Pierre's Dossier 2009/2010

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Puro wrote:Fuck they're far worse than the ones from Perú, and that's saying something.

You know what Puro, I think I believe you

Chelsea will have to win pretty much every game now to stop them. I hope Hughes is allowed to put out an honest interview. If he can't then I guess it'll be up to Rafa to expose everything to the public again.

Not necessarily. All that needs to be done is expose Gill and Slur Alex's corruption and the Mancs's stranglehold of the EPL (let's be honest here too, they fucking made the league as we now know it!) will be over.

Them titles by Mourinho and Wenger have gone up in value in my books. They won them vanquishing the entire corrupt pro-Man Utd system FFS!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8276126.stm

Van Persie - I exaggerate falls

Arsenal striker Robin van Persie insists he does not dive but that he does exaggerate his reaction to fouls.

When asked by reporters if he overreacted to contact, Van Persie said: "Yes I have done that."

The Dutch international argued that if fouled: "Then you are in the right to show in a way to the referee that you are pushed.

"That's not really diving. It's just saying: 'Come on, he just pushed me, so I can't score now.'

Van Persie's comments come after his team-mate Eduardo recently had a two-game ban for diving overturned.

Eduardo was initially suspended for two Champions League games after his tumble as he went in with Celtic keeper Artur Boruc earned the Gunners a penalty in the second leg of a Champions League qualifier.

The Croatia striker was fiercely criticised for appearing to dive but, after Uefa's retrospective action to ban him, Arsenal won their appeal after proving there had been contact between Boruc and Eduardo.

And Van Persie seems to suggest that if contact is made unfairly then it is justified to overreact to make sure the officials take action.

"You sometimes make a little movement with your arms or with your body," he added. "But I don't think that's really cheating.

"I never have the intention to dive. Just to play honest football. I am against divers. It is just not honest, but it is difficult.

"But sometimes you are knocked off balance a bit and it looks funny.

"For example at Manchester United, after the whole Eduardo thing, I had the ball on the right side and I cut it back.

"(Patrice) Evra gave me a little push - a really little one - but it sort of over-balanced me.

"I just fell down and the whole stadium started to boo me. I was like: 'Come on, can't you see he pushed me?'"

When I saw the headline I thought this would be a frank confession from Van Persie and was ready to praise him for admitting what Rooney, Terry et al pretend English players don't do. But instead he denies that it is cheating and makes himself out to be the victim. Absolutely fucking shameless.

Paul Scholes, having already been booked for his usual two-footed Aryan skulduggery, deliberately handles the ball the prevent a goalscoring opportunity. Possibly a straight red, certainly a 2nd yellow. Referee awards free kick and nothing else. Glenndependent panel rules that Stoke would have won this game had the referee made the correct decision.

Mutual Glennsturbation wrote:Glenndependent panel rules that Stoke would have n this game had the referee made the correct decision.

A sentence worthy of Lrd.

How dare you

typo, "won". It's hardly in percifics territory. The grammar is otherwise flawless.

No it isn't. 'Glenndependent panel' should have 'a' in front of it, and in football the convention is to say referees 'give' decisions, not 'make' them.

Perhaps you'd like to post another link to my blog now, seeing as how that's your only recourse when you lose.

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Wrong account Glenn.

It's a savage garden my friend, a savage garden

We have a problem - we can't add Paul Scholes' potential 2nd yellow for handball because the BBC didn't show it in their highlights

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2672809/Manchester-United-rage-at-ref-stitch-up.html

Very clever - counter the conspiracy theory with one of your own.

Man Utd fear ref stitch-up

MANCHESTER UNITED are angry with the Premier League's referees for trying to make the FA throw the book at Alex Ferguson.

The FA have written to Fergie asking him to explain his comments about ref Alan Wiley after last Saturday's 2-2 draw with Sunderland.

Fergie claimed Wiley was not fit enough and said: "It took him 30 seconds every time he booked a player. I think that was because he needed a rest."

The referees have defended Wiley, urging the FA to ban boss Ferguson from any contact with his team on a match day.

It would be an unprecedented move and one United believe the game's rulers are being pushed towards by underhand tactics from the refs.

United understand that statistics on Wiley's performance, revealed in the media, were not given directly by the company which compiles them.

A source close to the club's hierarchy told SunSport: "The manner in which this is being put across is that they are exerting undue pressure on the FA when the disciplinary process has begun.

"Some of the statistics being used are confidential.

"United have been assured these statistics were not provided to the media by the companies which compile them.

"There is serious concern at how the refereeing fraternity is meddling with the disciplinary process."

Well the refs need to stop ganging up on managers.

Isn't this the first time they've collectively ganged up on a manager?

I'm not sure but it needs to stop.

It puts into question their impartiality for the future.

it's a useful spin o try and make yourself the victim, no real punishment is headed Fergle's way at worst he'll get some kind of suspended sentence. His buddies at the FA wont risk losing their jobs just to appease some expendable referees.

Jeff Winter:


In Winter’s experience, Ferguson systematically intimidates referees by targeting them for abuse during and after games, while using their decisions as excuses for results that have gone against United.

“If you’re refereeing at Old Trafford in front of 70,000 people, the actions of one person should not intimidate you,” says Winter. “But you’d see Sir Alex storming down to the tunnel at half-time or full-time and for sure he’d been waiting there for you with a volley of foul-mouthed abuse. The language is very, very colourful and despite his age he does present a very intimidating figure.

“Many officials choose to walk past him and shut the dressing room door but the old veins standing out, red-faced scenario is exactly the same in the tunnels. Quite often he used refereeing decisions to deflect attention from his team performances or his selection. I think the problem to referees is that he appears to have a very strong power when it comes to the footballing authorities, and a referee upsetting Sir Alex Ferguson usually backfired more on the match official than it ever did on him.”

Referees, argues Winter, are reluctant to upset Ferguson for fear it will have a negative effect on their career. There is a concern that United matches are not given to referees who draw Ferguson’s ire. “I sent Roy Keane off early in my career and didn’t referee Manchester United for over two years,” says Winter. “In view of the number of games I had of other top teams, you’d ask was that a coincidence. Since I’ve retired, there’s been many examples of referees who’ve had a fallout with Sir Alex and haven’t gone back for a considerable time.”

They should man up then.

Punch his sweaty face.

borocooper wrote:They should man up then.

Punch his sweaty face.

Didn't Jeff Winter used to be in 'boro's firm ?

Jeff Winter is just a media whore. I wouldn't pay attention to him.

The FA are and have always been subservient to SAF.

This should never have been allowed to grow and manifest into a position where SAF actively looks to exploit this weakness.

What the FA need to do is make an example of SAF, let it be known this behaviour is not acceptable, however its more likely he'll be introduced as an honorary president for his "outstanding contribution to the game"

Cant say I know about him being in the firm..Might've been. He seems to be a bit of a twat whenever I hear him speak though.

Football Genius wrote:The FA are and have always been subservient to SAF.

'Subservient' is a ridiculous word to choose. If they were then who leaked the information about Wiley's fitness?

Intimidated, yes. Compromised by, yes. 'Subservient to'? Incredible overstatement, but typical of the conspiracy theorists.

Football Genius wrote:The FA are and have always been subservient to SAF.

not true, the season he announced his retirement they got sloppy

In any case, its not SAF fault the FA are incompetent clowns, who have allowed SAF authority to go relatively unchallenged down the years.

Hes only doing it because he knows there will be minimal repercussions (nominal fine, slapped wrist)

If there was ever a case to be made for Slur Alex being made an example of, need we look any further than the FA's 'respect' campaign.

We do all remember the 'respect' campaign don't we;

"Welcome to Respect
Respect is The FA’s programme to address unacceptable behaviour in football – on and off the pitch.

On average, 7,000 referees quit football every year at because of the abuse they receive from players and from the sidelines. Lots of children also pack it in because of the attitude and actions of over-enthusiastic and pushy parents."

Now what analogy could i draw from Push parents and children learning this abusive behaviour..mmmm the mind boggles.

The FA need to really slap a heafty touchline ban on SAF, with a suspended points deduction for re-occuring behavior. It will be the only way SAF will take this seriously.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/article-1219503/PIERS-MORGAN-At-Fergie-forced-say-sorry-bully-boy-ways.html

At last! Fergie is forced to say sorry for his bully-boy ways Last updated at 11:37 PM on 10th October 2009
Comments (0) Add to My Stories Who would have thought it? Sir Alex Ferguson, the great, fearless, growling dictator of world football, reduced to making one of the most pitiful, grovelling, spectacularly fulsome apologies in the history of sport - to a REFEREE.
I laughed out loud when I read his mea culpa to Alan Wiley yesterday afternoon, particularly his clarification of any unfortunate misunderstandings.
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Letting fly: Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has never been slow in letting Alan Wiley know what he thinks about the official's performance
1) 'It was never my intention to bring the focus of intense media attention on Mr Wiley,' he said.
Of course, it wasn't, Sir Alex. You branded a top referee 'not fit enough for a game of that standard' and never imagined the media would be interested?
What balderdash.
You did it quite deliberately to stop everyone debating how badly your team played and how dreadful your goalkeeper is.
More from Piers Morgan On Sport... PIERS MORGAN: A three-match ban for this? Now that's ugly 19/09/09 PIERS MORGAN: Fabio's the Godfather and it's time to put hit on Becks 12/09/09 Piers Morgan: You can't defend the indefensible, Arsene 05/09/09 PIERS MORGAN: Don't tell me Andrew Flintoff isn't one of the greats 29/08/09 PIERS MORGAN: Sir Alex, Manchester United are still missing the X factor 22/08/09 PIERS MORGAN: Doomed? Not with Freddie back to terrify the Aussies 15/08/09 Piers Morgan: Torres will fire Liverpool to title to leave Old Grumpy moaning 08/08/09 PIERS MORGAN: Strauss and Co must show no mercy with these Aussies 25/07/09 VIEW FULL ARCHIVE 2) 'I've always respected Mr Wiley's integrity.'
Oh, cobblers.
You tried to bury the guy's top-flight refereeing career.
3) 'I did not state or imply that Mr Wiley is a bad referee, in any way biased, that his general decision-making was poor or that he missed any key incident…'
Where do I start with that load of insincere flannel?
You said, let me remind you, that Wiley didn't add on the right amount of extra time because he was 'taking a rest' by using up more than 30 seconds to book players.
That seemed to question just about every aspect of his refereeing abilities and integrity.
But no matter. Let nothing detract from the monumental, historic, nature of Ferguson's climbdown yesterday.
He didn't just surrender, he capitulated in a manner so magnificently humiliating that I'm only surprised he hasn't been photographed outside Wiley's house in sackcloth, with a banner saying 'I WAS WRONG' above his gnarled old head.
I'm in charge: Alan Wiley speaks to Wayne Rooney of Manchester United during Premier League match between Manchester United and Sunderland
To comprehend just how big a moment this is, you just need to tap the words 'Alex Ferguson' and 'sorry' into the internet, and you'll discover that there is no single recorded instance of Ferguson ever apologising to anyone for anything.
There are, of course, myriad examples of other people apologising TO Sir Alex - from his own players, past and present, to rival managers and numerous limp-wristed, supine members of the supposedly fearless British media whom he indiscriminately bans from time to time for offences such as possession of an offensive face and wearing loud shirts in a built-up dressing room.
Yet despite 30 years of outbursts, insults, smears and bitter personal attacks on anyone who has annoyed him, the great man has never previously felt the need to atone publicly for his often outrageous behaviour.
Then, finally, he is brought to his whimpering knees by a 49-year-old member of Ferguson's most hated organisation - the Referee Club.
Oh, the joyous irony.
I applaud the official referees' union, Prospect, for the way they protected their member.
They fought tooth and nail for Wiley, slamming Ferguson's comments as 'totally unwarranted', pointing out that the ProZone statistics from that game proved that he ran further than most of the players and demanding the FA ban Sir Alex for his disgusting slur on their member's reputation.
Ridiculous comment: Dermot Gallagher (centre) not pleased with Ferguson
Other referees raced to defend their colleague, too. Dermot Gallagher called it 'the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard a manager say about a referee'.
Jeff Winter branded Ferguson 'a bully and a coward'.
And the result of this intensive fightback was revealed yesterday - victory, at last, over the man who has been the scourge of referees for three decades.
Every referee whom Ferguson has verbally degraded over the years will be celebrating today, and so should every decent football fan in the country.
Because the abuse and disrespect to on-field officials has long since passed acceptable levels.
When I first started going to games 35 years ago, refs and linesmen would be booed or hissed like pantomime baddies, but it was all in good fun.
Today, they get called sickening names and have repulsive personal chants about them ring out in every stadium.
They often have to be protected from physical attack after games by the police and are regularly berated in the street.
And the regular foul-mouthed tirades against refs by people like Sir Alex Ferguson have done nothing to discourage all this vile nonsense.
By securing such an unequivocal, toadying apology from his profession's No1 enemy, Alan Wiley has done himself, his colleagues and the game of football, a massive favour. As for Sir Alex, well he just turned out to be the true ****** in the black.

A bit rich coming from that c**t.

borocooper wrote:A bit rich coming from that c**t.

Thought that myself, but nevertheless it was a good read from 'that c**t'

To comprehend just how big a moment this is, you just need to tap the words 'Alex Ferguson' and 'sorry' into the internet, and you'll discover that there is no single recorded instance of Ferguson ever apologising to anyone for anything.

Good to see such a senior journalist employs rigorous researchs methods before writing his articles.

Arsène Wenger

17 January 2005

Circumstances: Relations between the Manchester United and Arsenal managers hit an all-time low after "Pizzagate"

" What I don't understand is that he does what he wants and you are all at his feet. In England you have a good phrase ... We have a responsibility. He does what he wants. He should go abroad and see how it is over there ... He can say what he wants ... As far as Ferguson is concerned, one thing is very simple - I will never answer any question about this man. I am not going to answer any provocation from him any more. I have no diplomatic relations with that man"
Jose Mourinho

13 January 2005

Circumstances: The Chelsea boss accused Ferguson of influencing referee Neale Barry during half-time of their Carling Cup semi-final first leg

"What I saw and heard and felt at half-time made it easier for me to understand a few things. Maybe when I turn 60 and have been managing in the same league for 20 years and have the respect of everybody I will have the power to speak to people and make them tremble a little bit. The referee controlled the game in one way during the first half and another in the second half. It was whistle and whistle, fault and fault, cheat and cheat. I know the referee didn't walk to the dressing rooms alone at half-time. He should have had only his two assistants and the fourth official with him, but there was someone else"