When will Bayern sack van Gaal ?

That Bordeaux second goal at the end clearly epitomized what Bayern is like right now being managed by van Gaal. The players DO NOT know what the fuck they're doing.

We have too many shit players and not a good mix at all. When Robben and Ribery play together, their quality masks our shortcomings. However, they haven't played in a while now, so we see the squad for what it really is - limited.

Like I said before, I disagree with some of van Gaal's decisions, but all-in-all, it's the squad that's the problem.

Judging from the interview with a Dutch journo it sounds as if van Gaal has sort of closed the chapter of his reign in Munich already:

FTD wrote:"Der Champions-League-Titel sei in diesem Jahr für Bayern nicht zu holen, sagte Van Gaal. "Das wird noch eine Weile dauern." Aber angenommen, er holt den Titel irgendwann doch noch, setzt der Moderator in einem neuen Versuch an ."Nein, das geht nicht, denn ich habe hier nur einen Zweijahresvertrag", stellt Van Gaal klar. "Ich habe das als langfristiges Ziel genannt. Langfristig könnten wir das gewinnen, aber dann müssen auch alle Umstände stimmen."

Instead, he dreams of coaching another national team.

FTD wrote:Die Aussage zu seinem Vertrag kann zudem so interpretiert werden, dass der Holländer seine Amtszeit bei den Bayern nicht verlängern will - zumal er anschließend er von seinen Zielen nach der Bayern-Zeit spricht: "Ich habe immer noch den Wunsch, Nationaltrainer einer Mannschaft zu werden, die sich qualifiziert", sagte van Gaal, der damit auf eine Europa- oder Weltmeisterschaft anspielte. "Das ist mein größter Wunsch."

http://www.ftd.de/sport/:bayern-muenchen-van-gaal-schreibt-champions-league-ab/50032231.html

van Quaal is finished

and he knows it

Bayern hired him to WIN the CL

IF he fails to reach the second round, it will be only the SECOND time that has happened

he will be UNTENABLE

THE MAIN problem is that the team has ZERO confidence

van Gaal's man-management is a FARCE

just like Klinsi, he makes players HATE and FEAR him

Laurent Blanc said after the game that Bayern had NO CONFIDENCE

Gernot Rohr, former Bordeaux coach, said BEFORE the game in Munich , that Bayern lacked dertermination and CONFIDENCE. he claimed that he no longer recognised the Bayern of old

Hitzfeld said the same and so it continues

when Olic says that he prefers to come on as a sub because the van Gaal pressure to convert a chance is too big, you know you are in trouble

Gomez once scored an equaliser in the first 45 minutes and entered the locker-room in chipper mood, only to get the van Gaal hair-dryer treatment, because , allegedly, he had been moving wrongly

then he benched Gomez

the STRIKERS are TERRIFIED to make a mistake

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this season Bayern's transfer spendings were in the top 5 in Europe, I think

they are now also negotiating a new contract with AUDI, worth between 100 and 200 million Europe

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the pressure to deliver will only increase

they will NOT sack van Gaal (during THIS season) as long as he looks like qualifying for the CL next season

chances are though, that Hiddink, Heynckes or Lothar will be in charge at Säbener STrasse next season

you heard it here first

Otto, you must have been ejaculating everywhere with joy and excitement last night (once you checked the results online?). God knows what you'll do when, one of those three, say, comes in (as if Loddar were an option ) and screws up. Of course if it's Hiddink you can blame him for being Dutch.

I promise you one thing , allez

Hoeness is kicking himself that they let Heynckes go

HUGE mistake, and he knows it

Heynckes even admitted that he would have stayed on at Bayern (after his five or so interim games)

the Leverkusen man probably has a 2 year contract though and is the loyal kind

Hiddink is the NUMBER one contender to replace van Gaal

a) he's a big name manager
b) he speaks German
c) Russia will NOT qualify for the World Cup in the play-offs (yes, you heard it here first ) , and Hiddink will be on the market

the only thing why this might not work is that Hiddink prefers to work in the EPL, and Liverpool as well as ManCity are possible destinations

Hiddink is overrated as well, of course

but would still be better than van Gaal, who is demented as well as incompetent

Schuster seems to be out of the running

Dummenigge made a few stupid comments about him recently

IF the fans are MAJOR-league pissed off by the end of the season (and THAT is a possibility), Hoeness might have to make a PEACE OFFER

and THAT would be Lothar

wahre G

Bayern are running out of potential candidates and sooner rather than later Loddar will get the nod

also watch out for SAMMER

the only two management jobs that seem to interest him are the MANNSCHAFT and Bayern

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he already lives in Munich and Beckenbauer is a BIG FAN

my DREAM would be Hiddink though

he would invariably fail and the MYTH of Dutch COACHES being competent AND entertaining would be FINISHED for the next 100 years

Hitzfeld has a go at van Qual

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/champions-league/2009/11/04/bayern-legende-ottmar-hitzfeld/kritik-an-trainer-louis-van-gaal.html

he says Bayern were too defensive for a game they had to win



meanwhile, Sportbild reveals that the players are already IMITATING the Nederlander behind his back



seems, he is finally becoming a figure of fun in the lockerroom

from here on it's downhill, me thinks

Schalke and Leverkusen now follow in the Bundesliga

GOOD LUCK

Come on mate, your usual prejudices aside, you know perfectly well that Uli meant his "Greenkeeper" comment about Matthäus. The hate and contempt goes too deep, it's different than with Klinsmann (Jürgen is a much brighter guy than Lothar, as even you might privately admit). Even they aren't that desperate – yet.

As regards your Russian Mystic Otto-ism, how about a bet? Avatar-style – what happened to those? I'll think up something suitably juicy for you and you can do likewise for me

the odds for Russia to go through must be overwhelming

IF I win, a want a FAR BIGGER and BETTER avatar

wahre G

as for Lothar

he will only get appointed , IF Hoeness has lost all credit with the FANS

otherwise: NOT

football-wise, Lothar is FAR MORE intelligent than Klinsi

FAR, FAR, FAR more intelliGENT

think about it

IQ wise, Klinsi might be top

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van Gaal losing the locker-room is getting even worse now

the players start criticising him PUBLICLY

from the SZ

Und mit Philipp Lahm gab es nun auch einen Spieler, der der Wahrnehmung des Trainers widersprach. "Wir können uns nicht immer nach den Spielen hinstellen: Wir sind die bessere Mannschaft gewesen."

Well you can have whatever you want, of course, it's not like you're going to win, though I could do with some warning – we need a pre-agreement of some kind otherwise these things never happen. I'll be watching Schland and France/Ireland anyway of course...

Lothar's unparalleled Fußballintelligenz, you truly are one of a kind

The problem is.

GERMANS NEED TO BE MORE HUMBLE.

They got beat by the French champs, Bayern was and is anything but the German champs. Can happen!

But German arrogance + Louis van Gaal dont think like that.

I'm in Germany myself on friday, so I will teach them some humility!

Where is you off to Feylein? The Bavarians need teaching more than the rest

Close to Trier in the Eifel. Just go there to drop some stuff though, so won't be staying long. But I make a detour to teach more Germans some humility, and to go flat out on the Autobahn

Good work/luck. Stupidly enough I is going to be in Paris on the weekend of the 20th anniversary

So instead of being in the Montmartre you prefer to be Kreuzberg.

It must be tough to be you!

Fey wrote:Close to Trier in the Eifel. Just go there to drop some stuff though, so won't be staying long. But I make a detour to teach more Germans some humility, and to go flat out on the Autobahn

Dutch guy going to Germany to "drop some stuff"

Feylein, I love both (staying in Montmartre chez ma cousine) but yes you are right

Kas said it all

Even Der Kaiser is now laying the blame at the non-scoring forwards

I guess that's why he's the emperor of Germany : he's the only one who thinks for himself.

Axeslammer wrote:Even Der Kaiser is now laying the blame at the non-scoring forwards

I guess that's why he's the emperor of Germany : he's the only one who thinks for himself.

Wasn't der Kaiser just criticising Van Gaal

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Even Der Kaiser is now laying the blame at the non-scoring forwards

I guess that's why he's the emperor of Germany : he's the only one who thinks for himself.

Wasn't der Kaiser just criticising Van Gaal

Nope

Impressive stuff by Lahm in today's Sueddeutsche. It's easily the most intelligent, blunt and honest interview I read recently.

Lahm heavily criticizes Bayern's buying policy, saying that you can't just buy players who are good. Successful clubs first define a style of football and then buy players that fit into the system. At Bayern it's not like that. He mentions Robben, who was brought in because he is very good, but not because Bayern intended to change their system to a 4-3-3. On the other hand with Tymo another defensive mid was bought that they now no longer need in the new system.

Lahm also backs the coach who might have done two questionable transfers, but other than that sees what the team lacks. He goes on saying that he likes van Gaal's personality but he also knows that many don't get along with it. Some players obviously can't accept to be criticized in front of the whole team, but that's the only way for the team to get better.

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/367/493712/text/

Kudos to Herr Lahm, for having the balls to speak out on the things that are broken at Bayen.

VERY INTERESTING INTERVIEW indeed

DYNAMITE

he really SAVAGES Hoeness and Rummenigge

and is 100% right

you have the typical SUCKING UP to the CURRENT manager in charge as well

the teacher's pet will only gain in standing under van Gaal now

the question is how the players will react to this SUCKING UP INTERVIEW

note

INDIRECTLY, Lahm criticises quite a few of his players as well

I wonder what Schweini, Pranjic, Braafheid and all those MIMOSEN who don't like to get criticised make of this interview

and were Lahm's recent performances really any better than those of the other players ?!

the upside of the interview will be that vG gets some breathing space now; journalists will just refer to Lahm's defence of the Nederlander

also, vG might tone down his criticism somewhat , now that everybody knows the players have a problem with his harsh tones

Lahm is less intelligent than he likes to present himself as though

the problem is NOT that Bayern do not have a midfield player who can feed the front-line

the problem is that van Gaal NEVER practices the push to the front in training

the way Bayern play now, is 100% the way the team train at Säbener Strasse

FEAR of making a mistake then comes into it as well

but football in the final third is NEVER trained under van Gaal

that is 100% down to the Dutchie

my question is just to what extent Hoeness and RUmmenigge were informed of this interview

they must be FURIOUS

If the strategy of van gaal doesn't work next season you can call it a failure. if he goes out earlier you will never know if it could have been a success.

I'm afraid the fifth colonne of the club can't bear this long-term process. Football followers always think short term and short minded.

Hereby, i'm not saying van gaal will be successful. I'm not 100% convinced he can also work with arrived players. But then Germany could be a country his strategy might work for also arrived players.

If van gaal was the coach of a smaller ambitous club that would have given van gaal 100% freedom to work out his plan. It would have been a huge success in germany.

Van Gaal is 100% in love with the german life style. The friendlyness, the correctness, the grundlichkeit of the germans is what he adores.

Oooooh, Uli is so not amused about Lahm's interview.

"Giving an interview like that before such an important match wasn't a smart thing to do. I remember Bruno Labbadia doing the same and we know how that turned out."



WTF, does that mean? Is he going to sack Lahm?

Anyway, he will talk to him next week but Uli can assure Lahm he will regret to have given the interview.

Hoeneß

Der Baum brennt!

He'll just get a fine and then it's fine, isn't it?

Yep.

Bayern can't really afford to piss him off too much after all.

lahm has good reasons to be pissed (one of the reasons he stayed in munich was a possibility to win the cl, and now they are facked up in the group stages)

he had shóuld join barca, in his career bayern will not reach a cl final

i agree with his points

for example today, van gaal changed in the half time from 4-4-2 into 4-3-3, only because robben was on the field

As expected, Lahm gets a heavy fine for his interview. According to Bayern he is fined with an amount which has never been sanctioned by Bayern before.

Should be about €50.000.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/telegramm/news-ticker,rendertext=10384734.html

Hoeness gives vG

UNTIL XMAS

then the board will hold a meeting and discuss how to proceed

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2009/11/09/louis-van-gaal/frist-bis-weihnachten.html

does not sound good for the Nederlander

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can anybody please explain to me what Lahm tried to achieve with his astonishing attack on Hoeness and Rummenigge ?

he could easily have done it PRIVATELY, if he had wanted to address existing problems

going PUBLIC is what you do when you want to force the club to SELL you

but this will NOT happen until the end of the season anyway

the TIMING is bizarre

I know that the "Mitgliederversammlung" is in THREE WEEKS

club members will make Hoeness supervisory board president and celebrate the board's recent big deals with Audi...

since most MEMBERS are already questioning Hoeness' way of running the club, they will now have more ammunition to attack him

but could this really be the reason for Lahm's outburst ?

Lahm effectively accused the Bayern MIDFIELD of being USELESS

he question of intelligence of signing Robben, in view of the 442 Bayern had been playing and training previously

he also implied that van Gaal was making all sorts of mistakes, despite also praising the Nederlander

from one day to the next Lahm is isolated in the club and locker-room

WHY on earth did he do it ?

what am I missing ?

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:

Lahm effectively accused the Bayern MIDFIELD of being USELESS

Well, without Robbery it sort of is rubbish

(Just kidding )

Lahm didn't call them useless, but not well-qualified or not suitable for the positions they are supposed to fulfil. And he's 100% spot on here.

And Lahm DID voice the criticism internally according to Roman Grill, but was ignored by the board obviously. And there are supposed to be several other players that share his sentiment as well, but are afraid to voice it publicly.

The vast majority of fans agrees with him as well.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2009/11/09/nach-kritik-von-philipp-lahm/fans-geben-bayern-star-recht.html

BILD: "Hat Lahm Recht mit seiner Kritik?"

Ja: 96%

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