone else is doing it Sad

    I would prefer it if he goes to ManU. We don't need Ribery and he's way too expensive.

    When will that Scottish drunken coach of yours wake up from his alcoholic haze and start signing people? If you tried hard enough you could have gotten one of Benzema or Ribery, and instead you got some mediocre Wigan player.

    I would rather have Valencia for £16m than Ribery for around £40m.

    I think you would be much better off with Ribery even at that price. At least those 40 million would come from a ridiculous transfer fee that Real Madrid gave you and ManU would get one of the best players in the world. Is Valencia really more than just a decent squad player? I think you have enough of those. What you need is to buy 1 or 2 stars IMO.
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    Post by DS Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:39 am

    40 m on a 26 year old who may not adapt in England is risky, 2ndly he doesnt solve any of our problems of goal scoring.
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:41 am

    Neither does Valencia though?
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    Post by DS Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:44 am

    But solves our wing problem for fraction that much, is still 23 and has played in EPL for 3 seasons.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:46 am

    Valencia is more of a Park replacement, who'll be Madrid's next signing to crack the Asian market.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:48 am

    De Guzman wrote:So what the latest when it comes to departure rumours?

    Real are desperately trying to involve Sneijder in all kinds of deals (AC Milan, Bayern) or selling him flat out.


    ....yet the Midget won't be treated like merchandise : he's given Real the finger and says he refuses to move cheers

    VDV might be doing the same thing Laugh
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    Post by DS Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:49 am

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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:51 am

    Axeslammer wrote:
    De Guzman wrote:So what the latest when it comes to departure rumours?

    Real are desperately trying to involve Sneijder in all kinds of deals (AC Milan, Bayern) or selling him flat out.


    ....yet the Midget won't be treated like merchandise : he's given Real the finger and says he refuses to move cheers

    VDV might be doing the same thing Laugh

    Moves to AC Milan for both of them could be very productive.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:53 am

    * for the Milan circus
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    Post by fcb Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:54 am

    Axeslammer wrote:
    De Guzman wrote:So what the latest when it comes to departure rumours?

    Real are desperately trying to involve Sneijder in all kinds of deals (AC Milan, Bayern) or selling him flat out.


    ....yet the Midget won't be treated like merchandise : he's given Real the finger and says he refuses to move cheers

    VDV might be doing the same thing Laugh


    Madrid can force them into a move by not registering them. Unlike other leagues, Spain has a restriction of 25 names per club for the first team. You can only bolster it by youth team players, up to a max. of 10 appearances per season. The worst Sneijder and VDV can do is force Madrid to still pay their high wages while they're on loan.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:10 pm

    kas wrote:
    Madrid can force them into a move by not registering them.

    So what, still can't *make* 'm play for another team.
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    Post by Torrente Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:21 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    kas wrote:
    Madrid can force them into a move by not registering them.

    So what, still can't *make* 'm play for another team.

    But this is a world cup year though. Players like Sneijder and VDV may play cute in the beginning but as the tranfer window closes and the club makes it clear that they are not needed I'm sure they will change their minds.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:56 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:
    kas wrote:
    Madrid can force them into a move by not registering them.

    So what, still can't *make* 'm play for another team.

    But this is a world cup year though. Players like Sneijder and VDV may play cute in the beginning but as the tranfer window closes and the club makes it clear that they are not needed I'm sure they will change their minds.

    Nah, don't think so : Van Marwijk has already made his mind up about the players he's gonna use and he cares fuck all of they play for club or not.

    Van Marwijk is a tactical disaster, but he's very clear in selecting players and giving them confidence Ale

    We might even go to the WC with fresh and uninjured players, instead of tired ones with lots of little pains cheers
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    Post by fcb Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:00 pm

    Don't worry Axe, even if they stay at Madrid they'll be free of any fatigue or niggles, because they'll always be on the bench anyway Laughing
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    Post by elbecko Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:47 pm

    kas wrote:Don't worry Axe, even if they stay at Madrid they'll be free of any fatigue or niggles, because they'll always be on the bench anyway Laughing
    Well, any player could get injured during training. Laughing (In Robben's case, warm-ups or even turning up to training ground could trigger an injury. Whistle)

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