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    Post by TM Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:01 pm

    Real Madrid have announced that they have agreed a deal with betting website BWIN to extend their shirt sponsorship deal for another three years.

    Los Merengues' current agreement with the gambling giants was due to run out at the end of the current campaign and discussions have now born fruit, the club have reported on their official website.

    The Austrian company replaced BenQ on Madrid's shirts in 2007 and pay the Spanish outfit between €15-€20 million per season.

    That has now been extended until 2013 and will see Madrid earn at least €20m-a-year in revenue, which will help ease the club's debt of around €422m.

    Madrid were unable to carry the BWIN name on their shirts for their opening Champions League game against Zurich and will not be able to when they visit France to play Olympique de Marseille later in the group stage.

    Both the French and Swiss do not allow advertising by gambling companies unless they are state owned, though that law is soon to be changed in l'Hexagone.

    Also rumours saying Perez is close to agreeing a new deal with Adidas.
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    Post by L r dd Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:02 pm

    Would this guy deny he did it? rubbish his profession, say he lied. What if he carries on and says it was him Laughing
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    Post by Dick Grayson Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:46 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    kas wrote:

    Warlock says he's been paid to curse Real Madrid star Ronaldo
    Cristiano Ronaldo

    Graham Keeley in Madrid

    A Spaniard who describes himself as a professional warlock claims to have been hired to cast a spell on the former Manchester United footballer Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Jose “Pepe” Ruz, 58, from Malaga, has written to Florentino Pérez, the president of Real Madrid — the club that paid £80 million for the Portugal international — to warn him that the hopes of millions of fans are about to be dashed. “I have been contracted so Cristiano Ronaldo suffers a serious injury. I can’t promise when that will be, but I can say he will be injured for more time than he plays,” he wrote.

    Speculation has abounded in Spain over who might have taken out a black-magic contract on the star. Was it Sir Alex Ferguson, his former manager at Manchester United? Or Joan Laporta, president of Real Madrid’s rivals, Barcelona? Neither is a known practitioner of the dark arts — so is it one of the hapless defenders who will have to face Ronaldo in the coming season? Mr Ruz refused to name his client, other than to say that he or she was “famous and knows the player”.

    Mr Ruz claims to have practised witchcraft for 22 years; a calling for which he says he is well paid. This time, however, he will have his warlock work cut out: the Portuguese winger has already scored seven goals in five games for his new club.

    Real Madrid dismissed the threat. “It is a nonsense, like many things we have to deal with regularly,” a spokesman said.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6854473.ece

    Consider yourselves warned Laughing

    Probably he will put a spell on Drenthe and TBW will break CR9s ankle in training. That's my guess anyway.

    My guess its probably one of the follwoing in this order;

    1. Messi - burning jls conte
    2. Kaka - selfish jls conte, does not pass to TRW!
    3. Benzema - as above
    4. Rooney - to make himself look better than TRW!
    5. Torres - as above!
    6. Mourinho - still burning jls conte!
    7. Target Man - secretly burnong jls conte!
    8. Glen Hysen - Burning jls conte!
    9. Senor Perez - old burning jls conte!
    10. Rafa Benetiz - all the above!
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    Post by TM Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:47 pm

    Whistle
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    Post by Dick Grayson Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:48 pm

    TM wrote:Whistle

    Is TRW killing you my son??? Laughing
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    Post by Jaime Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:06 pm

    Dick Grayson wrote:
    TM wrote:Whistle

    Is TRW TWW killing you my son??? Laughing

    Come on Dick, get it straight!
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    Post by Football Genius Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:14 pm

    I notice Ronaldo often gets put upfront in your theoretical line ups, having only watched two Madrid games this season i'm not able to answer my question.

    Do you guys see him as a Striker or as a right winger / Right / Left Forward?
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    Post by Jaime Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:17 pm

    Football Genius wrote:I notice Ronaldo often gets put upfront in your theoretical line ups, having only watched two Madrid games this season i'm not able to answer my question.

    Do you guys see him as a Striker or as a right winger / Right / Left Forward?

    For the most part he plays as a 'wide forward'. He will usually start from wide positions, receive the ball, and then make his attacking runs with the ball into the centre from the left or the right. He seems to have absolute freedom to roam where he wants and does spend a fair amount of time in the middle of the pitch. I guess at times he almost looks like a 'second striker'. But aside from the last 10 minutes of the game against Zurich after substitutions had been made he has not played as an out and out '9' on his own. But he certainly doesn't play along the touchline to get crosses in as a true winger would do.
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    Post by Torrente Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:32 am

    This is partly why I don't see the need for Pellegrini to play with 2 strikers, especially if he will play with 2 DMs. In Villareal the likes of Cani and Cazorla could operate well in deeper, more central positions when necessary. So the two DMs essentially combined with 2 other central players. Ronaldo and Kaka are clearly a lot more efficient when they are close to the goal, especially Ronaldo. So this is what creates the 4-2-4, which allows us to attack a fair amount but not to control games. I think teams like Chelsea would kill us if we played them at the moment.

    So for me, there should generally be one of Granero/Guti/VDV in the field, while only one of Benzema/Higuain/Raul. If Pellegrini wants to play two of Benzema/Higuain/Raul, then he should take out Ronaldo.

    At least this way there is a bit of consistency in the lineup so the rotations won't affect the team as much as they are at the moment. Sometimes we play with 2 central players, other times with 3. Sometimes we play we 3 forwards, other times with 4, etc.

    This is looking too much like Benitez's rotation policy a few years ago. He kept changing 3-4 players and the shape of the team in almost every game, which made it very tough for Liverpool to get going. Rotating is fine, but there should at least be a fixed system that the players are in.
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    Post by Jaime Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:22 pm

    The best birthday present Torrente could have received:

    Spoiler:

    Laughing
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    Post by Jaime Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:30 pm

    Torrente wrote:This is partly why I don't see the need for Pellegrini to play with 2 strikers, especially if he will play with 2 DMs. In Villareal the likes of Cani and Cazorla could operate well in deeper, more central positions when necessary. So the two DMs essentially combined with 2 other central players. Ronaldo and Kaka are clearly a lot more efficient when they are close to the goal, especially Ronaldo. So this is what creates the 4-2-4, which allows us to attack a fair amount but not to control games. I think teams like Chelsea would kill us if we played them at the moment.

    So for me, there should generally be one of Granero/Guti/VDV in the field, while only one of Benzema/Higuain/Raul. If Pellegrini wants to play two of Benzema/Higuain/Raul, then he should take out Ronaldo.

    At least this way there is a bit of consistency in the lineup so the rotations won't affect the team as much as they are at the moment. Sometimes we play with 2 central players, other times with 3. Sometimes we play we 3 forwards, other times with 4, etc.

    This is looking too much like Benitez's rotation policy a few years ago. He kept changing 3-4 players and the shape of the team in almost every game, which made it very tough for Liverpool to get going. Rotating is fine, but there should at least be a fixed system that the players are in.

    I think the rotations are only a problem because this is a brand new team that has still yet to completely settle. If this were a team that had remained basically in tact for a couple of seasons, the rotations would be easier. But since a lot of the players are still in a period of adaptation they need the consistency of playing together often in order to work out how they should play together on the pitch.

    I think the hybrid 4-2-4 and 4-3-3 tactics will both have their uses. I think it is good for Pellegrini to keep tinkering now because we want him to have these details sorted before the really important games come in February and beyond. We have enough quality up front that we should be able to qualify from this CL group and be at the top of the league while the details of the play are still being resolved.
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    Post by Torrente Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:01 pm

    Jaime wrote:The best birthday present Torrente could have received:

    Spoiler:

    Laughing

    I would have preferred the team to have played well as a present but something is something I guess cheers
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:11 pm

    Torrente wrote:This is partly why I don't see the need for Pellegrini to play with 2 strikers, especially if he will play with 2 DMs. In Villareal the likes of Cani and Cazorla could operate well in deeper, more central positions when necessary. So the two DMs essentially combined with 2 other central players. Ronaldo and Kaka are clearly a lot more efficient when they are close to the goal, especially Ronaldo. So this is what creates the 4-2-4, which allows us to attack a fair amount but not to control games. I think teams like Chelsea would kill us if we played them at the moment.

    So for me, there should generally be one of Granero/Guti/VDV in the field, while only one of Benzema/Higuain/Raul. If Pellegrini wants to play two of Benzema/Higuain/Raul, then he should take out Ronaldo.

    At least this way there is a bit of consistency in the lineup so the rotations won't affect the team as much as they are at the moment. Sometimes we play with 2 central players, other times with 3. Sometimes we play we 3 forwards, other times with 4, etc.

    This is looking too much like Benitez's rotation policy a few years ago. He kept changing 3-4 players and the shape of the team in almost every game, which made it very tough for Liverpool to get going. Rotating is fine, but there should at least be a fixed system that the players are in.
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    This is exactly why I was against getting Ronaldo and Kaka. Granero has to play as I see it or we will struggle to keep the ball well. I weren't particularly impressed with our performance yesterday but Marseille were smart and pushed their defensive line high. Without the red card we would have struggled more me thinks allthough I think we would still have won since we had the lead and we could counter.
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    Post by Torrente Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:12 pm

    @Jaime

    What you're saying is part of the point. If you have so many new players and they will obviously suffer from adaptation, etc., then you're only making things worse if you also keep changing the system every single game. We haven't had a single game in which the starting 11 hasn't changed with at least 3 new players, and on top of that the system has changed almost every time. I'm not expecting us to play champaign football of course, but the first halves against Tenerife and Marseilles are unnacceptable.

    I actually think that last night Pellegrini put out one of his most coherent lineups. Unfortunately Xabi Alonso had a horror show while Guti played too deep, which once again had our lines too separated from each other. If Guti had performed his role as the enganche between Alonso/Gago and Kaka/Ronaldo/Benzema, it would have been a very different game.
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    Post by Jaime Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:17 pm

    Torrente wrote:@Jaime

    What you're saying is part of the point. If you have so many new players and they will obviously suffer from adaptation, etc., then you're only making things worse if you also keep changing the system every single game. We haven't had a single game in which the starting 11 hasn't changed with at least 3 new players, and on top of that the system has changed almost every time. I'm not expecting us to play champaign football of course, but the first halves against Tenerife and Marseilles are unnacceptable.

    I actually think that last night Pellegrini put out one of his most coherent lineups. Unfortunately Xabi Alonso had a horror show while Guti played too deep, which once again had our lines too separated from each other. If Guti had performed his role as the enganche between Alonso/Gago and Kaka/Ronaldo/Benzema, it would have been a very different game.

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    Post by Torrente Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:24 pm

    Super Cassano wrote:
    Torrente wrote:This is partly why I don't see the need for Pellegrini to play with 2 strikers, especially if he will play with 2 DMs. In Villareal the likes of Cani and Cazorla could operate well in deeper, more central positions when necessary. So the two DMs essentially combined with 2 other central players. Ronaldo and Kaka are clearly a lot more efficient when they are close to the goal, especially Ronaldo. So this is what creates the 4-2-4, which allows us to attack a fair amount but not to control games. I think teams like Chelsea would kill us if we played them at the moment.

    So for me, there should generally be one of Granero/Guti/VDV in the field, while only one of Benzema/Higuain/Raul. If Pellegrini wants to play two of Benzema/Higuain/Raul, then he should take out Ronaldo.

    At least this way there is a bit of consistency in the lineup so the rotations won't affect the team as much as they are at the moment. Sometimes we play with 2 central players, other times with 3. Sometimes we play we 3 forwards, other times with 4, etc.

    This is looking too much like Benitez's rotation policy a few years ago. He kept changing 3-4 players and the shape of the team in almost every game, which made it very tough for Liverpool to get going. Rotating is fine, but there should at least be a fixed system that the players are in.
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    This is exactly why I was against getting Ronaldo and Kaka. Granero has to play as I see it or we will struggle to keep the ball well. I weren't particularly impressed with our performance yesterday but Marseille were smart and pushed their defensive line high. Without the red card we would have struggled more me thinks allthough I think we would still have won since we had the lead and we could counter.

    I think Kaka and Ronaldo are doing very well. The problem is that Pellegrini expects them to be like Cazorla and Cani or Pires, and that isn't going to happen. These players are not for doing "tiki-taka" in the center of the field, they are a lot more direct. That's why they need a player like Granero/VDV/Guti to link them to Alonso and Lass or Gago, because otherwise the lines will be too split up.
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    Post by fcb Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:35 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    kas wrote:

    Warlock says he's been paid to curse Real Madrid star Ronaldo
    Cristiano Ronaldo

    Graham Keeley in Madrid

    A Spaniard who describes himself as a professional warlock claims to have been hired to cast a spell on the former Manchester United footballer Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Jose “Pepe” Ruz, 58, from Malaga, has written to Florentino Pérez, the president of Real Madrid — the club that paid £80 million for the Portugal international — to warn him that the hopes of millions of fans are about to be dashed. “I have been contracted so Cristiano Ronaldo suffers a serious injury. I can’t promise when that will be, but I can say he will be injured for more time than he plays,” he wrote.

    Speculation has abounded in Spain over who might have taken out a black-magic contract on the star. Was it Sir Alex Ferguson, his former manager at Manchester United? Or Joan Laporta, president of Real Madrid’s rivals, Barcelona? Neither is a known practitioner of the dark arts — so is it one of the hapless defenders who will have to face Ronaldo in the coming season? Mr Ruz refused to name his client, other than to say that he or she was “famous and knows the player”.

    Mr Ruz claims to have practised witchcraft for 22 years; a calling for which he says he is well paid. This time, however, he will have his warlock work cut out: the Portuguese winger has already scored seven goals in five games for his new club.

    Real Madrid dismissed the threat. “It is a nonsense, like many things we have to deal with regularly,” a spokesman said.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6854473.ece

    Consider yourselves warned Laughing

    Probably he will put a spell on Drenthe and TBW will break CR9s ankle in training. That's my guess anyway.

    Credit to MD for spotting that the voodoo is working...Ronaldo doubtful for the weekend with that blow to his ankle last night lol!

    So Diawara is the witch doctor Suspect
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    Post by Jaime Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:57 pm

    kas wrote:
    Jaime wrote:
    kas wrote:

    Warlock says he's been paid to curse Real Madrid star Ronaldo
    Cristiano Ronaldo

    Graham Keeley in Madrid

    A Spaniard who describes himself as a professional warlock claims to have been hired to cast a spell on the former Manchester United footballer Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Jose “Pepe” Ruz, 58, from Malaga, has written to Florentino Pérez, the president of Real Madrid — the club that paid £80 million for the Portugal international — to warn him that the hopes of millions of fans are about to be dashed. “I have been contracted so Cristiano Ronaldo suffers a serious injury. I can’t promise when that will be, but I can say he will be injured for more time than he plays,” he wrote.

    Speculation has abounded in Spain over who might have taken out a black-magic contract on the star. Was it Sir Alex Ferguson, his former manager at Manchester United? Or Joan Laporta, president of Real Madrid’s rivals, Barcelona? Neither is a known practitioner of the dark arts — so is it one of the hapless defenders who will have to face Ronaldo in the coming season? Mr Ruz refused to name his client, other than to say that he or she was “famous and knows the player”.

    Mr Ruz claims to have practised witchcraft for 22 years; a calling for which he says he is well paid. This time, however, he will have his warlock work cut out: the Portuguese winger has already scored seven goals in five games for his new club.

    Real Madrid dismissed the threat. “It is a nonsense, like many things we have to deal with regularly,” a spokesman said.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6854473.ece

    Consider yourselves warned Laughing

    Probably he will put a spell on Drenthe and TBW will break CR9s ankle in training. That's my guess anyway.

    Credit to MD for spotting that the voodoo is working...Ronaldo doubtful for the weekend with that blow to his ankle last night lol!

    So Diawara is the witch doctor Suspect

    Shocked

    F*cking hell, I forgot about this. If it was Paris Hilton... Grr
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    Post by elbecko Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:02 pm

    kas wrote:
    Jaime wrote:
    kas wrote:

    Warlock says he's been paid to curse Real Madrid star Ronaldo
    Cristiano Ronaldo

    Graham Keeley in Madrid

    A Spaniard who describes himself as a professional warlock claims to have been hired to cast a spell on the former Manchester United footballer Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Jose “Pepe” Ruz, 58, from Malaga, has written to Florentino Pérez, the president of Real Madrid — the club that paid £80 million for the Portugal international — to warn him that the hopes of millions of fans are about to be dashed. “I have been contracted so Cristiano Ronaldo suffers a serious injury. I can’t promise when that will be, but I can say he will be injured for more time than he plays,” he wrote.

    Speculation has abounded in Spain over who might have taken out a black-magic contract on the star. Was it Sir Alex Ferguson, his former manager at Manchester United? Or Joan Laporta, president of Real Madrid’s rivals, Barcelona? Neither is a known practitioner of the dark arts — so is it one of the hapless defenders who will have to face Ronaldo in the coming season? Mr Ruz refused to name his client, other than to say that he or she was “famous and knows the player”.

    Mr Ruz claims to have practised witchcraft for 22 years; a calling for which he says he is well paid. This time, however, he will have his warlock work cut out: the Portuguese winger has already scored seven goals in five games for his new club.

    Real Madrid dismissed the threat. “It is a nonsense, like many things we have to deal with regularly,” a spokesman said.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6854473.ece

    Consider yourselves warned Laughing

    Probably he will put a spell on Drenthe and TBW will break CR9s ankle in training. That's my guess anyway.

    Credit to MD for spotting that the voodoo is working...Ronaldo doubtful for the weekend with that blow to his ankle last night lol!

    So Diawara is the witch doctor Suspect
    The injury is not serious so there's more to come. affraid

    Laughing
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    Post by Jaime Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:09 pm

    Robben se podría haber lesionado para varios meses

    Varias semanas después de que el Real Madrid le traspasara al Bayern por 25 millones de euros, Arjen Robben se volvió a lesionar. Esta vez, puede que para varios meses, después de tener que ser sustituido anoche durante el Bayern-Juventus de Champions. El jugador holandés sufre un problema en una rodilla que, a falta de un análisis más exhaustivo, le podría tener varios meses apartado de los terrenos de juego.

    "Creo que es una lesión grave, así me lo ha dicho Arjen", comentó Van Gaal, técnico del club bávaro, nada más finalizar el partido. "Veremos lo que dicen los análisis, pero si el futbolista me dice que es grave, yo le creo".

    Si se confirma la lesión, Robben, de 25 años, confirmaría de nuevo su condición de futbolista de cristal. Las contínuas lesiones, musculares en su mayoría, han lastrado la carrera del extremo zurdo durante su estancia en el Chelsea y, posteriormente, en el Real Madrid.

    http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/robben-podria-haber-lesionado-varios/dasftb/20091001dasdasftb_25/Tes

    Well, that didn't take long... Whistle
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    Post by Torrente Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:23 pm

    I think that witch doctor is a secret Real Madrid fan who is trying to prove himself to Florentino so he becomes part of the directives. He gave his warning by only stopping Ronaldo from playing one game. This is his "come and get me" plea to Florentino. So Florentino should hire him as the official Real Madrid witch doctor, and his first task should be to have somebody break Messi's leg just before el clásico cheers

    FÍCHALO FLORENTINO!!!!!!!!!
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    Post by Torrente Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:24 pm

    Jaime wrote:Robben se podría haber lesionado para varios meses

    Varias semanas después de que el Real Madrid le traspasara al Bayern por 25 millones de euros, Arjen Robben se volvió a lesionar. Esta vez, puede que para varios meses, después de tener que ser sustituido anoche durante el Bayern-Juventus de Champions. El jugador holandés sufre un problema en una rodilla que, a falta de un análisis más exhaustivo, le podría tener varios meses apartado de los terrenos de juego.

    "Creo que es una lesión grave, así me lo ha dicho Arjen", comentó Van Gaal, técnico del club bávaro, nada más finalizar el partido. "Veremos lo que dicen los análisis, pero si el futbolista me dice que es grave, yo le creo".

    Si se confirma la lesión, Robben, de 25 años, confirmaría de nuevo su condición de futbolista de cristal. Las contínuas lesiones, musculares en su mayoría, han lastrado la carrera del extremo zurdo durante su estancia en el Chelsea y, posteriormente, en el Real Madrid.

    http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/robben-podria-haber-lesionado-varios/dasftb/20091001dasdasftb_25/Tes

    Well, that didn't take long... Whistle

    I read about that as well. That's why Robben would have benefited a lot more from forcing his stay in Madrid. He simply can't play 2 games a week. But if he was used the way Pellegrini intended to use him, he would have been a lethal weapon. Despite his injuries I still think we should have kept him.
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    Post by Jaime Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:41 pm

    Gago estará tres semanas de baja

    El centrocampista argentino sufre "una lesión de grado I-II en el músculo bíceps femoral izquierdo" y el tiempo estimado de baja para el internacional argentino será aproximadamente de tres semanas.

    Pellegrini pierde, de esta forma, un nuevo recambio en el centro del campo. El técnico chileno, que tuvo que sobreponerse a la baja de Xabi Alonso, ya recuperado, no podrá contar con el argentino para el importante choque en el Sánchez Pizjuán.

    http://www.marca.com/2009/10/01/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1254407614.html

    Depending on Lass' condition, might we see Diarra? I actually think the match the Sanchez Pizjuan might actually suit him. Juanan is training with the first team as well, will be interesting to see if he might get called. Clearly Sergio Ramos is not 100% fit either.
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    Post by Calidad Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:30 pm

    How has Marcelo been doing this season? I still think he'll be among the best in his position come 2-3 years. I love watching him play. He's always smiling, and is brimming with talent and enthusiasm for the game.
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    Post by Torrente Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:46 pm

    Calidad wrote:How has Marcelo been doing this season? I still think he'll be among the best in his position come 2-3 years. I love watching him play. He's always smiling, and is brimming with talent and enthusiasm for the game.

    I would say that he's the only player in the squad next to Albiol who hasn't had a bad game yet. He's ranged from solid to very good. Like you I always kept my faith in Marcelo from the very beginning, and every season he's kept progressing nicely. Given that he's only 21 he will definitely get a lot better. What makes it more significant he's been doing so well is that in Pellegrini's system the fullbacks are meant to provide the width, and I think Marcelo has been impressive in knowing when to attack and when to stay back.

    However, Marcelo must still go through the big test of facing a very skillful attacker or winger bombing down his wing. This weekend he'll get such a test going up against Jesus Navas. It will be interesting to see how Marcelo does then.
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    Post by Calidad Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:53 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Calidad wrote:How has Marcelo been doing this season? I still think he'll be among the best in his position come 2-3 years. I love watching him play. He's always smiling, and is brimming with talent and enthusiasm for the game.

    I would say that he's the only player in the squad next to Albiol who hasn't had a bad game yet. He's ranged from solid to very good. Like you I always kept my faith in Marcelo from the very beginning, and every season he's kept progressing nicely. Given that he's only 21 he will definitely get a lot better. What makes it more significant he's been doing so well is that in Pellegrini's system the fullbacks are meant to provide the width, and I think Marcelo has been impressive in knowing when to attack and when to stay back.

    However, Marcelo must still go through the big test of facing a very skillful attacker or winger bombing down his wing. This weekend he'll get such a test going up against Jesus Navas. It will be interesting to see how Marcelo does then.

    Is his big weakness. Though again, I think it's something that'll become more adept at handling over the next couple of seasons. He's incredibly pacey himself, so he shouldn't be caught out too often by pace. He just needs to learn not to lunge in so quickly. He can be over-zealous which means he is susceptible to getting caught out in this regard.

    He seems to have developed a good understanding with Ronaldo with bodes well.
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    Post by Jaime Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:06 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Calidad wrote:How has Marcelo been doing this season? I still think he'll be among the best in his position come 2-3 years. I love watching him play. He's always smiling, and is brimming with talent and enthusiasm for the game.

    I would say that he's the only player in the squad next to Albiol who hasn't had a bad game yet. He's ranged from solid to very good. Like you I always kept my faith in Marcelo from the very beginning, and every season he's kept progressing nicely. Given that he's only 21 he will definitely get a lot better. What makes it more significant he's been doing so well is that in Pellegrini's system the fullbacks are meant to provide the width, and I think Marcelo has been impressive in knowing when to attack and when to stay back.

    However, Marcelo must still go through the big test of facing a very skillful attacker or winger bombing down his wing. This weekend he'll get such a test going up against Jesus Navas. It will be interesting to see how Marcelo does then.

    I would add that I think he benefits a lot from having Xabi Alonso because on multiple occasions each game you see Alonso dropping into the space that Marcelo leaves behind to cover for him. Marcelo's 1 v 1 defending is a lot better than when he first arrived. His marking still has a lot to be desired in my opinion but he's definitely improved. The one thing that I like is that he doesn't hide. Even though in the past when he has made big f*ckups he doesn't runaway and asked not to be picked like Drenthe did. I think he has the mentality to make it if he keeps improving.
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    Post by Effenberg Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:12 pm

    Robben is only out 3-4 weeks. Hardly out of the ordinary. Plus, he twisted his knee, which has nothing to do with his particular physique.
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    Post by Jaime Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:15 pm

    Effenberg wrote:Robben is only out 3-4 weeks. Hardly out of the ordinary. Plus, he twisted his knee, which has nothing to do with his particular physique.

    That's good...
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    Post by TM Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:05 pm

    Real Madrid 'keeper Iker Casillas has been voted the World's Best Goalkeeper in 2008 by the International Federation of Football History & Statistics (IFFHS).

    The shot stopper, who played a major part in Spain's victory in the European Championships last summer, finished some distance clear of rivals Gianluigi Buffon and Edwin van der Sar.

    The IFFHS asked a wide range experts from 85 countries to nominate their top four goalkeepers, with points awarded on a scale whereby the top-ranked 'keeper would receive four points and their fourth-ranked shot stopper received one point.

    The top 10 ranked 'keepers were as follows:

    1 - Iker Casillas: 249 points
    2 - Gianluigi Buffon: 170
    3 - Edwin van der Sar: 143
    4 - Petr Cech: 108
    5 - Igor Akinfeev: 23
    6 - Jose Francisco Cevallos: 21
    7 - Julio Cesar: 18
    8 - Pepe Reina:15
    9 - Jens Lehmann: 13
    10 - Justo Villar: 12

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