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    Post by bluenine Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:12 am

    Messiah wrote:Didn't see the game. so i can't say anything, but i guess we are out.
    I don't think you are out yet... you got an away goal, and Barca can win it 2-0 at home again...

    With Inter, anything can happen.... we haven't got a red card in the CL for a few games, perhaps we will get one now Sad
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:02 am

    Is it true Balotelli was attacked by fans in the car park?
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    Post by A & K Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:18 am

    Balotelli shouldn't have thrown his shirt on the floor, that is one of the worst things to do for your clubs and supporters. Kezman did this last year for P.S.G and supporters realy hated him after even more. Inter fans look quite harsh though, they should be pleased about their win against Barcelona. Congrats to Inter. The return game should be a cracking game since Barcelona can play amazingly well at home. They will have to score more than two goals so they will have to play offensively, so it's likely to be a great game.
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    Post by Jaime Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:38 am

    Fenomeno wrote:
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    stinger wrote:The right picture is from the situation when Eto'o got booked? Not the best picture around, he pushes Keita with his right hand there.

    Will As publish Milto's goal and foul on Pique pictures too? Wink


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    They've made the Milito goal picture look like it wasn't even offside.

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    Post by MightyBarca Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:01 am

    Got to say Inter were awesome. Really impressed by the way they played congrats to blue9 and bobo they deserved to win. But fellow barca fans dont be so negative we can still win it. Its 2 goals we need and if any team can score 2 goals or more against inter its us. Its going to be a cracker.
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:27 am

    Barcelona Defender Gerard Pique Calls For 'Impartial' Ref For Second Leg Against Inter
    Portuguese official got key decisions wrong...

    Barcelona defender Gerard Pique has called for an "impartial" referee for the second leg of their UEFA Champions League tie against Inter, claiming that Portuguese match official Olegario Benquerenca got crucial decisions wrong in the 3-1 defeat at the Giuseppe Meazza in Milan.

    "I have been seen it on TV and you can see that Milito's goal was offside and Maicon's came after a foul on [Lionel] Messi," Pique is quoted as saying by Sport.

    "We got nothing from the officials. The second leg has to have an impartial referee. Inter knew us very well, they dominated the game and they knew how to stop our game."

    Despite the defeat, Pique is confident the champions can turn the tie around at Camp Nou next week.

    "Everything is possible in the return leg, there's two goals [difference] but we can over come that," he explained.

    The aftermath of Barcelona's 3-1 defeat at the hands of Inter was never going to be pretty, but few would have expected just how harsh the closing moments of the tie would be.

    According to sources ranging from Al Jazeera to Sky Sport 24, Barcelona midfielder Xavi offered some choice thoughts in the tunnel in the direction of Inter coach Jose Mourinho.

    The fiery Catalan allegedly announced that Inter's victory was in part down to Portuguese referee Olegario Benquerenca who, of course, shares a nationality with Jose.

    It is alleged that Mourinho immediately shot back to Xavi by reminding him about Tom Henning Ovrebo, the Norwegian referee whose part in Barca's win over Chelsea in last season's Champions League semi-finals is still hotly debated.

    Mourinho attempted to play down this incident afterwards as, speaking to Sky Sport 24, he said, "People can say a lot of things, but these are just false emotions, and not real ones."



    Inter Coach Jose Mourinho: Barcelona Players Don't Know How To Accept Defeat
    Mourinho has taken a swipe at the Barcelona players, while praising his team for their efforts...

    Inter coach Jose Mourinho has dispensed a message of caution despite beating European Champions Barcelona 3-1 in the semi-final first-leg, hitting out at the Blaugrana players for moaning about Portuguese referee Olegario Benquerenca.

    Mourinho is well aware his side face a real hard slog at the Camp Nou, despite an advantage that seems comfortable.

    "We are not so near to the final as Barcelona at home is mes que un club. It will be very difficult," he told Rai Sport.

    Mourinho though feels his team could have done more to avoid conceding and he has hit out at the way several Barcelona players moaned about the referee inside the tunnel.

    "I am not so happy because of their goal, we made an error. But I want to say
    something about the Barcelona players, as they should be champions when
    they lose," he added.

    "They should say that Inter was stronger and that's it, instead in the tunnel they attacked the referee, but have they already forgotten [Tom Henning] Ovrebo last year? They don't have a good memory."

    Mario Balotelli made a rude gesture to the fans after they jeered him. And, once again, he has fallen on the wrong side of his coach.

    "Balotelli? I have been here since July 2009 and I had many criticisms levelled at me when I was trying to teach him how he should play and grow, and in the most important match of the year, he has done a very bad thing," he concluded.

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    Maicon vs Alves, I think it is safe to say that this debate is over. Biggrin

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    I hear Messi struggled. Whistle

    Edit: Kas, you should continue to write your long posts. I think they were just joking about it and even if they weren't it doesn't really matter anyway.
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    Post by Jaime Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:08 am

    Super Madrid wrote:Edit: Kas, you should continue to write your long posts. I think they were just joking about it and even if they weren't it doesn't really matter anyway.

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    Post by L r dd Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:19 am

    ut Mourinho said: "I don't think the referee influenced the result of the game.

    "I feel sorry the linesman gave offside to Milito when he was facing the goalkeeper in the first five minutes of the game as he was not offside.

    "It is really a pity they have such short memories - because one year ago my boys at Chelsea were crying and Barcelona's players were laughing with the referee.

    "You cannot compare that with the ref here as the ref here has not influenced the result.

    "But the referee at Stamford Bridge put Chelsea out of a final they deserved to play in and gave Barcelona the chance to win the final and everything else they won after that."
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    Post by fcb Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:12 am

    @Jaime/Super: no worries, I will. This board is my way to vent all my (numerous) thoughts/opinions on football, helps me get things off my chest and keeps me more calm in real life Smile

    @Super: was there ever a Maicon vs. Alves debate? I thought it was clearly accepted that even when both are in peak form (ie. Alves doesn't put in a performance like last night), Maicon is better thanks to his physical qualities.

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    I saw some clips of the Barça players surrounding the ref after the final whistle. Not a welcome sight...bad memories of Rijkaard complaining about the 6 extra seconds of injury time a few years ago in that game against Chelsea. Xavi also got into an argument with Mourinho in the tunnel.

    As I said immediately after the game - yes we did suffer from some poor decisions by him, but it doesn't change the fact that Inter were superior.

    Apparently Mourinho also made some kind of gesture to Guardiola during the match, but the article I read in Marca didn't go into details. Guardiola shrugged it off saying he "wasn't surprised". Anyone know what happened there? scratch

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    I must also point out that until yesterday I never hesitated to hide my hatred of Mourinho and the fact that I didn't really rate him as a top manager. I've changed my mind though. His Inter team beat one of the best Barça teams of all time fairly, without any negative tactics or excessive fouling...quite different to the manner of his Chelsea teams' successes against Barça Ale

    (I still feel his salary is excessive and disgraceful, symbolic of the financial excesses in football.)

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    A question: no team has ever won the CL back to back, but could Etoo become the first player to do so?

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    Post by bluenine Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:41 am

    That doesn't sound too serious, thank god.

    Inter Defender Maicon Loses Tooth Against Barcelona
    The right-back will be seeking a dentist...

    Inter right-back Maicon has lost a tooth this evening whilst in action against Barcelona in the first leg of the Champions League semi-final.

    The Brazilian received an accidental shoulder knock to the mouth by Blaugrana forward Lionel Messi, which saw him lose one of his teeth.

    The right-back was stretchered off the field, and will be requiring attention to his incisor tooth, according to Sportal.

    Maicon will now be on the lookout for a dentist in the coming days, in order to repair the damage done by the Argentinean.

    The Nerazzurri won the match 3-1, and the return leg will be played next Wednesday evening.
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    Post by Pras_tama Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:42 am

    TM wrote:Just realised Mourinho is still unbeaten at home...

    Rijkaard's Barca beaten Mou's Chelsea 2-1 in London sometime in 2006
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    Post by bluenine Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:51 am

    SLG wrote:
    TM wrote:Just realised Mourinho is still unbeaten at home...

    Rijkaard's Barca beaten Mou's Chelsea 2-1 in London sometime in 2006

    Mou is unbeaten at home in domestic leagues for about 7 years... in europe he has lost a few...
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:34 am

    Tarun wrote:Hard for me to say but Inter have been impressive in the game so far

    Same here, fully deserved win.

    Congrats Bluey, your team played well Ale
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    Post by bluenine Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:52 am

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Tarun wrote:Hard for me to say but Inter have been impressive in the game so far

    Same here, fully deserved win.

    Congrats Bluey, your team played well Ale
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    Post by abundance Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:24 pm

    kas wrote:A question: no team has ever won the CL back to back, but could Etoo become the first player to do so?

    Legend Ale
    uhmm, what about Desailly, Paulo Sousa, and Pique?




    btw, Grrrreat night yesterday.
    I regret not having had an internet connection at hand to follow the thread here. =D
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:53 pm

    Smart of Mourinho not to have the pitch sprayed before the match. Do not help the team better at playing a high pace passing game. Wenger (Arsenal) made sure the pitch was optimal (top notch & sprayed) for our game, unfortunately he forgot Barcelona was even more helped by it.
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    Post by fcb Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:57 pm

    Yeah thought someone would have done it before. Didn't really count Pique, he hardly featured for Man. utd. in the CL!
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    Post by fcb Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:58 pm

    De Guzman wrote:Smart of Mourinho not to have the pitch sprayed before the match. Do not help the team better at playing a high pace passing game. Wenger (Arsenal) made sure the pitch was optimal (top notch & sprayed) for our game, unfortunately he forgot Barcelona was even more helped by it.

    Interesting point, because Guardiola specifically said in his post match comments: "we will water the Camp Nou surface, because we want the ball to move fast"
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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:04 pm

    Not had time to read through the whole thread,

    but why is so little being made of Inter's frankly incredulous luck

    that Barcelona had to travel across half of Europe by coach?

    It's not the DEFINING reason for Barca's loss last night, Inter played well and took their opportunity,

    but only a fool would suggest it didn't have some impact on the game.

    Imagine if Inter had suffered the same fate - you wouldn't be able to shut Mourinho up about it.

    He'd be calling press conferences and blaming Iceland for

    deliberately attempting to sabotage his team's preparations.

    In no way was the lead up to this game balanced for both teams, and a slice of luck for Inter, to go alongside the offside goal.

    I'm not even a Barca supporter, but I'm going to do the moaning for them.

    At this rate Inter and Bayern wil surely make the final - both sides have had some outrageous fortune in the knock out stages so far. It looks destined
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:23 pm

    kas wrote:@Jaime/Super: no worries, I will. This board is my way to vent all my (numerous) thoughts/opinions on football, helps me get things off my chest and keeps me more calm in real life Smile

    @Super: was there ever a Maicon vs. Alves debate? I thought it was clearly accepted that even when both are in peak form (ie. Alves doesn't put in a performance like last night), Maicon is better thanks to his physical qualities.

    -----------------

    I saw some clips of the Barça players surrounding the ref after the final whistle. Not a welcome sight...bad memories of Rijkaard complaining about the 6 extra seconds of injury time a few years ago in that game against Chelsea. Xavi also got into an argument with Mourinho in the tunnel.

    As I said immediately after the game - yes we did suffer from some poor decisions by him, but it doesn't change the fact that Inter were superior.

    Apparently Mourinho also made some kind of gesture to Guardiola during the match, but the article I read in Marca didn't go into details. Guardiola shrugged it off saying he "wasn't surprised". Anyone know what happened there? scratch

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    I must also point out that until yesterday I never hesitated to hide my hatred of Mourinho and the fact that I didn't really rate him as a top manager. I've changed my mind though. His Inter team beat one of the best Barça teams of all time fairly, without any negative tactics or excessive fouling...quite different to the manner of his Chelsea teams' successes against Barça Ale

    (I still feel his salary is excessive and disgraceful, symbolic of the financial excesses in football.)

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    There certainly was a debate about Maicon vs Alves. Those of us that followed La Liga thought Alves was better while the Serie A fans prefered Maicon. I don't think it is simply physical qualities though. Alves at Sevilla and at times for Barca was a superb crosser but I don't know what has happened to be honest. In top games in Cl he has been very disapointing imo. After last seasons cl games and now this years games I don't think it is a contest anymore. But the Alves of Sevilla was better or at least more influential.

    I wonder how much of the debate afterwards was down to Mourinho. He does ignite something in Barcelona.

    Interesting about the Guardiola vs Mourinho comment but I haven't read about it anywhere.

    Did Matarazzi really punch Balotelli? Laugh
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm

    now that i have seen the replay, i must say the milito goal was a mile offside, which is think is huge, because at 2-1, we stood a chance, now its all over.

    the goal after the "foul" on messi, i'm not too upset about, that happen almost at the edge of their area, and they were allow to get the ball down to the other end and score, poor marking and closing down, which i think is a direct result of the long bus trip to italy, the players looked jaded as the game went on. Freaking Uefa.

    But if this were any other team i would be pissed, but inter i have nothing against so i'm godo with them winning the CL.
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    Post by Jaime Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:26 pm

    kas wrote:Apparently Mourinho also made some kind of gesture to Guardiola during the match, but the article I read in Marca didn't go into details. Guardiola shrugged it off saying he "wasn't surprised". Anyone know what happened there? scratch

    From what I read Mourinho made the 'are you crazy' gesture pointing his finger to his head. He said it was towards some of the Barcleona players on the bench (maybe for disputing a decision from the referee?) not Guardiola.
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    Post by fcb Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:30 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    kas wrote:Apparently Mourinho also made some kind of gesture to Guardiola during the match, but the article I read in Marca didn't go into details. Guardiola shrugged it off saying he "wasn't surprised". Anyone know what happened there? scratch

    From what I read Mourinho made the 'are you crazy' gesture pointing his finger to his head. He said it was towards some of the Barcleona players on the bench (maybe for disputing a decision from the referee?) not Guardiola.

    Eh, sounds like no big deal. Maybe that's why Pep didn't comment on it. Apparently Mourinho didn't bother shaking hands either after the game. Judging by all the fallout from this game it seems now impossible that he'll ever become Barça manager, no matter how bad our sporting situation may become in the future. Marca and AS are of course loving it.
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    Post by fcb Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:31 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:
    kas wrote:@Jaime/Super: no worries, I will. This board is my way to vent all my (numerous) thoughts/opinions on football, helps me get things off my chest and keeps me more calm in real life Smile

    @Super: was there ever a Maicon vs. Alves debate? I thought it was clearly accepted that even when both are in peak form (ie. Alves doesn't put in a performance like last night), Maicon is better thanks to his physical qualities.

    -----------------

    I saw some clips of the Barça players surrounding the ref after the final whistle. Not a welcome sight...bad memories of Rijkaard complaining about the 6 extra seconds of injury time a few years ago in that game against Chelsea. Xavi also got into an argument with Mourinho in the tunnel.

    As I said immediately after the game - yes we did suffer from some poor decisions by him, but it doesn't change the fact that Inter were superior.

    Apparently Mourinho also made some kind of gesture to Guardiola during the match, but the article I read in Marca didn't go into details. Guardiola shrugged it off saying he "wasn't surprised". Anyone know what happened there? scratch

    -----------------

    I must also point out that until yesterday I never hesitated to hide my hatred of Mourinho and the fact that I didn't really rate him as a top manager. I've changed my mind though. His Inter team beat one of the best Barça teams of all time fairly, without any negative tactics or excessive fouling...quite different to the manner of his Chelsea teams' successes against Barça Ale

    (I still feel his salary is excessive and disgraceful, symbolic of the financial excesses in football.)

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    There certainly was a debate about Maicon vs Alves. Those of us that followed La Liga thought Alves was better while the Serie A fans prefered Maicon. I don't think it is simply physical qualities though. Alves at Sevilla and at times for Barca was a superb crosser but I don't know what has happened to be honest. In top games in Cl he has been very disapointing imo. After last seasons cl games and now this years games I don't think it is a contest anymore. But the Alves of Sevilla was better or at least more influential.

    Easy explanations:

    1. It's much easier to be a good crosser when your targets are tall CFs who are not only good headers of the ball, but also make themselves always available in the penalty box. Kanoute/Luis Fabiano vs. Messi/Ibra/Etoo/Henry says it all.

    2. Of course he would look better at Sevilla, because at Barça there are more talented teammates that overshadow his own talent. Whereas at Sevilla there isn't the same level of players so Alves stands out more.
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    Post by Jaime Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:34 pm

    Messiah wrote:now that i have seen the replay, i must say the milito goal was a mile offside, which is think is huge, because at 2-1, we stood a chance, now its all over.

    the goal after the "foul" on messi, i'm not too upset about, that happen almost at the edge of their area, and they were allow to get the ball down to the other end and score, poor marking and closing down, which i think is a direct result of the long bus trip to italy, the players looked jaded as the game went on. Freaking Uefa.

    But if this were any other team i would be pissed, but inter i have nothing against so i'm godo with them winning the CL.

    Yeah but if you point to this you have to take into consider in the first half when Milito was ruled offside incorrectly when he would have gone in alone on Valdes. That could have made it 1-0 early in the game and also changed things signficantly.
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    Post by Jaime Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:37 pm

    Re: Dani Alves

    I don't think you can blame 'short' targets on Barcelona vs 'tall' targets at Sevilla because most of the time his crossings go nowhere near anybody. I mean you would need Zigic standing on the shoulders of Crouch to reach some of the balls he sends in.

    Also something strange - has he scored a single goal from a free kick since joining Barcelona. I know he has to share them with Messi and Xavi now but I can't remember one goal from a direct free kick.
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:38 pm

    kas wrote:
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    kas wrote:@Jaime/Super: no worries, I will. This board is my way to vent all my (numerous) thoughts/opinions on football, helps me get things off my chest and keeps me more calm in real life Smile

    @Super: was there ever a Maicon vs. Alves debate? I thought it was clearly accepted that even when both are in peak form (ie. Alves doesn't put in a performance like last night), Maicon is better thanks to his physical qualities.

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    I saw some clips of the Barça players surrounding the ref after the final whistle. Not a welcome sight...bad memories of Rijkaard complaining about the 6 extra seconds of injury time a few years ago in that game against Chelsea. Xavi also got into an argument with Mourinho in the tunnel.

    As I said immediately after the game - yes we did suffer from some poor decisions by him, but it doesn't change the fact that Inter were superior.

    Apparently Mourinho also made some kind of gesture to Guardiola during the match, but the article I read in Marca didn't go into details. Guardiola shrugged it off saying he "wasn't surprised". Anyone know what happened there? scratch

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    I must also point out that until yesterday I never hesitated to hide my hatred of Mourinho and the fact that I didn't really rate him as a top manager. I've changed my mind though. His Inter team beat one of the best Barça teams of all time fairly, without any negative tactics or excessive fouling...quite different to the manner of his Chelsea teams' successes against Barça Ale

    (I still feel his salary is excessive and disgraceful, symbolic of the financial excesses in football.)

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    A question: no team has ever won the CL back to back, but could Etoo become the first player to do so?

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    There certainly was a debate about Maicon vs Alves. Those of us that followed La Liga thought Alves was better while the Serie A fans prefered Maicon. I don't think it is simply physical qualities though. Alves at Sevilla and at times for Barca was a superb crosser but I don't know what has happened to be honest. In top games in Cl he has been very disapointing imo. After last seasons cl games and now this years games I don't think it is a contest anymore. But the Alves of Sevilla was better or at least more influential.

    Easy explanations:

    1. It's much easier to be a good crosser when your targets are tall CFs who are not only good headers of the ball, but also make themselves always available in the penalty box. Kanoute/Luis Fabiano vs. Messi/Ibra/Etoo/Henry says it all.

    2. Of course he would look better at Sevilla, because at Barça there are more talented teammates that overshadow his own talent. Whereas at Sevilla there isn't the same level of players so Alves stands out more.
    I know and that was one of the reason I argued at the time that Barcelona won't get the Alves of Sevilla who was basically a playmaker for them and their system was perfect for him which isn't the case at Barcelona. But even accounting the players he can aim at I still think his crossing has been poor in big games and I don't think it is simply because of the reasons mentioned.
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    Post by fcb Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:43 pm

    @Jaime: I think he scored one recently.
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    Post by stinger Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:20 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    Messiah wrote:now that i have seen the replay, i must say the milito goal was a mile offside, which is think is huge, because at 2-1, we stood a chance, now its all over.

    the goal after the "foul" on messi, i'm not too upset about, that happen almost at the edge of their area, and they were allow to get the ball down to the other end and score, poor marking and closing down, which i think is a direct result of the long bus trip to italy, the players looked jaded as the game went on. Freaking Uefa.

    But if this were any other team i would be pissed, but inter i have nothing against so i'm godo with them winning the CL.

    Yeah but if you point to this you have to take into consider in the first half when Milito was ruled offside incorrectly when he would have gone in alone on Valdes. That could have made it 1-0 early in the game and also changed things signficantly.
    It's not the same situation, especially if you would consider recent Milito effectiveness with converting sitters and 1 on 1 situations.

    Agree that Alves crossing usually sucks regarding any decent competition.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:29 pm

    The ref last night lol!

    I went into this game kind of in favour of Inter winning but after last night I've changed my mind (I bascially forgot how much I detest Italian teams). Come on Barca in the 2nd leg!

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