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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:11 pm

    RQ7 will definitely play. This is what he was bought for - Mourinho has been saving him for this game.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:58 pm

    Maicon:
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    Post by Murray Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:12 pm

    MIDGET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.football-italia.net/apr25n.html
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:42 pm

    Yes, corriere also reporting it. Boban said the injury usually takes 3-4 days to recover from. Maybe the Barca game will be too soon for him.

    I hope Mourinho doesn't change formation or go ultra defensive. Shift Pandev into Sneijder's position, let Quaresma play on the left. Sorted.
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    Post by fcb Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:50 pm

    Yeah, nice try Jose Rolling Eyes

    Like me, the Barça press isn't convinced.
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    Post by Puro Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:54 am

    The whole Barcelona nation shall be behind their team like few times before in their illustrious history. The comeback is on. I'd play Yaya Toure instead of Busquets to add much needed stability in midfield.

    --------------------------------Valdés------------------------------------

    Alves-------------Piqué--------------------Milito----------------Abidal

    Xavi----------------------Yaya Touré----------------Keita

    Messi---------------------Ibrahimovic----------------Pedro

    We are about to witness a historic moment in CL history. It will be one of those matches that will be remembered for decades.

    The Camp Nou, the cathedral of countless great Barcelona victories, if its capacity were to be 1 million spectators, it'd be full to the rafters on Wednesday.

    The comeback begins, the champions of everything have a date with destiny, and they won't walk alone though they walk through the valley of shadow of death, they will fear no evil, for Barcelona are with them.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:20 am

    A bit too dramatic, but a fun read:
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/ead01cae-4f03-11df-b8f4-00144feab49a.html
    How Barcelona spawned Mourinho as its nemesis
    By Simon Kuper

    Published: April 23 2010 22:09 | Last updated: April 23 2010 22:09

    In 1996, José Mourinho suddenly became a powerful man. Aged only 33, the unknown Portuguese had come to Barcelona chiefly to translate for the English manager Bobby Robson. However, he fast turned into more than a translator. Mourinho took a duplex in the beach town of Sitges, near Robson’s house, and often talked football with him over dinner, recounts Mourinho’s biographer Patrick Barclay. He wrote dazzling scouting reports, and had one great advantage over his boss: he spoke Spanish. When Robson talked to players or the press, Mourinho interpreted. Many felt he added thoughts of his own.

    Barcelona gave Mourinho’s coaching career a lift-off. And yet, when football’s most successful coach returns to town with Inter Milan for Wednesday’s second leg of the Champions League semi-final, he does not come as an old friend. To the contrary: Mourinho is the “anti-Barcelona”, the man who stands for everything that Barça is not – and helps to define the club’s identity.

    When he worked at Barcelona few locals had heard of him. Even the club’s president knew him only as “El Traductor”, the translator. Only Barcelona’s coaches and players understood his importance. Mourinho charmed the then captain, Pep Guardiola, and persuaded everyone that he knew football. He was even allowed to coach the team in some friendlies. Barça was arguably the first side he ever managed.

    In 2000 he drove out of Sitges almost unnoticed to coach in Portugal. Four years later, Barça fans watching Porto win the Champions League noticed a vaguely familiar face on their television screens: “El Traductor” had become champion of Europe. They also noticed that he had rejected Barcelona’s etiquette. Barça’s motto is “more than a club”: everyone is expected to be subservient to it. But at the press conference after Porto’s victory, Mourinho talked mainly about himself. He seemed to consider himself “more than a club”. Whereas Barcelona prizes elegant humility, Mourinho is shouty.

    As a tactician, too, he was the anti-Barcelona. The club’s creed is beautiful football. Mourinho’s was, “It’s not important how we play.” His genius lay in finding and exploiting his opponent’s flaws. As he said: “If you have a Ferrari and I have a small car, to beat you in a race I have to break your wheel or put sugar in your tank.”

    When he returned to Barcelona as coach of Chelsea in 2005, he proclaimed that he had already won as many European cups as Barcelona in its history. To show how well he knew Barcelona’s Ferrari, the day before the match he announced Barça’s line-up. He beat Barcelona – chiefly because he had spotted that its then left-back Gio van Bronckhorst couldn’t tackle – and enraged the city. Sociologists like to say that groups define themselves by contrast to some imaginary “other”. For Barcelona, Mourinho had become the “other”.

    When Chelsea visited again in 2006, Barcelona fans pounded on the team bus and jeered, “Traductor!” As in all dysfunctional relationships, Mourinho and Barcelona know just how to hurt each other: he regularly beats Barça, and Barça pretends not to respect him. In truth the club fears Mourinho. In 2008 two club officials visited him in Portugal to canvass him about becoming head coach. But Barça finally decided he wasn’t the right man. Instead it appointed his old friend Guardiola.

    Before their two teams met for the first leg of the Champions League semi-final in Milan last week, Mourinho put more sugar in Barça’s tank. Inter midfielder Wesley Sneijder says: “His team talk lasted over two hours, spread across two days. He emphasised Barcelona’s strong points, and wanted us to use those to knock them out.” Inter clogged central defence, frustrating Barcelona, and won 3-1.

    For decades Real Madrid functioned as Barcelona’s imaginary “other”. Now one little man has usurped Real’s role. On Wednesday, Mourinho should take those cries of “Traductor!” as a covert tribute.
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    Post by Puro Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:51 am

    I respect Simon Kuper's view, but I definitely see it the other way around. Here's how: Barcelona are the one that Mourinho can't beat.

    Jose has gotten KO by Barcelona everytime. Well he got away with murder one time with that Collina gift, Jose and Chelsea were eliminated, but were given a freebie on that ocassion by Collina.

    Karma is a bitch, and he got immediately paid back against Liverpool with a goal that never was just like that goal that never should've counted against Barcelona. Poetic justice, divine justice.

    Barcelona actually go on to win the whole thing when up against Mourinho.

    On Wednesday, it shall be more of the same, sure Mourinho wins a battle here and there against Barcelona, but the Catalans win the war, and are probably a step too high for Mourinho.
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    Post by fcb Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:18 am

    Stop rating Barça's chances so highly Puro...you've surely jinxed us Sad
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    Post by Kroos Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:24 am

    hmm can`t decide which team would be more suited for bayern if we reach the final, but when i think on the 5years ranking i hope inter fails

    normally i would prefer inter, we have a good record against them, and the 4:0 from last year brings some fear into bayern hearts, but we know barca is not the same level right now and bayern has become better too
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:12 am

    de bleckere is the ref for this one

    he is the same guy who sent off Materazzi at Anfield.
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    Post by fcb Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:16 am

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:de bleckere is the ref for this one

    he is the same guy who sent off Materazzi at Anfield.

    ok

    Wouldn't hurt to swing the balance back a bit, because Inter escaped with a lot of sneaky off-the-ball antics in the 1st leg. And over 95,000 whistling fans can have quite an influence Very Happy
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    Post by abundance Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:49 am

    this is cute
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    (better not get into "history repeating" extrapolations because it would be sad for both our teams)


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    Post by bluenine Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:49 am

    Alberto wrote:I respect Simon Kuper's view, but I definitely see it the other way around. Here's how: Barcelona are the one that Mourinho can't beat.

    Jose has gotten KO by Barcelona everytime. Well he got away with murder one time with that Collina gift, Jose and Chelsea were eliminated, but were given a freebie on that ocassion by Collina.

    Karma is a bitch, and he got immediately paid back against Liverpool with a goal that never was just like that goal that never should've counted against Barcelona. Poetic justice, divine justice.

    Barcelona actually go on to win the whole thing when up against Mourinho.

    On Wednesday, it shall be more of the same, sure Mourinho wins a battle here and there against Barcelona, but the Catalans win the war, and are probably a step too high for Mourinho.
    Ah, so Alberto =Puro!

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    Post by Puro Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:37 pm

    kas wrote:Stop rating Barça's chances so highly Puro...you've surely jinxed us Sad

    I thought I'd let you all know my name is Alberto.
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    Post by Barrilete Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:14 pm

    Do they call you Beto?
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    Post by S4P Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:30 pm

    Alberto wrote:I respect Simon Kuper's view, but I definitely see it the other way around. Here's how: Barcelona are the one that Mourinho can't beat.

    Jose has gotten KO by Barcelona everytime. Well he got away with murder one time with that Collina gift, Jose and Chelsea were eliminated, but were given a freebie on that ocassion by Collina.

    Karma is a bitch, and he got immediately paid back against Liverpool with a goal that never was just like that goal that never should've counted against Barcelona. Poetic justice, divine justice.

    Barcelona actually go on to win the whole thing when up against Mourinho.

    On Wednesday, it shall be more of the same, sure Mourinho wins a battle here and there against Barcelona, but the Catalans win the war, and are probably a step too high for Mourinho.

    You and I have a different definition of "everytime" puro. If we are counting group stage matches, it's 2-2 between Mourinho and Barca. I think Barcelona will emerge victorious, but that only makes 3-2, not 5-0 puro. Think about it Ale
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    Post by abundance Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:04 pm

    yeah. they are so heavenly perfectly even, and tomorrow's match will
    decide who take the lead.
    in total: 9 matches, 3W, 3D, 3L.
    in group stages: 1W, 2D, 1L; one 1st and one 2nd placement each.
    in ko stages: 2W, 1D, 2L; one ko each.
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    Post by abundance Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:12 pm

    anyway, really nobody knows what that photo is about? rabbit


    abundance wrote:this is cute
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    (better not get into "history repeating" extrapolations because it would be sad for both our teams)
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:53 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:RQ7 will definitely play. This is what he was bought for - Mourinho has been saving him for this game.
    Has hell frozen there is no way Mourinho will trust RQ in a 3rd round Coppa Italia match let alone a UCL Semi-Final.(Bobo don't be silly)
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    Post by Puro Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:58 pm

    Barrilete wrote:Do they call you Beto?

    No, I used to be called "verdugo".
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:17 pm

    EM La Liga wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:RQ7 will definitely play. This is what he was bought for - Mourinho has been saving him for this game.
    Has hell frozen there is no way Mourinho will trust RQ in a 3rd round Coppa Italia match let alone a UCL Semi-Final.(Bobo don't be silly)

    He has no option (unless Sneijder recovers). Mourinho knows he has to stick to the 4-2-1-3 formation, this what brought them their CL success this season. Pandev is the only one who can play number 10 in Sneijder and Stankovic's absence. There RQ will take the vacant left wing spot since Balotelli will not be used.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:22 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
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    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:RQ7 will definitely play. This is what he was bought for - Mourinho has been saving him for this game.
    Has hell frozen there is no way Mourinho will trust RQ in a 3rd round Coppa Italia match let alone a UCL Semi-Final.(Bobo don't be silly)

    He has no option (unless Sneijder recovers). Mourinho knows he has to stick to the 4-2-1-3 formation, this what brought them their CL success this season. Pandev is the only one who can play number 10 in Sneijder and Stankovic's absence. There RQ will take the vacant left wing spot since Balotelli will not be used.
    He will play someone like Muntari or even play Zanetti on the left.

    There is no way Quaresma is starting this game.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:44 pm

    Muntari and Zanetti can't play in that position!
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    Post by Murray Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:10 pm

    Maybe the Midget injury is fake. It could easily be a classic Mourinho wind up and he makes a miraculous 'recovery' at the last minute.
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    Post by fcb Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:13 pm

    Murray wrote:Maybe the Midget injury is fake. It could easily be is a classic Mourinho wind up and he will makes a miraculous 'recovery' at the last minute.

    But I can gladly report that none of the Barça fans or press are falling for it.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:42 pm

    I wouldn't be so sure kas. See the last time Inter visited the Nou Camp.

    The reports regarding Sneijder are conflicting. Some papers saying he'll play, some say he has a 60% chance, some have him quoted as saying he can't play.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:53 pm

    Murray wrote:Maybe the Midget injury is fake. It could easily be a classic Mourinho wind up and he makes a miraculous 'recovery' at the last minute.

    Maybe the injury reports are exaggerated (I hope they are)... maybe he will be fit in time. But it is not fake, some people outside Italy (specially Kas & some english "pundits" Internazionale vs Barcelona - Page 19 Icon_razz) seem to think of Mou as a demi-God, but he isn't. He probably has no control over the press reports on Sneijder's injury what-so-ever, specially coz he is maintaining a press silence.
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    Post by TITO Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:15 pm

    Perhaps Wenger has the right percentage of Sneijder playing. I wont go more than 68 %.
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    Post by fcb Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:55 am

    Well ok, I was joking around a bit with Murray's post above.

    I don't think the injury is fake, but I most certainly doubt the "he is doubtful for the Barça game" predictions from Inter.

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