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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:33 pm

    I think Chelsea have started employing Drogba somilar to how he was used for Marseille and his country... i.e. actually allowing him to face the goal, and run at players. He'll always give you great alround play, but he'll score more goals if you allow him to get clearer cut chances.

    And it's quite obvious that since he's not being Lampard's slave anymore - Flumps form has gone downhill.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:37 pm

    I seriously cannot see past the number of times the ball seems to just bounce of his shins though.

    He is improving, I'll give you that, but the Drog World Class?? Personally not convinced. Yet.
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    Post by COTR Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:38 pm

    TeamSpirit™ wrote:A goal like that can't be classed as luck... unless you mean Chelsea are lucky to have The DROG, which they damn well are. There's nothing as a forward which he can't do... I seriously mean that.
    except be a consistently great finisher perhaps... he seems to save his best for us unfortunatly...

    depressing game for me... felt like we were the only team trying to play football... chelsea were just doing their normal long ball and hopefully sneak a goal from a set peice routine... 4 central midfielders made the game compact but we still managed to create some great opportunities in the first half... chelsea created nothing then bang out of nowhere that goal comes and was very undeserved...

    no point even talking about the second half really... as a liverpool fan i have become very used to watching bucketloads of sitters being missed..very very annoying

    P.S obi... kuyt bugged me today... thought he was poor... and you can add me to the list of people who thought gerrard had a good game (obviously apart from that bloody miss)
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    Post by S4P Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:42 pm

    Laughing

    Garth Crooks: "There was a claim that Liverpool should've had a penalty. What did you make of it?"

    Mourinho: "I did not see, to be fair. I have not seen the replay, so I cannot say. But, if we go to the first minute, and we analyse the Riley performance, ouff. He's a very good ref, but, it wasn't his day"

    What rating would you have given Riley today? Imo, probably 5/10.
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    Post by Luis Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:43 pm

    Riley is 1 of the shittest refs in the league
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    Post by S4P Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:44 pm

    COTR wrote:

    depressing game for me... felt like we were the only team trying to play football... chelsea were just doing their normal long ball and hopefully sneak a goal from a set peice routine... 4 central midfielders made the game compact but we still managed to create some great opportunities in the first half... chelsea created nothing then bang out of nowhere that goal comes and was very undeserved...


    Don't agree to be honest. By half time, we'd had over 60% possession, and had created more chances, all on target. You hadn't had a shot on-target.

    We only really went 'long ball' style in the 2nd half, after Ballack's red card (understandable, especially towards the end when we were hanging on)
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:33 am

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Can't believe someone thought Gerrard played well.

    Kuyt was very good.


    Richard Keys is now telling us that Drogba's "good when he doesn't have time to think".

    Why don't you just come out and admit that you and your cronies got it wrong and that he's world class you stunted little ape.

    i cant believe someone in this thread said earlier that its obvious theres 3 midfielders who are better than gerrard..i mean...ballack was terrible yet again then got sent off for stamping on someone...!!!! Shocked
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:45 am

    dont panic! wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Can't believe someone thought Gerrard played well.

    Kuyt was very good.


    Richard Keys is now telling us that Drogba's "good when he doesn't have time to think".

    Why don't you just come out and admit that you and your cronies got it wrong and that he's world class you stunted little ape.

    i cant believe someone in this thread said earlier that its obvious theres 3 midfielders who are better than gerrard..i mean...ballack was terrible yet again then got sent off for stamping on someone...!!!! Shocked

    That was me before the sending off. Ballack was playing very well.

    He got sent off, Alonso turned to mush the second half.

    Essien was class though, best midfielder on show by a stretch.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:52 am

    Parks Lives wrote:
    dont panic! wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Can't believe someone thought Gerrard played well.

    Kuyt was very good.


    Richard Keys is now telling us that Drogba's "good when he doesn't have time to think".

    Why don't you just come out and admit that you and your cronies got it wrong and that he's world class you stunted little ape.

    i cant believe someone in this thread said earlier that its obvious theres 3 midfielders who are better than gerrard..i mean...ballack was terrible yet again then got sent off for stamping on someone...!!!! Shocked


    Come on Ballack wanted to get integrated very quickly in England. He saw Rooney stamping some one at the World Cup and every body was blaming C Ronaldo for mate screwing...

    He thought it is a good thing in England to stamp some one because "then I get the media behind me..."
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    Post by The Vermonster Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:05 am

    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:Riley is 1 of the shittest refs in the league

    Havent we been saying this for two years now ever since the game in OT. Hey wait a minute havent we forgotten THAT game after yesterday. Big Sam agrees too with that BTW lol!
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:24 am

    Parks Lives wrote:
    dont panic! wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Can't believe someone thought Gerrard played well.

    Kuyt was very good.


    Richard Keys is now telling us that Drogba's "good when he doesn't have time to think".

    Why don't you just come out and admit that you and your cronies got it wrong and that he's world class you stunted little ape.

    i cant believe someone in this thread said earlier that its obvious theres 3 midfielders who are better than gerrard..i mean...ballack was terrible yet again then got sent off for stamping on someone...!!!! Shocked

    That was me before the sending off. Ballack was playing very well.

    He got sent off, Alonso turned to mush the second half.

    Essien was class though, best midfielder on show by a stretch.


    ballack was playing well!!!!... Question
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    Post by COTR Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:26 am

    it's park shipshap.. what do you expect when liverpool are part of the topic...

    drogba was the only chelsea playing that remotely impressed me in terms of actually wanting to play football and win the game on the chelsea team yesterday... they really were very poor both with 10 and 11 men... we only have ourselves to blame for missing all those sitters
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:26 am

    Alonso is the reason liverpool aren´t playing well his form is not good and he makes liverpool tick, without him they struggle hugely
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:27 am

    dont panic! wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:
    dont panic! wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Can't believe someone thought Gerrard played well.

    Kuyt was very good.


    Richard Keys is now telling us that Drogba's "good when he doesn't have time to think".

    Why don't you just come out and admit that you and your cronies got it wrong and that he's world class you stunted little ape.

    i cant believe someone in this thread said earlier that its obvious theres 3 midfielders who are better than gerrard..i mean...ballack was terrible yet again then got sent off for stamping on someone...!!!! Shocked

    That was me before the sending off. Ballack was playing very well.

    He got sent off, Alonso turned to mush the second half.

    Essien was class though, best midfielder on show by a stretch.


    ballack was playing well!!!!... Question

    Err, yes. Suspect

    Both Ballack and Alonso were very good the first half.
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    Post by COTR Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:29 am

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:Alonso is the reason liverpool aren´t playing well his form is not good and he makes liverpool tick, without him they struggle hugely
    do you think we struggled yesterday frank????

    point taken about alonso but he wasn't really bad yesterday and you also have to take into consideration the fact chelsea play 4 centre midfielders... alonso has been bad this season but we are losing because one again we are missing simple simple chances and previously because the defence have been making poor mistakes... im not overly worried at the minute... was very happy with the performance yesterday
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:29 am

    COTR wrote:it's park shipshap.. what do you expect when liverpool are part of the topic...

    drogba was the only chelsea playing that remotely impressed me in terms of actually wanting to play football and win the game on the chelsea team yesterday... they really were very poor both with 10 and 11 men... we only have ourselves to blame for missing all those sitters

    Liverpool were not playing well and produced just a few REAL chances! You were toothless upfront with Kuyt and Bellamy up-front! If you played with Crouch you would have beaten Chelsea in this form!


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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:30 am

    drogba did play well, but i´m with parky on essien he did v well, but its whats so frightening about chelsea, they weren´t v good yesterday BUT still won the bloody match against a team who were supposed to be title challengers
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    Post by Roger Hunt Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:31 am

    Shots on target: Liverpool 6 Chelsea 3

    Shots off target: Liverpool 6 Chelsea 3

    http://msnsport.skysports.com/matchreport.aspx?fxid=302289&CPID=8&channel=football_home
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:32 am

    Roger_Hunt wrote:Shots on target: Liverpool 6 Chelsea 3

    Shots off target: Liverpool 6 Chelsea 3

    http://msnsport.skysports.com/matchreport.aspx?fxid=302289&CPID=8&channel=football_home

    So???? Chelsea played clearly on the counter-attack and allowed Liverpool to play more attacking... But most of the game was played just on the midfield!
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    Post by L r d Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:33 am

    ricardojol wrote:
    Roger_Hunt wrote:Shots on target: Liverpool 6 Chelsea 3

    Shots off target: Liverpool 6 Chelsea 3

    http://msnsport.skysports.com/matchreport.aspx?fxid=302289&CPID=8&channel=football_home

    So???? Chelsea played clearly on the counter-attack and allowed Liverpool to play more attacking... But most of the game was played just on the midfield!

    Only comment on games you've watched in future.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:34 am

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha., you are real funny HIM..... Wink
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    Post by L r d Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:35 am

    thanks. You're really pitiful Ale
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:35 am

    How bad was this game really?
    All I've heard is how much of a borefest it was, can't have been that bad *again* can it?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:36 am

    Next time I shall watch it with my scousers specs on.... ! I am sorry I watched it this time with a to neutral view...!
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    Post by L r d Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:37 am

    Tweedledum wrote:How bad was this game really?
    All I've heard is how much of a borefest it was, can't have been that bad *again* can it?

    It wasn't that bad at all.

    That's just the typical simpleton response for a Liverpool-Chelsea game these days.

    There were enough chances, plenty of incident and a wonder goal.

    Not great by anymeans, but more exciting than your average premiership match is these days.
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    Post by L r d Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:37 am

    ricardojol wrote:Next time I shall watch it with my scousers specs on.... ! I am sorry I watched it this time with a to neutral view...!

    Next time just watch the game full stop.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:38 am

    COTR wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:Alonso is the reason liverpool aren´t playing well his form is not good and he makes liverpool tick, without him they struggle hugely
    do you think we struggled yesterday frank????

    point taken about alonso but he wasn't really bad yesterday and you also have to take into consideration the fact chelsea play 4 centre midfielders... alonso has been bad this season but we are losing because one again we are missing simple simple chances and previously because the defence have been making poor mistakes... im not overly worried at the minute... was very happy with the performance yesterday
    poss alonso best game of the season so far but still short of last seasons form and he is a hugely important cog for you. i think rafa made erros tactically yesterday, for somebody renowned for tinkering with tactics a lot he didn´t get the right balance to counteract that 4 CM prob., imho it was an ideal match to start aurelio, prob little coming from the right deep in defence as bloula isn´t going to get as far forward as cole, but he is better going forward than warnock. he played pennant to try and keep ashley quiet but finnan wouldn´t have got 2 on 1 too often if gerrard had played RM and tucked in a touch, and he should have played LG as he has a good knack of getting goals v chelsea and could have got in makelele face a bit more drifting in from the left. i never saw the point of bellamy yesterday, chelsea tend to sit quite deep his pace was unlikely to be a huge factor i´d have gone for crouch and kuyt myself
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:39 am

    Tweedledum wrote:How bad was this game really?
    All I've heard is how much of a borefest it was, can't have been that bad *again* can it?

    I thought it was a decent game and Chelsea deserved the win.

    Yesterday just confirmed for me that Chelsea are still the team to catch and that Cech is the best keeper in the league by a strecth.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:40 am

    Tweedledum wrote:How bad was this game really?
    All I've heard is how much of a borefest it was, can't have been that bad *again* can it?

    I didn't think it was too bad. Some good chances, a great goal and the second half was quite exciting. It wasn't a classic but I've seen a lot worse games between the two teams in recent years.
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    Post by Cesc Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:41 am

    Parks Lives wrote:
    Tweedledum wrote:How bad was this game really?
    All I've heard is how much of a borefest it was, can't have been that bad *again* can it?
    Cech is the best keeper in the league by a strecth.
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