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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:39 pm

    L-r d wrote:Youngster number 135 for Benitez. And still hasnt found one half as good as a Pique or Rossi or Macheda or Drinkwater

    how many appearances have these players made for Manchester United scratch

    not as many as Insua has for Liverpool I'd guess.

    How many years was Ferguson at Manchester United before his youngsters started getting into the first team?

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    Post by L r dd Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:46 pm

    So Insua is the best he's got. Nice. I think somebody in the Italian team, a guy who just won the champions league starring in the final, a 17 yr old who played a huge role in winning the premiership and players liek rafael and fabio somehow show a lot better than Insua. Just a thought though.

    Im not sure Glenn but his record with youngsters is pretty damn good. He didn't need to sign 135 for one moderate 'success' called Insua though Ale

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    Post by Football Genius Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:55 pm

    You lot do realise Benitez has taken a butchers knife to the academy / youth team in the last month or so?

    He recognised it wasn't developing the younger players, so he has addressed it and brought in his own people.

    I'd expect within the next 3 years you'll see the fruition of these changes.

    Rafa does have youth team pedigree with Real Madrid, and whilst he is now a spent force, he did get the nod to bring Raul in and develop the player through super successfully for their Youth team to senior squad, as just one example of how he has managed to develop talented young players.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:07 pm

    Football Genius wrote:You lot do realise Benitez has taken a butchers knife to the academy / youth team in the last month or so?

    He recognised it wasn't developing the younger players, so he has addressed it and brought in barca youth coaches

    I'd expect within the next 3 years you'll see the fruition of these changes.

    Rafa does have youth team pedigree with Real Madrid, and whilst he is now a spent force, he did get the nod to bring Raul in and develop the player through super successfully for their Youth team to senior squad, as just one example of how he has managed to develop talented young players.
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:34 pm

    Conspiracy Theorist wrote:
    Super Real Ronaldo wrote:
    Conspiracy Theorist wrote:
    Kevin Perineum wrote:Mascherano isn't irreplaceable, but there isn't a player I think would be an improvement, unlike most other positions of the team when we have sold a player it has been to replace him with someone better.

    The club said he' not for sale, which seems pretty final to me.

    My only real question is: how much of the £330m that Gillette just reaped will be made available to Rafa for transfers?

    My guess is, all of it.

    Biggrin

    Well the Yanks are just about to announce that their loan has been refinanced so he can use all of this on some lovely new players for the team.

    A double Villa and Silva swoop will do nicely
    I simply don't understand why Liverpool fans want Villa or any striker. Where will Gerrard play? Benitez has finally found the perfect position for him and then he is supposed to switch him on the wing? Because putting him in central midfield hasn't proven to work so far. The 4-2-3-1 seems to be the one to go with but then again I have only heard fans really want another striker and not Benitez.

    Sorry if you took that as a serious comment Super

    You should take a look at the posters infesting the thread before making a judgement on a post Wink
    Oh ok but it really was a question based not just on your post but the thoughts of several Liverpool supporters. What do you think? Don't agree a two striker solution isn't the right way to go?
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    Post by COTR Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:43 pm

    Super Real Ronaldo wrote:
    Oh ok but it really was a question based not just on your post but the thoughts of several Liverpool supporters. What do you think? Don't agree a two striker solution isn't the right way to go?

    There are worse things than having the two best strikers in the world in your team but there is little point breaking up a winning formula so all we want is a good backup for Torres. If we were United or Chelsea and could afford to have £30m subs then he would be top of the list but we'll have to survive without him I think
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:29 am

    LFC APPOINTS MANAGING DIRECTOR
    Paul Eaton 22 June 2009

    Liverpool FC Co-Chairmen, George Gillett and Tom Hicks, today announced the appointment of Christian Purslow as Managing Director of the Club.
    Christian Purslow will assume overall management of the Club until the appointment of a new Chief Executive, and will then continue as a Board Director. As Managing Director, Purslow will represent the owners and oversee all financial and operational aspects of the Club, working with Rafa Benitez on player transfers and with the Club's Group Chief Financial Officer, Philip Nash and Commercial Director, Ian Ayre on Club and commercial management.

    George Gillett said: "Tom and I felt that it was important to put a highly experienced and respected executive in place to run the Club and support the senior team and the Manager. There's a lot to get done over the summer to build on the great season we just had and Christian will be a valuable addition to the team."

    Tom Hicks added: "Christian has been a great supporter of the Club for many years and he's already built up good relationships at Anfield. His strategic and commercial acumen will be a real asset and we're delighted that he has made a long term commitment to the Club."

    Christian Purslow, 45, a long time Liverpool season ticket holder, is an Executive Board member of MidOcean Partners, a private equity firm which he co-founded. He was previously a director of Morgan Grenfell Private Equity. Prior to his private equity career Purslow was Head of Media, Cable and Entertainment for Schroder Salomon Smith Barney in Europe and head of UK Mergers and Acquisitions for Credit Suisse First Boston. Purslow is a fluent Spanish speaker, has a modern Languages degree from Cambridge University and an MBA from Harvard Business School.

    Executive search firm Odgers Berndtson is conducting the CEO recruitment process and an appointment will be made in due course.
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:32 am

    If anybody fancies a laugh the read the below;

    http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5393991,00.html

    Gotta love todays journalism, just days after Torres is quoted as 'not going anywhere' Gillet having made £300+m, and complete lack of sources or direct quotes.

    Still made me laugh this morning Very Happy
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    Post by Guest Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:01 pm

    cadiz youth coach, gives an interview about suso

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2009/06/22/1340422/exclusive-liverpool-have-signed-a-jewel-in-suso-cadiz-youth
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:00 pm

    LFC Exclusive!!! Breaking Transfer News at 6pm only on LFC TV.

    http://twitter.com/LFCTV
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    Post by COTR Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:01 pm

    Football Genius wrote:LFC Exclusive!!! Breaking Transfer News at 6pm only on LFC TV.

    http://twitter.com/LFCTV

    Johnson has been confirmed


    Silva will follow in a couple of weeks ok
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:04 pm

    Were they to embarrassed to reveal the price?
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    Post by Jaime Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:04 pm

    Conspiracy Theorist wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:LFC Exclusive!!! Breaking Transfer News at 6pm only on LFC TV.

    http://twitter.com/LFCTV

    Johnson has been confirmed


    Silva will follow in a couple of weeks ok

    You really want a one legged geezer?
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    Post by COTR Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:05 pm

    L-r d wrote:Were they to embarrassed to reveal the price?

    Why would they want to reveal the price scratch
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:05 pm

    L-r d wrote:Were they to embarrassed to reveal the price?

    From what i've read, its Portsmouth who wish to remain 'coy' over the price.

    Presumably don't want a backlash when the fans find out they haven't and won't recieve £17m in their coffers.
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:06 pm

    Conspiracy Theorist wrote:
    L-r d wrote:Were they to embarrassed to reveal the price?

    Why would they want to reveal the price scratch

    Why not scratch Ronaldo for 80 was widely reported by both clubs...why are Liverpool hiding scratch
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    Post by DS Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:07 pm

    17 m was agreed, Chelsea had a similar bid so we can assume it is near that.
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:13 pm

    DS wrote:17 m was agreed, Chelsea had a similar bid so we can assume it is near that.

    Chelsea were offering hard up cash, whereas we are due monies from Pompey for Crouch which Portsmouth have suggested in reports is part of the deal.

    Never the less, i'm chuffed to bits we've completed his signing whatever the cost!

    Now for the next transfer! Which i assume will be an attacking player!

    Woooooooo great summer so far, Mancs loseing two of their key players... and we've addressed one weak area, now just to sure up the attack!

    cheers

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    Can't wait for 09/10 season.
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    Post by DS Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:16 pm

    It is still 17 m or it would just mean you sold Crouch for alot less.


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    Post by L r dd Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:16 pm

    Well you have 15 mill max to spend. we have 115 mill. So i hope you spend it wisely.
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    Post by COTR Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:17 pm

    L-r d wrote:Well you have 15 mill max to spend. we have 115 mill. So i hope you spend it wisely.

    lol!


    How the hell do you know Lrd

    I'm guessing it is closer to £25m than £15m, after some players are sold of course
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:20 pm

    L-r d wrote:Well you have 15 mill max to spend. we have 115 mill. So i hope you spend it wisely.

    Laugh

    Been on the Red Cafe then i take it... £115m to spend lol!

    In any case, feel free to shoot your load over another Berbashite.

    Your squad looks very thin now, you've got like what one recognised winger? and your strongest midfield comprises the creativity of Carrick and Fletcher, with what Nani on the left? - that heroic signing Berbatov and Rooney upfront all season.

    Gee WHAT a team, wish i were a United fan Wink
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:23 pm

    Just a rough estimate mate. Guess 15-25 if you get enough or manage to get rid of Arbeloa and Dossena. Maybe 40 odd when Masch leaves.

    @ FG why not? We got 80 mill for Ronaldo. Didn't get Tevez for the 25 mill and going to sell a few others for 20 ish. That's a lot of money for transfers waiting around.

    And Tosic Nani Park are all wingers.
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    Post by COTR Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:25 pm

    L-r d wrote:Just a rough estimate mate. Guess 15-25 if you get enough or manage to get rid of Arbeloa and Dossena. Maybe 40 odd when Masch leaves.

    @ FG why not? We got 80 mill for Ronaldo. Didn't get Tevez for the 25 mill and going to sell a few others for 20 ish. That's a lot of money for transfers waiting around.

    And Tosic Nani Park are all wingers.

    Rafa has said Mascha will not be sold for anything less than £50m so you can bump it up to £75m if he does leave

    Cheers Lrd <Ale>
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:29 pm

    L-r d wrote:Just a rough estimate mate. Guess 15-25 if you get enough or manage to get rid of Arbeloa and Dossena. Maybe 40 odd when Masch leaves.

    @ FG why not? We got 80 mill for Ronaldo. Didn't get Tevez for the 25 mill and going to sell a few others for 20 ish. That's a lot of money for transfers waiting around.

    And Tosic Nani Park are all wingers.


    Well firstly Ronaldo has not been sold, so you actually don't have anything from him 'yet' - secondly the transfer fee will be stagnated through installments which i've read to be in the region of £15m per year, so if you do indeed have £25m lying around for Tevez, thats a sum total of £40m you have to spend, to buy a winger (perhaps two) a striker and a central midfielder.

    Good Luck Ale
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:33 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    L-r d wrote:Just a rough estimate mate. Guess 15-25 if you get enough or manage to get rid of Arbeloa and Dossena. Maybe 40 odd when Masch leaves.

    @ FG why not? We got 80 mill for Ronaldo. Didn't get Tevez for the 25 mill and going to sell a few others for 20 ish. That's a lot of money for transfers waiting around.

    And Tosic Nani Park are all wingers.


    Well firstly Ronaldo has not been sold, so you actually don't have anything from him 'yet' - secondly the transfer fee will be stagnated through installments which i've read to be in the region of £15m per year, so if you do indeed have £25m lying around for Tevez, thats a sum total of £40m you have to spend, to buy a winger (perhaps two) a striker and a central midfielder.

    Good Luck Ale

    Doh You don't think when Man Utd buy players they pay in installments? There is 100 mill+ to spend whether Fergie decides to use ti all is his choice.

    @ COTR well that is a good price to start of negotiations but i am sure it iwll go down a fair deal.

    Have a nice day chaps.
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:41 pm

    Laughing

    Its great reading the niave beliefs some of these mancs have based on very poor business acumen.

    @ LRD - We'll wait until August and see how much of your £115m you get through...

    I suppose what you could do is finance other players reflecting the installments Ronaldo's fee generates, i.e Ribery for £50m 3 years of £15m+ installments, however you' have to accept that for 3 years Ronaldo's money has been eaten up, and this is based on the selling club accepting this agreement and should Chelsea or City steam in with a all cash offer, which one would you accept?

    However you're heavy investment in the squad in recent years coupled with the fact your £800m in debt, operating at a loss and are due to pay over £150 back to the bank in a couple of years, leads me to hazard a suggestion that the club will be tightening their purse strings over the next couple of years. Unless of course you think those generous glazers who bough a club who had no debt through loans and shifted that debt onto the club to excess of £800m will dig deep into their pockets and pay £150m

    Wheres the money coming from?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:44 pm

    Nernernernernernernernernani
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    Post by Historicus Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:44 pm

    Manchester United: Selling Club Ale
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:47 pm

    The debt is around 500 million according to David Gill. When Man Utd buy players they always pay in installments and usually have performence or trophy based clauses also attached. With the knowledge that 80 mill is coming in and the Glazers stating that all of it will be made avaliable to Fergie for transfers i am sure spending 100 odd mill this summer wouldn't surprise many at all. Not that i want Fergie to spend that much.

    The only person being naive FG is you if you believe 40 mill is all Man Utd have to spend. Despite spending 40 mill per season without selling 100 mill worth of players.

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