Chelsea v Liverpool

[quote="Obispo"]

ricardojol wrote:Next time I shall watch it with my scousers specs on.... ! I am sorry I watched it this time with a to neutral view...!

Cesc-Fab wrote:

Parks Lives wrote:

Tweedledum wrote:How bad was this game really?
All I've heard is how much of a borefest it was, can't have been that bad *again* can it?

Cech is the best keeper in the league by a strecth.

Lehmann?

Maybe he's as good as a shot-stopper. But as an overall keeper Cech is way better IMHO.

crouch came on too late.. ill give you that one... but i really don't see the point in criticising rafa when we were

a) the better team
b) created nearly all the chances in the game
c) only lost to a wonder goal and defended well for the whole of the game..

rafa can't be blamed for players missing sitters... don't want to be down on the team as i don't think anyone will play as well as that at stamford bridge all season in the league

Obispo wrote:

Cesc-Fab wrote:

Parks Lives wrote:

Tweedledum wrote:How bad was this game really?
All I've heard is how much of a borefest it was, can't have been that bad *again* can it?

Cech is the best keeper in the league by a strecth.

Lehmann?

Maybe he's as good as a shot-stopper. But as an overall keeper Cech is way better IMHO.

He's unflappable as well.

ricardojol wrote:

ricardojol wrote:Next time I shall watch it with my scousers specs on.... ! I am sorry I watched it this time with a to neutral view...!

So the problem wasn't that you didn't watch the game. It's just that you don't understand football?

Chelsea dominated possession first half little Ricky. Pray tell explain how that's "playing counter-attack football"?

Obispo wrote:

ricardojol wrote:

ricardojol wrote:Next time I shall watch it with my scousers specs on.... ! I am sorry I watched it this time with a to neutral view...!

So the problem wasn't that you didn't watch the game. It's just that you don't understand football?

Chelsea dominated possession first half little Ricky. Pray tell explain how that's "playing counter-attack football"?

O God are you on the Ricky is a fool mode again????

COTR wrote:rafa can't be blamed for players missing sitters...

gerrard should have defo scored ffs he was a few yards out and should have placed it not tried to hammer the ball through the net

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

COTR wrote:rafa can't be blamed for players missing sitters...

gerrard should have defo scored ffs he was a few yards out and should have placed it not tried to hammer the ball through the net

Do you want an intresting stat Frank? Of course you do.

Gerrard has had 12-13 (I can't remember exactly) shots on goal in the league this season...

Would you like to guess how many have been on target?















One. That shot against Cech where it would have been harder to hit the back of the net.

Whats happened to Gonzalez?

I thought he was going to take the league by storm?

Parks Lives wrote:Whats happened to Gonzalez?

I thought he was going to take the league by storm?

I think just about everyone said he'd need an adaption period, which he's clearly having. I hope he starts actually playing soon though. The kid is awesome.

COTR wrote:it's park shipshap.. what do you expect when liverpool are part of the topic...

drogba was the only chelsea playing that remotely impressed me in terms of actually wanting to play football and win the game on the chelsea team yesterday... they really were very poor both with 10 and 11 men... we only have ourselves to blame for missing all those sitters

seems odd...he was TERRIBLE!!!

liverpool could have easily won yesterday..on any normal day it would have ended at least 2 or 3-1 for liverpool...the ball just wouldnt go in....that happens sometimes...chelseas win definately didnt have anything to do with them...it was 100% down to liverpools problems in actually scoring

dont panic! wrote:

COTR wrote:it's park shipshap.. what do you expect when liverpool are part of the topic...

drogba was the only chelsea playing that remotely impressed me in terms of actually wanting to play football and win the game on the chelsea team yesterday... they really were very poor both with 10 and 11 men... we only have ourselves to blame for missing all those sitters

seems odd...he was TERRIBLE!!!

liverpool could have easily won yesterday..on any normal day it would have ended at least 2 or 3-1 for liverpool...the ball just wouldnt go in....that happens sometimes...chelseas win definately didnt have anything to do with them...it was 100% down to liverpools problems in actually scoring

You clearly didn't watch the game....
























Obispo will say

Not really... He didn't make any ridiculous claims like "chelsea just played counter-attack" when infact for half of the game they dominated possession and we were the ones playing counter-attack.

Obispo wrote:Not really... He didn't make any ridiculous claims like "chelsea just played counter-attack" when infact for half of the game they dominated possession and we were the ones playing counter-attack.

half +half = 1 isn't it...? so both played half counter attacking football! The game was mostly played at the midfield zone....

i think there was a stat at some stage where 80% of the play had been in the central area

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:i think there was a stat at some stage where 80% of the play had been in the central area

I never disagreed with that. I disagreed with Ricky acting like some spectre of knowledge acting as if Chelsea played counter-attack when they spent less of the game doing it than we did.

and now it is less.............. while in the first place you were talking about "half"....?

Am I getting crazy here or is this statement impossible....?

Please, COTR can you feed me again... I am hungry....

ricardojol wrote:and now it is less.............. while in the first place you were talking about "half"....?

Am I getting crazy here or is this statement impossible....?

Please, COTR can you feed me again... I am hungry....

ive just finished my breakfast ricardo... cannot beat a decent british fry can you

so who did you think were the better team yesterday???

hopefully this keeps you entertained for a little while while others talk about the actual game

@COTR

Ulster fry>>> Full English.

Cotr

I can't read that.... I need my pair of spectacles can you give it to me... I need THE REDS one... so I can talk with you guys at the same level....

ricardojol wrote:Cotr

I can't read that.... I need my pair of spectacles can you give it to me... I need THE REDS one... so I can talk with you guys at the same level....

sorry if this has been discussed already..would you say that IF gerrards or crouches chance would have gone in it would have been an undeserved draw or win?

No, I only said If Crouch would have started the game Liverpool would have won it! He needs to get rythm to score the goals and he would have make a Bellamy/Kuyt to play better!

Obispo has shown, Gerrard is missing time and time again so that is no surprise any more!

ricardojol wrote:No, I only said If Crouch would have started the game Liverpool would have won it! He needs to get rythm to score the goals and he would have make a Bellamy/Kuyt to play better!

Obispo has shown, Gerrard is missing time and time again so that is no surprise any more!

maybe...maybe not...he may have also got a red card after 2 minutes for stamping on ballack leaving liverpool with 10 men...who knows...

Maybe he would have been punched by José Mourinho at Half time after an hair pulling incident with Ricardo Carvalho....

ricardojol wrote:Maybe he would have been punched by José Mourinho at Half time after an hair pulling incident with Ricardo Carvalho....

also very likely...

Roger_Hunt wrote:Shots on target: Liverpool 6 Chelsea 3

Shots off target: Liverpool 6 Chelsea 3

http://msnsport.skysports.com/matchreport.aspx?fxid=302289&CPID=8&channel=football_home

At the time when Ballack was dismissed, it was

Shots on target: Liverpool 0 Chelsea 3
Shots off target: Liverpool 2 Chelsea 1

Possession: Liverpool 38% Chelsea 62%

COTR wrote:
so who did you think were the better team yesterday???

Of course you are going to end up being the better team, as you played 40 minutes with an extra man. Had Sissoko been sent off when he should've, we'd have played 45 minutes with an extra man and then dominated the match imo.

Up until the Ballack sending off, no side had really dominated, but we'd had more shots, and a lot more possession, and probably deserved to be 1-0 up. After we had been playing 25-30 minutes with a man short, it became all one way traffic, with the last 10 minutes, being the only period I believe you actually really dominated.

S4P wrote:

COTR wrote:
so who did you think were the better team yesterday???

Of course you are going to end up being the better team, as you played 40 minutes with an extra man. Had Sissoko been sent off when he should've, we'd have played 45 minutes with an extra man and then dominated the match imo.

Up until the Ballack sending off, no side had really dominated, but we'd had more shots, and a lot more possession, and probably deserved to be 1-0 up. After we had been playing 25-30 minutes with a man short, it became all one way traffic, with the last 10 minutes, being the only period I believe you actually really dominated.

my take on the first half was

-in the first 15 minutes we couldn't get the ball fo you but all you were doing was passing it about your back four with the odd hoof up to drogba...
- the only way you were going to score was from a set piece and these were no doubt where these shots of yours have come from.. you certianly didnt create much through any footballing moves
- my view on it (obviously biased but was what i thought anyway) was that after the first 15 minutes all the pressure was from us, we got into some great situations and created the two outstanding chances of the first half from kuyt and gerrard... kuyt missed a sitter.. i thought we were the more threatening team and also were conceding practically no opportunites at the back... then drogba produces his moment of magic out of nothing and it is 1-0.. nothing we could have done about this goal at all. so i don't think chelsea really merited the lead in any way based on the way you performed but obviously the goal was special.

as for sissoko's sending off. what did he get the first yellow for.. I missed this? lucky to escape the second but he did go for the ball and it was an honest challenge.. ref gave him the benefit of the doubt thankfully.. we deserve some decisions against chelsea in the league.. after the lampard push yesterday im begining to think it is impossible for us to get a penalty against chelsea even for the most stonewall decisions

Sissoko should of been sent off twice.

A red for his lunge at Makelele, a yellow for his tackle on Lampard and another yellow for kicking the ball away.

Sissoko got a first yellow for showing all his studs, going into a tackle with Makelele (this was about 2 minutes before the trip on Lampard incident)

Everyone will have their own opinion (and it'll always be biased), and although I don't think we "dominated", as we'd had a lot more possession (even if we weren't splitting you open or anything) and had also had more shots, all on target (maybe 1 off I think) whereas you'd failed to hit the target (unless you count the bar as being on target).

Although you'd had the best chance to score, I just think we'd done more and 1-0 was probably deserved imo.

After the Ballack sending off, as expected, you controlled the game, and I really thought you were going to get something out of it.